So age of Sigmar? (GW aka Great Wasteland has comited heresy)

[Stilgod 1,686]

Feminists are crying over the Beard rule, but what about us military folk?

[Arschbombe 1,001]

Get a shaving profile and you're good.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

The Kurt Hellborg model should come with a fake mustache, really.

I'm rocking the Sharkan Vol look so I'm  good, but it's still an odd rule.

[TopHatGorilla 1,057]

The Kurt Hellborg model should come with a fake mustache, really.

I'm rocking the Sharkan Vol look so I'm  good, but it's still an odd rule.

 

The new Citadel Fake Mustache: Only £35

Edited July 14, 2015 by TopHatGorilla

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Feminists are crying over the Beard rule, but what about us military folk?

Sir I assure you I've known several women with fine mustaches, mostly my elderly aunt's.

[Stilgod 1,686]

 

Feminists are crying over the Beard rule, but what about us military folk?

Sir I assure you I've known several women with fine mustaches, mostly my elderly aunt's.

 

[FTS Gecko 24,135]

This week from Games Workshop:  Bases!  Round bases!  LOTS OF THEM!

[GML 124]

"Bases!  Round bases!  Lots of them!  For a game where the base is to just hold up the model!"

Edited July 21, 2015 by GML

[Robin Graves 6,054]

 

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

"Bases!  Round bases!  Lots of them!  For a game where the base is to just hold up the model!"

 

 

Base not important! You measure from model! Model is important!

One more thing! This new rule is stupid!

[RogueCorona 1,043]

I'm worried they might create a new age for Warhammer 40k as well. I don't want to think about what insanity they will come up with for that one.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

I think 40k is pretty much safe (ie everything is already round based copyrighted) from GW's meddling. The only casualties so far are the space marine statue and aquila outside the GW HQ.

 

I mean what are they gonna do? Make the shoulderpads on marines even bigger?

 

 

Oh lord ...

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Sadly if AoS does well 40k won't be safe, they stupidly don't care about existing customers because you've already bought your army they just want new players.

They think if vets leave people will stop moaning.

However anecdotal evidence points to people avoiding AoS no where sold out of the starter the limited edition scenario book is still freely available so looks like old and new customers are avoiding it.

I don't personally know anyone wanting to switch to the new game they either stay with 8th or quit.

Just a shame 7th is such a cluster it'd be so easy for a decent dev team to make it a game worth playing again.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

I've been hearing some good things about Kings of War.

 

But why don't people go further back to, let's say 4th edition? (Okay this would suck if you play Ogre Kingdoms) Nobody is forcing you to use the latest rules now the game is pretty much killed of. Go oldhammer and play what you want to play. (Chaos dwarfs! Hashut! Zashut! Zhar-nagrund!)

[Forgottenlore 9,838]

Nobody is forcing you to use the latest rules now the game is pretty much killed of. Go oldhammer and play what you want to play. (Chaos dwarfs! Hashut! Zashut! Zhar-nagrund!)

If you play with one group of friends who all agree on what the game should be, sure, you can do that. If your gaming involves going to the local game store and getting in a pick-up game with whatever stranger or even casual acquaintance is available, that doesn't work so well.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

 

Nobody is forcing you to use the latest rules now the game is pretty much killed of. Go oldhammer and play what you want to play. (Chaos dwarfs! Hashut! Zashut! Zhar-nagrund!)

If you play with one group of friends who all agree on what the game should be, sure, you can do that. If your gaming involves going to the local game store and getting in a pick-up game with whatever stranger or even casual acquaintance is available, that doesn't work so well.

 

 

You have a point there. Guess they are stuck with 8th...or actualy 6th since from most people i've heard about quit  around that time.

[TopHatGorilla 1,057]

I think 40k is pretty much safe (ie everything is already round based copyrighted) from GW's meddling. The only casualties so far are the space marine statue and aquila outside the GW HQ.

 

I mean what are they gonna do? Make the shoulderpads on marines even bigger?

 

 

Oh lord ...

SHOULDER PADS NOT IMPORTANT. ONLY LIFE IMPORTANT.

[Gadge 4,294]

Actually chatting to a friend in the design studio...  AOS was the best selling release they've had in decades.

 

It's actually going down really well with players.

 

The WD with the free sigmarite  is currently about £20 on ebay!

 

WD hasnt sold out for years.

 

Likewise i've since learnt that the 'silly' special rules are mainly there when you use old lore characters.

 

I've yet to play it so wont condemn the game til i do.

 

Oh yeah and slaanesh might not be dead, well he's not but i can't tell you any more than that....

[Gadge 4,294]

 

 

Nobody is forcing you to use the latest rules now the game is pretty much killed of. Go oldhammer and play what you want to play. (Chaos dwarfs! Hashut! Zashut! Zhar-nagrund!)

If you play with one group of friends who all agree on what the game should be, sure, you can do that. If your gaming involves going to the local game store and getting in a pick-up game with whatever stranger or even casual acquaintance is available, that doesn't work so well.

 

 

You have a point there. Guess they are stuck with 8th...or actualy 6th since from most people i've heard about quit  around that time.

 

 

 

we play 3rd ed warhammer, 1st and 2nd 40k and 1st ed WHFRP  (and my gaming group has GW designers in it... ) no one forces you to play new systems.

 

The only advantage of playing the 'current' rules is if you have no friends (like real friends) who game as you are forced to get pick up games at stores and clubs and the 'current' rules means you don't spend an hour with every new opponent working out 'what point in rogue trader are we playing?  core rules or anything in WD too , up to what issue? ' etc.

 

These days I've written enough games and rules that I usually write my own set for my group if i want to play a particular universe or historical period as *no* commercial set of rules is going to be perfect for what i want but if i write my own then i know i'm happy with them.

[Mystic Force 34]

I stopped buying WFB stuff because it became so expensive, it wasnt really the price per box, but the number per box which did it. There is no way I am buying back into a new game. But i could have been pursuaded to buy WFB again. But for now my money goes to FFG, mainly because it is easier to find new people to play these games. My prefered game store due to accessibility doesn't even carry GW, and that would have been unheard of a few years ago.

Edited July 22, 2015 by Mystic Force

[Gadge 4,294]

Again i remember trying to fight the price rise and mini cuts for warhammer box sets.

 

I always said that a box needed to be a decent usable unit for less than £20 or you'd kill the game but GW always chased what they called the 'premium price', basically the point at which you can still charge without someone calling it 'too expensive'.

 

problem is that varies depending on your age a lot.

 

Killed off the younger players for sure.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

 

The WD with the free sigmarite  is currently about £20 on ebay!

 

WD hasnt sold out for years.

 

Oh yeah and slaanesh might not be dead, well he's not but i can't tell you any more than that....

 

To be fair when was the last time we had something free with the WD? Some Terminators and mighty empire tiles a few years back...and before that, that Mordheim figure. I did have the store put a copy on the side for me.

 

£20 for one sigmarite...That does not seem good value. (Unless they want the mag as a colectors item?) How much are they for a box of five?

 

Speaking of the sigmarines errr sigmarites: Have you seen the silver painted ones? They look like the bloody Cybermen!

 

Oh and have you seen the judicators? That's the ones with the bows. the crossbows are called (listen to this...) Boltstorm crossbows. Boltstorm..stormbolter...get it? GW: Fans call new models space marines. Changes weapon name to invoke even more 40k...

 

Oh and Slaanesh can't be dead, the harlequins need her to save the Eldar race! (Thats from the codex, not my fan canon btw)

[FTS Gecko 24,135]

I always said that a box needed to be a decent usable unit for less than £20 or you'd kill the game but GW always chased what they called the 'premium price', basically the point at which you can still charge without someone calling it 'too expensive'.

 

problem is that varies depending on your age a lot.

 

Killed off the younger players for sure.

 

Yep.  Price gouging killed off interest from the younger players...

 

...and wiping out thirty years worth of creative world-building and shifting the game in a completely different direction has killed off interest from the older existing players.

[GML 124]

Sadly if AoS does well 40k won't be safe, they stupidly don't care about existing customers because you've already bought your army they just want new players.

Talk about fear-mongering.  No, 40k is not in jeopardy of going down the road of Fantasy and becoming similar to Age of Sigmar.  Why?  Just look at the pace of releases GW has had going for the past 7 months.  I mean, what have we gotten so far?  Eldar, Harlequins, Skitarii, Mechanicus, Space Marines, Dark Angels, Imperial Knights...

 

In previous years, a release schedule like that would have taken them two or three years to push out.  But because they are no longer focusing as much on the fantasy side, they can dedicate more resources to the game that makes them a metric crap tonne of money.  40k has always been more successful than fantasy, and they would be damaging their company if they cut it apart.

[Mystic Force 34]

I always thought they had too many factions. It diluted the amount of buying of each one and made it hard to tie things together for global story linked games or smaller player created campaigns.

The General's Compendium got me back into buying warhammer, by contrast blood in the badlands was nowhere near as compelling. I didnt bother with things like storm of magic because they looked like things which wouldnt be supported long term to me. They have said they wanted a less competitive mind set among players and more narrative style, but if thats what you want you need to support it with products that match that reality. Like making WD content worth reading, themed battle reports narrative campaigns interesting scenarios not glossy adverts for the latest thing. When they started doing that I stopped buying it instead using the money to buy actual product. It was picking up a copy of WD in WH Smiths that actually got me started. I still remember it well. The battle report was Dieter Hellsnitch (?) Undead against an Empire force with a second small battle of reinforcements on a different table.

Playing the game against people maximising rules that where not properly thought out though was a definite detriment. As for making a skirmish style game, that was never what WFB was about the blocks of troops were the defining feature. There are other skirmish games, for the longest time there was only one unit level game easily accessible.