Alderaan Crumbs 441 Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) In the spirit of having fun, what are your pointless gripes with the Star Wars line? Nothing mean or spiteful, just little things that bug you in funny ways. For me it's: That the Smuggler career isn't called "Scoundrel". A pilot, thief and smuggler could be scoundrels, but not every smuggler is a pilot, thief or scoundrel. Until you can send blaster bolts back to the shooter, you're DEflecting. Call it such until you get REflect. The RAW need to be changed insisting that you get no benefit from the "Utinni!" Talent unless you actually shout it before use. The last one is a joke. Sort of. Edited August 26, 2015 by Alderaan Crumbs 6 Grayfax, Lorne, Sturn and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jereru 171 Posted August 26, 2015 I shout "Utinni!" in a high pitched voice everytime I read it (yes, now too). 2 DarthGM and EldritchFire reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pac_Man3D 445 Posted August 26, 2015 I look at the spines of the three core rulebooks together on my shelf, and I wonder if F&D should actually be an eggshell blue. 5 The Northman, RLogue177, diversionArchitect and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alderaan Crumbs 441 Posted August 26, 2015 That's very patriotic, sir! I'd have to put them out of order if F&D was blue and I can't have that. 1 Pac_Man3D reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorne 2,021 Posted August 26, 2015 Until you can send blaster bolts back to the shooter, you're DEflecting. Call it such until you get REflect. It still puzzles me to this day why they didn't give the parry, riposte, deflect and reflect talents their standard cromulent names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jereru 171 Posted August 26, 2015 I think calling it Parry, Improved Parry and Supreme Parry (à la D&D3) leaves clear that they are linked talents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pac_Man3D 445 Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) That's very patriotic, sir! I'd have to put them out of order if F&D was blue and I can't have that. Eggshell would be the wrong blue. Union Jack blue has a bit more gravitas about it. It's the chromatic equivalent of Judi Dench's resting face. Maybe a nice teal for F&D instead. Edited August 26, 2015 by Pac_Man3D 2 Richardbuxton and knasserII reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgookin 771 Posted August 26, 2015 In general, the terminology sucks. I have had this problem since Edge came out. A lot of talents are well balanced, but the name doesn't accurately reflect what they do. My worst problem is probably the force talent Sense Danger, which removes 2 blacks from a roll 1x per session. A great talent, but not what I would call Sensing Danger. 1 verdantsf reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Split Light 672 Posted August 26, 2015 I've got to second the Scoundrel/Smuggler thing. That one has been a minor peeve since day one. 4 Grayfax, Jedi Ronin, Lorne and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jegergryte 1,978 Posted August 26, 2015 I think they went all wrong when they made careers and specs... it should've been class-less. 1 gentlemanscoundrel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbird888 4,110 Posted August 26, 2015 All those new weapons and vehicles without illustrations, especially if they don't have one from Legends? Call me annoyed. Calling Careers "Archeotypes" would fit with what they actually have in mind much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pac_Man3D 445 Posted August 26, 2015 Jedi not being a career in EotE... (dives behind the sofa, giggling maniacally) 3 Jedi Ronin, Alderaan Crumbs and Jegergryte reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlemanscoundrel 152 Posted August 26, 2015 I think they went all wrong when they made careers and specs... it should've been class-less. SECOND! Though, I like the specs. Also, where is my instinctive astrogation (sense)? How do you expect me to "lawl! GG!" out of space combat, or sneak on board a cap ship and make everyone have heart attacks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whafrog 10,384 Posted August 26, 2015 I think they went all wrong when they made careers and specs... it should've been class-less. You can still do that, just don't charge any XP for a new spec. Of course, you need some mechanism to keep people from diving into all the specs and taking all the cheap stuff... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pac_Man3D 445 Posted August 26, 2015 None of the books include the Quixotic Jedi or Brash Pilot specialisations. 3 gentlemanscoundrel, DarthGM and Jegergryte reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jegergryte 1,978 Posted August 26, 2015 I think they went all wrong when they made careers and specs... it should've been class-less. You can still do that, just don't charge any XP for a new spec. Of course, you need some mechanism to keep people from diving into all the specs and taking all the cheap stuff... Now you're just being a smartass giving me a suggestion and everything... Not. What. I. Wanted. I don't want to solve it, I want them to redesign the whole game, because that makes the most sense to make the game as I want it, which is of course obviously how it should be, because you know, because I say so. Oh and I designed at least three different modern day rpgs when I was 10 and have been playing rpgs since I was 8 so I am a heavy weight with so much experience that no one can think of anything I haven't already thought about and improved upon, so I know what I'm talking about. that goes without saying. 5 Brucewayne, whafrog, Pac_Man3D and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jegergryte 1,978 Posted August 26, 2015 Actually, I'll second the OP, the smuggler-scoundrel thing. And I wish they'd designed the system and combat to make checks less static, using some sort of opposed check instead. I mean, it works perfectly well as is, but imagine the system designed around something like that... that could've been nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorne 2,021 Posted August 26, 2015 None of the books include the Quixotic Jedi or Brash Pilot specialisations. Well, at least you can be a Sarlacc Enforcer in the new Bounty Hunter splatbook! 1 DarthGM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pac_Man3D 445 Posted August 26, 2015 None of the books include the Quixotic Jedi or Brash Pilot specialisations. Well, at least you can be a Sarlacc Enforcer in the new Bounty Hunter splatbook! That sounds like a lonely and tedious job. And I'm pretty sure the Sarlacc can fight its own battles. Also, which Sarlacc? The one with the beak or the one without? I suppose babysitting the one with the beak would be marginally more entertaining. You could pretend to have conversations with it, like a kind of desert-dwelling Audrey II. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gentlemanscoundrel 152 Posted August 26, 2015 None of the books include the Quixotic Jedi or Brash Pilot specialisations. Well, at least you can be a Sarlacc Enforcer in the new Bounty Hunter splatbook! That sounds like a lonely and tedious job. And I'm pretty sure the Sarlacc can fight its own battles. Also, which Sarlacc? The one with the beak or the one without? I suppose babysitting the one with the beak would be marginally more entertaining. You could pretend to have conversations with it, like a kind of desert-dwelling Audrey II. See, when I read that, I was thinking Sarlacc was going to be a new playable race. Downside, not a lot of free range in the adventures. Upside, no door to door salesmen at your homestead! 1 Jegergryte reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi Ronin 1,588 Posted August 26, 2015 I look at the spines of the three core rulebooks together on my shelf, and I wonder if F&D should actually be an eggshell blue. I noticed the other day looking at my shelf with the 3 cores next to each other that the F&D spine - with the perfect shade of yellow on black - looks like the beginning of an opening crawl for a SW movie. 2 bsmith23 and Pac_Man3D reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyDaze 10,108 Posted August 26, 2015 My only consistent issue is the personal/planetary scale interface. This is one area where I still strongly prefer the rules from WEG's 2eR&E. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Split Light 672 Posted August 26, 2015 I did think of something, and then somebody beat me to it, but I'll repeat it anyway because I'm notihing if not redundant. Lack of pictures for some ships. I don't even need a full color shot, just a line drawing akin to what they do in the weapons section would be nice. 2 kaosoe and Jedi Ronin reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alderaan Crumbs 441 Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) I think they went all wrong when they made careers and specs... it should've been class-less. You can still do that, just don't charge any XP for a new spec. Of course, you need some mechanism to keep people from diving into all the specs and taking all the cheap stuff... Now you're just being a smartass giving me a suggestion and everything... Not. What. I. Wanted. I don't want to solve it, I want them to redesign the whole game, because that makes the most sense to make the game as I want it, which is of course obviously how it should be, because you know, because I say so. Oh and I designed at least three different modern day rpgs when I was 10 and have been playing rpgs since I was 8 so I am a heavy weight with so much experience that no one can think of anything I haven't already thought about and improved upon, so I know what I'm talking about. that goes without saying.I see what you did there. At first glance I thought, "Crap...classes...again...". After diving in the way they've designed it struck me as a good idea, not just for game balance but that it gives a little nudge towards a character's theme. Some players want/need such things and I find the "classless class system" a good way to appeal to both kinds of players. Edited August 26, 2015 by Alderaan Crumbs 1 Pac_Man3D reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alderaan Crumbs 441 Posted August 26, 2015 I did think of something, and then somebody beat me to it, but I'll repeat it anyway because I'm notihing if not redundant. Lack of pictures for some ships. I don't even need a full color shot, just a line drawing akin to what they do in the weapons section would be nice. I think it'd bug me more if I couldn't Google pretty much anything Star Wars. YT-2400 deck plans? Check. Nal Hutta landscapes? Got it. Ewok thongs? Thankfully not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites