WarTurtle 139 Posted June 28, 2015 So...is everyone pretty much thinking the Lightning Reflexes belongs most on our Dark Lord of the Emo? I know it's just a one shot and it brings the stress, but man...that could really ruin someone's day if you arc dodge them then flip it so you're firing at R1. Am i missing sumfin'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) stress --> tie advance greens --> son, you dun goofed also, LR isn't predator or outmanuever so there's that too Edited June 28, 2015 by ficklegreendice 4 ObiWonka, nigeltastic, Comradebot and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comradebot 1,255 Posted June 28, 2015 What does this have to do with Beric Dondarrion? 15 vyrago, WarTurtle, Marinealver and 12 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 8,636 Posted June 28, 2015 You'll be missing Vader's pilot ability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comradebot 1,255 Posted June 28, 2015 But to echo others, yeah... not feeling it on Vader. With his pilot ability, it seems like a bit of a waste. Maybe if you're on a serious point budget? Still, I'd rather take Outmaneuver with Vader. Or Squad Leader. Or Predator, which I still don't like as much as Outmaneuver but with the upcoming ATC upgrade that you can't burn TLs while using... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarriorPoet 352 Posted June 28, 2015 Forget Beric, I want Thoros for my ships! (Which could arguably be R2-D2 or the Nashtah Pup, I suppose.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ObiWonka 7,040 Posted June 28, 2015 Here I was hoping we were finally going to start some kind of conversation about K-turning HWKs. 3 Blail Blerg, ficklegreendice and Reiver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blail Blerg 7,335 Posted June 28, 2015 YES K TURN HWK ALL THE WAYYYY:KAJSDLKFASNDLKFS Now we know why the shuttle doesnt have an EPT. 2 ObiWonka and Radzap reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HungryFFG 95 Posted June 28, 2015 YES K TURN HWK ALL THE WAYYYY:KAJSDLKFASNDLKFS Now we know why the shuttle doesnt have an EPT. Actually, Lightning Reflexes is "Small Ship Only", so it would not work anyway. 1 ObiWonka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted June 28, 2015 k-turning HWKs! Moldy Crow banking focus once again saves the day! 1 ObiWonka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comradebot 1,255 Posted June 28, 2015 As amusing as the thought of K-Turning HWKs is, I can't imagine much practical purpose for it. Ain't like HWKs are famous for their need to keep enemies in their arcs. I can see X-Wings, even with their limited amount of greens, getting some solid use out of it (and could be paired with the R2 Astromech to double the green options). Let an opportunistic X-Wing get in to the furball and keep pounding with those R1 four die attacks. Heck, maybe throw on R5-K6 to try and maintain a TL through the usage of the EPT, so you come in behind and can still modify your die. Khiraxz is also a solid choice for the same reasons, and even a E-Wing might be able to get some nice mileage out of it, especially with FCS. INTs and A-Wings don't need it, Y-Wing... well, only one can take it naturally none can take it AND the R2 that'd need to not suck after flipping around. Bs don't really strike me as needing it too much, and they aren't super rich on greens, but again I could see the argument for it as it just gives them one more close range knife-fight option, and they can also use FCS/Sensors to help get a dice modifier. Yeah, actually thinking about it, I really like the idea of Bs with LR. Realistically, I think just about any ship could potentially get some benefit out of it. Sure, A-Wings are already plenty nimble, but if you could do it with Jake Farrell you might put him in an incredibly annoying position for your opponent to try and shake. It's gonna be a fun card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) LR on HWKs isn't for arcs as much as maneuverability, which is a sore point for the poor bastards basically, it's range 1-2 turrets coupled with enemies getting to K-turn while they don't (and seriously that bites, you ever try chasing some bastard down or getting back into the fight with palob? it's not easy ). LR is like a super k-turn you can perform on any of your 2-manuevers, so your HWK basically becomes a tiny IG for a turn I can think of worse ways to spend a point, though I also can't think of anyone outside of Palob who'd make the most of it Edited June 28, 2015 by ficklegreendice 1 ObiWonka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjnj193 86 Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Think a ship running in squad that has Captain Yorr in it wouldn't be that bad to have lightning reflexes on, gives you a whole lot of wiggle room. But still dropping an ept on an empire ship... can't think of something that would want this. Vessery? Juno eclipse? One of the ept ties? Edited June 28, 2015 by cjnj193 1 ObiWonka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted June 28, 2015 honestly, can't see it anywhere else apart from A-wings 21 points for predator, LR greenies w/refit. Beats the **** out of rookie pilots, for sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodstripe Baron 510 Posted June 29, 2015 K-turning hwks will forever be known as: Tony hwks. 11 Tipperary, ViscerothSWG, Jarval and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ObiWonka 7,040 Posted June 29, 2015 K-turning hwks will forever be known as: Tony hwks. It is so ordered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,068 Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) To be honest I think Adrenalin rush would be much better ability. To turn the K-turn into a white so that Vader can still have his two actions is a big thing. Vader doesn't like stress, so any card that gives stress even cards like PTL is not his favorite. Now Tycho on the other hand. He loves that stuff. He would want 2. Edited June 29, 2015 by Marinealver 3 Reiver, IvlerIin and WarTurtle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites