Rakaydos 4,236 Posted July 9, 2015 I'll say t again, Armorerer is the Jensarri class. Also isnt Wardsn actually Warden of the Sky? "Wardens are adept, disciplined hand-to-hand fighters," It's a saber style for unarmed combat, that includes shouting at people as a maneuver. 2 awayputurwpn and Jegergryte reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harry_S 30 Posted July 9, 2015 I'll say t again, Armorerer is the Jensarri class. Also isnt Wardsn actually Warden of the Sky? "Wardens are adept, disciplined hand-to-hand fighters," It's a saber style for unarmed combat, that includes shouting at people as a maneuver. I agree with you but not sure they will be grey, they should leave that choice to the player. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasserII 2,557 Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Initial thoughts? This looks Badassed: This picture confuses me. The bodies are all stretching away from the Jedi. So what has actually happened here? Does his lightsabre extend and let him take down an entire bridge-length of stormtroopers? Has he slowly retreated along the length of the bridge with new stormtroopers hopping over the bodies of their predecessors? Has he got a really effective Move power and has just blown over all the stormtrooopers on the bridge in front of him at once? If he's not retreating, then come the stormtroopers so far away from him are dead? If he is retreating then why is each successive storm trooper climbing over the dead bodies of his predecessors to get close to him when they're armed with blaster rifles and he's armed with a close combat weapon? This picture makes no sense to me! Edited July 9, 2015 by knasserII 1 RLogue177 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi Ronin 1,588 Posted July 9, 2015 I can't wait to buy it. Jedi Battle Armor and Jedi Temple Armor. Awesome. The art work - including the cover - could easily be mistaken for Old Republic MMO artwork. Sweet. Suppress Power? Sounds like Sever Force. Cool. I know each line is couched in the Rebellion era but it's become undeniable that the system is supporting play in every era. 1 billw2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaosoe 7,573 Posted July 9, 2015 This picture confuses me. The bodies are all stretching away from the Jedi. So what has actually happened here? Does his lightsabre extend and let him take down an entire bridge-length of stormtroopers? Has he slowly retreated along the length of the bridge with new stormtroopers hopping over the bodies of their predecessors? Has he got a really effective Move power and has just blown over all the stormtrooopers on the bridge in front of him at once? If he's not retreating, then come the stormtroopers so far away from him are dead? If he is retreating then why is each successive storm trooper climbing over the dead bodies of his predecessors to get close to him when they're armed with blaster rifles and he's armed with a close combat weapon? This picture makes no sense to me! Blaster bolt deflection, maybe? Interesting. I never would have given that a second thought other than how awesome the image is. 3 Richardbuxton, dougansf and RLogue177 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakaydos 4,236 Posted July 9, 2015 Initial thoughts? This looks Badassed: This picture confuses me. The bodies are all stretching away from the Jedi. So what has actually happened here? Does his lightsabre extend and let him take down an entire bridge-length of stormtroopers? Has he slowly retreated along the length of the bridge with new stormtroopers hopping over the bodies of their predecessors? Has he got a really effective Move power and has just blown over all the stormtrooopers on the bridge in front of him at once? If he's not retreating, then come the stormtroopers so far away from him are dead? If he is retreating then why is each successive storm trooper climbing over the dead bodies of his predecessors to get close to him when they're armed with blaster rifles and he's armed with a close combat weapon? This picture makes no sense to me! Reflected blaster bolts. The Jedi is adding enough black and red dice to their shots that the stormtroopers are killing themselves with strain. 2 Richardbuxton and billw2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harry_S 30 Posted July 9, 2015 Initial thoughts? This looks Badassed: This picture confuses me. The bodies are all stretching away from the Jedi. So what has actually happened here? Does his lightsabre extend and let him take down an entire bridge-length of stormtroopers? Has he slowly retreated along the length of the bridge with new stormtroopers hopping over the bodies of their predecessors? Has he got a really effective Move power and has just blown over all the stormtrooopers on the bridge in front of him at once? If he's not retreating, then come the stormtroopers so far away from him are dead? If he is retreating then why is each successive storm trooper climbing over the dead bodies of his predecessors to get close to him when they're armed with blaster rifles and he's armed with a close combat weapon? This picture makes no sense to me! Reflected blaster bolts. The Jedi is adding enough black and red dice to their shots that the stormtroopers are killing themselves with strain. Maybe he slowly backed up as the troopers were charging or maybe just admire the art and do not look to closely at what it means Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasserII 2,557 Posted July 9, 2015 Initial thoughts? This looks Badassed: This picture confuses me. The bodies are all stretching away from the Jedi. So what has actually happened here? Does his lightsabre extend and let him take down an entire bridge-length of stormtroopers? Has he slowly retreated along the length of the bridge with new stormtroopers hopping over the bodies of their predecessors? Has he got a really effective Move power and has just blown over all the stormtrooopers on the bridge in front of him at once? If he's not retreating, then come the stormtroopers so far away from him are dead? If he is retreating then why is each successive storm trooper climbing over the dead bodies of his predecessors to get close to him when they're armed with blaster rifles and he's armed with a close combat weapon? This picture makes no sense to me! Reflected blaster bolts. The Jedi is adding enough black and red dice to their shots that the stormtroopers are killing themselves with strain.Maybe he slowly backed up as the troopers were charging or maybe just admire the art and do not look to closely at what it means Art that is unexamined demeans both the artist and the audience. I suppose reflected blaster bolts is one explanation. But it must have looked like a discoball in a pinball machine taking down an entire bridge full of stormtroopers at once, like that. 1 Jegergryte reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krieger22 2,471 Posted July 9, 2015 I just assumed that the Jedi was fighting a defensive action and had started at the far end of the bridge, withdrawing gradually while cutting down anyone that came close. And deflecting a few blaster bolts back at the shooters, naturally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakaydos 4,236 Posted July 9, 2015 Art that is unexamined demeans both the artist and the audience. I suppose reflected blaster bolts is one explanation. But it must have looked like a discoball in a pinball machine taking down an entire bridge full of stormtroopers at once, like that. They wernt nessisarally all at once, though. The bridge means only 3 stormtroopers have a shot at a time, and some of them made it all the way up to saber range. The bodies are probably the first platoon that tried rushing the jedi, climbing over their fallen front rank comrads to get closer fefre falling themselves, waves of white human shields. The ones just arriving are the second platoon, sent to find out why the first platoon isnt reporting. 1 dougansf reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasserII 2,557 Posted July 9, 2015 Art that is unexamined demeans both the artist and the audience. I suppose reflected blaster bolts is one explanation. But it must have looked like a discoball in a pinball machine taking down an entire bridge full of stormtroopers at once, like that. They wernt nessisarally all at once, though. The bridge means only 3 stormtroopers have a shot at a time, and some of them made it all the way up to saber range. The bodies are probably the first platoon that tried rushing the jedi, climbing over their fallen front rank comrads to get closer fefre falling themselves, waves of white human shields. The ones just arriving are the second platoon, sent to find out why the first platoon isnt reporting. That doesn't work. If they were just shooting and it was all deflection, they would all be piled up at one end. They must have been advancing to try and get close to the person with the close combat weapon... with their rifles. It makes no sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desslok 13,571 Posted July 9, 2015 This picture makes no sense to me! Easy! That's one saber throw away from a boatload of dead troopers. 3 BigSpoon, kaosoe and Richardbuxton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImperialSpy 172 Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Art that is unexamined demeans both the artist and the audience. I suppose reflected blaster bolts is one explanation. But it must have looked like a discoball in a pinball machine taking down an entire bridge full of stormtroopers at once, like that. They wernt nessisarally all at once, though. The bridge means only 3 stormtroopers have a shot at a time, and some of them made it all the way up to saber range. The bodies are probably the first platoon that tried rushing the jedi, climbing over their fallen front rank comrads to get closer fefre falling themselves, waves of white human shields. The ones just arriving are the second platoon, sent to find out why the first platoon isnt reporting. That doesn't work. If they were just shooting and it was all deflection, they would all be piled up at one end. They must have been advancing to try and get close to the person with the close combat weapon... with their rifles. It makes no sense. The Jedi actually pushed the first platoon back from his side of the ridge behind the bridge all the way across (both in cutting them down and deflecting bolts from the rear). He then spots second platoon arriving and falls back, hoping to use the bridge as an anchor so the troopers can't outflank him, the bridge also serving as a choke-point. For their part, 2nd platoon has always been the B-team for this garrison, and thinks they can succeed using the same tactic 1st platoon already failed doing. In short: Grass is green, sky is blue, and stormtroopers are dumb as bricks. Edited July 9, 2015 by ImperialSpy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harry_S 30 Posted July 9, 2015 (snip)Art that is unexamined demeans both the artist and the audience. Touche, that is a good point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandersnee 50 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) See. I had different thoughts on the image. I absolutely loved it because it illustrates a moment found throughout various mythologies where a hero takes on an uncountable number of enemies. For example, when Sampson takes on 1,000 Philistines. And it just makes me wonder what is going through the mind of that nine-hundredth-and-ninety-ninth Philistine as he climbs over the towering mound of his dead compatriots as he thinks that maybe, JUST MAYBE he's got something that the other 998 didn't, while the last guy says, "Naw, it's alright... he's all yours." So, I just added a thought bubble to the image. Edited July 10, 2015 by bandersnee 20 MTaylor, Krieger22, Tusknia and 17 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I. J. Thompson 770 Posted July 10, 2015 Yep. "Pretty sure I'M the nameless thug who's gonna take out Batman." 5 Lorne, awayputurwpn, Darth Hideous and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desslok 13,571 Posted July 10, 2015 See. I had different thoughts on the image. I absolutely loved it because it illustrates a moment found throughout various mythologies where a hero takes on an uncountable number of enemies. For example, when Sampson takes on 1,000 Philistines. And it just makes me wonder what is going through the mind of that nine-hundredth-and-ninety-ninth Philistine as he climbs over the towering mound of his dead compatriots as he thinks that maybe, JUST MAYBE he's got something that the other 998 didn't, while the last guy says, "Naw, it's alright... he's all yours." I don't remember if it was Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan movie, but I remember a Kung Fu fight where Our Hero just delivered an absolute beat-down on a whole bunch of mooks, and the very last one standing looks at his nunchucks and the piles of his unconscious friends and just throws them down with a "I'm out." look before turning to leave. 1 dougansf reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MandalorynOranj 144 Posted July 10, 2015 See. I had different thoughts on the image. I absolutely loved it because it illustrates a moment found throughout various mythologies where a hero takes on an uncountable number of enemies. For example, when Sampson takes on 1,000 Philistines. And it just makes me wonder what is going through the mind of that nine-hundredth-and-ninety-ninth Philistine as he climbs over the towering mound of his dead compatriots as he thinks that maybe, JUST MAYBE he's got something that the other 998 didn't, while the last guy says, "Naw, it's alright... he's all yours." I don't remember if it was Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan movie, but I remember a Kung Fu fight where Our Hero just delivered an absolute beat-down on a whole bunch of mooks, and the very last one standing looks at his nunchucks and the piles of his unconscious friends and just throws them down with a "I'm out." look before turning to leave. Similar scene in Iron Man 3, he takes out a bunch of guards and the last guy just throws down his gun and say "Honestly, these guys are so weird" and runs off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasserII 2,557 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) See. I had different thoughts on the image. I absolutely loved it because it illustrates a moment found throughout various mythologies where a hero takes on an uncountable number of enemies. For example, when Sampson takes on 1,000 Philistines. And it just makes me wonder what is going through the mind of that nine-hundredth-and-ninety-ninth Philistine as he climbs over the towering mound of his dead compatriots as he thinks that maybe, JUST MAYBE he's got something that the other 998 didn't, while the last guy says, "Naw, it's alright... he's all yours." I don't remember if it was Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan movie, but I remember a Kung Fu fight where Our Hero just delivered an absolute beat-down on a whole bunch of mooks, and the very last one standing looks at his nunchucks and the piles of his unconscious friends and just throws them down with a "I'm out." look before turning to leave. Similar scene in Iron Man 3, he takes out a bunch of guards and the last guy just throws down his gun and say "Honestly, these guys are so weird" and runs off. That was a great moment. It's something done in a number of films, though rarely. I seldom find it anything other than hilarious. (Animated gif of Count Rugen in the Princess Bride running away) Edited July 10, 2015 by knasserII 5 bandersnee, harry_S, Desslok and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Tremayne 424 Posted July 10, 2015 Easier to hit at close range? This is something we see A LOT in the films, troopers and battle droids always trying to close the distance with their targets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richardbuxton 7,319 Posted July 11, 2015 How about this as a story: The party are a group of Rebel infiltrators, on an unnamed Jungle world thats being used as a Prison by the Imps. The PC's have been tasked with breaking in during the transfer of a captured Force user who has been a great ally to the Rebellion until recently, when suddenly they where uncovered by an inquisitor, unfortunately the prisoner has knowledge useful to the Empire if they can get it out of her. The whole party together took out the Troopers on the bridge in an ambush, using blaster and sabre from the underbrush, as this bridge was the planed path to get from their hidden ship to the prison. But they are limited on time to get the primary objective done, as they need to get to the Prison and didn't expect reinforcements so soon (thanks to a despair rolled by a PC). So the guardian valiantly offers to make a stand as rear guard, slowing down the reinforcements while the rest of the PC's attempt to get the primary objective completed. The Guardian will either catch up with the Party at the Prison or at their ship hidden a little ways away, once he has dispatched the Troopers. The second engagement has not started yet as the Troopers are assessing the scene and the Guardian is happy to delay, but not suicide. The Party are using comms scramblers to prevent the Imps from communicating back to base. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueCorona 1,043 Posted July 11, 2015 Easier to hit at close range? This is something we see A LOT in the films, troopers and battle droids always trying to close the distance with their targets. Less time for the target to react to the shots may be why. Especially with Jedi who are known to be abe to bounce bolts back at their shooters. Sure if you stand off and flood them with fire they can't block them al but do you really want to risk being the person whose bolt does get bounced back? Still the book looks fascinating and if I ever try to do a conversion of my favorite Saga edition character then Warleader might suit him well, depending on how its abilities covert to capital ship and fleet combat. (He was a crew member of an anti-Imperial pirate frigate that turned into an Alliance privateer then a captain in the Alliance fleet before he became a Jedi.) I'm curious about what vehicles and ships we'll get as well. Perhaps some new ships specializing in escort roles? I would love to see new escort frigate classes or older ones that haven't been included in the RPG so far and are either FFG created or from other sources. 1 kaosoe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilcannon 177 Posted July 11, 2015 I hope one of the books upcoming has the Miraluka. I don't like the idea of making an unofficial one especially with so much debate comes with the species 2 kaosoe and Wolftemplar reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyDaze 10,108 Posted July 11, 2015 Whatever happened to those stormtroopers on the bridge, it probably didn't involve being hit by the lightsaber since none of them appear to be dismembered. 2 Richardbuxton and patrious reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasserII 2,557 Posted July 11, 2015 Whatever happened to those stormtroopers on the bridge, it probably didn't involve being hit by the lightsaber since none of them appear to be dismembered. An extended game of Grandmother's Footsteps? You lie down when you're out and the Jedi is grandmother. Could be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites