Form VII

[Kael 1,865]

Do you think they'll ever do a specialization tree for Form VII? I know hoping for Vapaad is a bit of a stretch but Form VII maybe?

[Lorne 2,021]

Probably when they get to the Warrior book.

[Decorus 672]

I'm not sure why anyone would want Juyo its not exactly a style you want unless your playing a dark side character.

Even then its an offensive style with very little in terms of defense.

[awayputurwpn 7,720]

I'm not sure why anyone would want Juyo its not exactly a style you want unless your playing a dark side character.

Even then its an offensive style with very little in terms of defense.

Is it just me, or did you answer your own question?

If not, I've got two words for you: Darth Maul.

[Ghostofman 8,319]

I don't think hoping for Vapaad is a stretch, it may not be exactly what you expect, but a saber tree called something like "Vapaad Assaulter" is certainly plausable.

 

 

I'm not sure why anyone would want Juyo its not exactly a style you want unless your playing a dark side character.

Even then its an offensive style with very little in terms of defense.

Remember how this system works chummer. All that means is there's a possibility the tree will have a talent or two that give Conflict... not the end of the world for someone with Paragon aspirations, and almost trivial to someone who merely doesn't wan to be dark.

Edited August 10, 2015 by Ghostofman

[Kael 1,865]

I'm not sure why anyone would want Juyo its not exactly a style you want unless your playing a dark side character.

Even then its an offensive style with very little in terms of defense.

 

There were lightsiders who used the form. Plus Vapaad was an off shoot of Juyo. There's also the fact that not everyone plays a lightsider. The rules are such that a person can opt to go more dark than light and it be perfectly ok. 

 

Finally, completeness. The other 6 forms have mechanics thus why not the last? 

 

It's about options. If Juyo isn't your thing I don't see how it hurts you or the game by offering it to players who are interested in it. It will take up all of one page in whatever book it ended up in. 

[Daeglan 5,950]

Juyo would likely be in the warrior spec. And Vaapad would likely be a signature ability...while likely not calling it that. 

[DarthGM 2,337]

Juyo and Vaapad could have talents with that new "auto-Conflit" notation...

Edited August 10, 2015 by DarthGM

[Kael 1,865]

Juyo and Vaapad could have talents with that new "auto-Conflit" notation...

 

Yeah I felt that was a good idea that was under utilized in the core. I'm sure future books will give more such talents but I was kinda hoping for more. 

[Jereru 171]

 

If not, I've got two words for you: Darth Maul.

 

 

Leeeeeeeeeeet's get ready to DARTH MAUL!!!!!!

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

Yeah, I figure if we do see a Juyo-focused spec, it's most likely to show up in the Warrior career splatbook.

[CaptainRaspberry 1,190]

My vote's on Warrior for Juyo, too. I was always under the impression that Vaapad was a Mace Windu special thing, so I don't think FFG is obligated to bring it up. That said, they always seem eager to incorporate more Legends stuff, so it may crop up where we least expect it.

 

Slightly off-topic, but my money's also on Jar'Kai showing up in some form in the Consular book.

[Daeglan 5,950]

My vote's on Warrior for Juyo, too. I was always under the impression that Vaapad was a Mace Windu special thing, so I don't think FFG is obligated to bring it up. That said, they always seem eager to incorporate more Legends stuff, so it may crop up where we least expect it.

 

Slightly off-topic, but my money's also on Jar'Kai showing up in some form in the Consular book.

Why Consular?

[CaptainRaspberry 1,190]

 

My vote's on Warrior for Juyo, too. I was always under the impression that Vaapad was a Mace Windu special thing, so I don't think FFG is obligated to bring it up. That said, they always seem eager to incorporate more Legends stuff, so it may crop up where we least expect it.

 

Slightly off-topic, but my money's also on Jar'Kai showing up in some form in the Consular book.

Why Consular?

 

 

FFG specifically mentions two lightsaber fighting in the "Form VI" bit in the Consular career (p 68). It makes sense for other forms as well, but since they called it out there, that's where I'm assuming they'll go.

[Kilcannon 177]

Can't wait for Jar'Kai myself. Also can't wait for a watchman specialization most likely in the Sentinel.

[Daeglan 5,950]

The Picture of Jar Kai is in the Seeker career. Which says to me that is where it would be. 

[Kilcannon 177]

Yeah but Jar'Kai says it is a Niman alternative

[Daeglan 5,950]

Yeah but Jar'Kai says it is a Niman alternative

where? And why would they put the picture in Seeker if that is not where it would be? 

[Kilcannon 177]

Yeah but Jar'Kai says it is a Niman alternative

where? And why would they put the picture in Seeker if that is not where it would be?

I'm not debating where they will put it based on a picture. I'm debating that it belongs with niman by history

[Daeglan 5,950]

 

 

Yeah but Jar'Kai says it is a Niman alternative

where? And why would they put the picture in Seeker if that is not where it would be?

I'm not debating where they will put it based on a picture. I'm debating that it belongs with niman by history

 

Which does not mean anything really. All of the lightsaber forms are alternatives to Niman and they are all in different careers. So it being an alternative to Niman does not really tell us much. 

[Kael 1,865]

My vote's on Warrior for Juyo, too. I was always under the impression that Vaapad was a Mace Windu special thing, so I don't think FFG is obligated to bring it up. That said, they always seem eager to incorporate more Legends stuff, so it may crop up where we least expect it.

 

Slightly off-topic, but my money's also on Jar'Kai showing up in some form in the Consular book.

 

Well Mace Windu and a handful of others. I really don't expect to see it stated to be honest, outside of maybe being the name of a talent in the Juyo form (since it was a variation on that form anyway). But I would like to see the Juyo form mostly to emulate the basics of Vapaad. 

 

I understand why Vapaad might not get stats. I just hope Juyo doesn't get left out in the cold. 

[Donovan Morningfire 10,200]

Another alternative for Juyo is to make it a Signature Ability of the Warrior career.  Which in a way, makes a sort of symbolic sense, as Shii-Cho is the basic fundamentals of lightsaber combat, while Juyo is seen as being the true culmination of lightsaber combat.

 

That is assuming FFG decides that they don't want to give Juyo a full specialization of it's own.  Which granted, I can understand them not wanting to load down the game with various Lightsaber-centric specs outside of the six they've got already in the core rulebook.

[Kael 1,865]

Another alternative for Juyo is to make it a Signature Ability of the Warrior career.  Which in a way, makes a sort of symbolic sense, as Shii-Cho is the basic fundamentals of lightsaber combat, while Juyo is seen as being the true culmination of lightsaber combat.

 

That is assuming FFG decides that they don't want to give Juyo a full specialization of it's own.  Which granted, I can understand them not wanting to load down the game with various Lightsaber-centric specs outside of the six they've got already in the core rulebook.

 

They could. But then again I don't think giving the last form specs is loading it down with to many lightsabre centric stuff. I can see not wanting to do all the minor variations (such as my beloved vapaad) but at least with Juyo it is recognized as it's own basic from different from the other 6. Some of the other ones it can be argued are just minor variations on the main theme 

 

I'm not so much asking for all variations to be stated. But the completionist in me desperately wants all the 7 major forms to have specs. 

[Daeglan 5,950]

 

Another alternative for Juyo is to make it a Signature Ability of the Warrior career.  Which in a way, makes a sort of symbolic sense, as Shii-Cho is the basic fundamentals of lightsaber combat, while Juyo is seen as being the true culmination of lightsaber combat.

 

That is assuming FFG decides that they don't want to give Juyo a full specialization of it's own.  Which granted, I can understand them not wanting to load down the game with various Lightsaber-centric specs outside of the six they've got already in the core rulebook.

 

They could. But then again I don't think giving the last form specs is loading it down with to many lightsabre centric stuff. I can see not wanting to do all the minor variations (such as my beloved vapaad) but at least with Juyo it is recognized as it's own basic from different from the other 6. Some of the other ones it can be argued are just minor variations on the main theme 

 

I'm not so much asking for all variations to be stated. But the completionist in me desperately wants all the 7 major forms to have specs. 

 

It would be nice to have Juyo and Jar Kai and Vapaad, Question is if they did that what would they put in the other 3? Maybe the Zhiesan Shaw stuff...Are their Sith forms we could do?

[kaosoe 7,573]

I hope they don't have Juyo or Vapaad as a signature ability. It would be a big disappointment limiting that option to only a single career.