emmjay 319 Posted June 21, 2015 Anyone think about making a Rebel version of the space cow? Or even a title to allow the current shuttle to work with rebels? TITLE Shuttle Tydirium Lambda class shuttle only Omicron Group Pilot Only Rebel Only This ship can be used with a Rebel faction squad. This title adds a (crew) slot. Cost 4 Simple title that will allow the rebels to use a space cow. The added crew slot allows the rebels to compete and have a 3 crew ship like the imps have and the scu, will soon have. 3 Thrawn on YouTube, FlyingAnchors and The_Brown_Bomber reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum Eternal 129 Posted June 21, 2015 yes...it would be fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pickirk01 1,663 Posted June 21, 2015 Anyone think about making a Rebel version of the space cow? Or even a title to allow the current shuttle to work with rebels? TITLE Shuttle Tydirium Lambda class shuttle only Omicron Group Pilot Only Rebel Only This ship can be used with a Rebel faction squad. This title adds a (crew) slot. Cost 4 Simple title that will allow the rebels to use a space cow. The added crew slot allows the rebels to compete and have a 3 crew ship like the imps have and the scu, will soon have. This should also come with an EPT slot and the following card. Fly Casual Rebel only Lambda Shuttle only 2 points You cannot be selected as the target of an enemy attack until at least one enemy ship ends its activation phase within range 1 of you. 3 Kyrios Mirage, ForceSensitive and FlyingAnchors reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grayfax 991 Posted June 21, 2015 At some point needs a Chewbacca pilot card... 1 Conundrum Eternal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacchuWA 969 Posted June 21, 2015 A title overcomplicates it a bit I think, a simple rebel pilot card would be better. The challenge there, though, becomes how FFG would package it - from done interviews I've read/seen it seems like cardboard punch card space is often a limiting reagent when it comes to exclamation packs, and a new large base plate would take up a lot of space. Would be cool as part of some kind of axes style reissue, but large ship aces packs would stay getting pretty pricey... Maybe on some kind of traitors push with Erisi Dlarit in an Imp X Wing? 1 MortalPlague reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevenO 2,996 Posted June 21, 2015 Forget the title, if you want Shuttle Tydirium just make it a pilot card with its own base tile. We just need a card and a base tile to repurpose ships and if you do a large base then you can have something else on the other side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted June 21, 2015 Last time i suggested something like this there was a lot of hate for more ships crossing factions. So watch out. I think one unique (Han and Chewie as one pilot) with PS of 7 and skill of: each friendly ship within range one gains one agility. Must take Shuttle Tyderium Title (unique). Title states: this ship cannot b attacked until it attacks or there are no other friendly ships. 'Generic' pilot is Rebel Assault Squad, PS 3, no special skill. Same upgrades as regular shuttle, minus the cannon, and maybe an extra crew The big downside is you can't use Han or Chewie on anything else. Also a new mission comes with the cards emulating getting through a blockade or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,359 Posted June 21, 2015 you have to add "cannot be used for competitive play" how're you supposed to use it, then? 1 CptShrike reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodstripe Baron 510 Posted June 21, 2015 Just another one agility ship that can take rebel crew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted June 21, 2015 At least it will be another large base for rebels. I know they have two epic ships and the other factions have none (Raider, where are you?), but hey only have the YTs as their large ships, while Imps have had 3 for a while (one of them in the 'extra large' box) and scum will soon get a third. And I'm not holding out hope for the Lady Luck anytime soon. Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacchuWA 969 Posted June 21, 2015 At least it will be another large base for rebels. I know they have two epic ships and the other factions have none (Raider, where are you?), but hey only have the YTs as their large ships, while Imps have had 3 for a while (one of them in the 'extra large' box) and scum will soon get a third. And I'm not holding out hope for the Lady Luck anytime soon. Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Maybe this thing: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YKL-37R_Nova_Courier I'm not too fond of the design personally, but FFG seems to really like sourcing ships from SW Galaxies, so maybe? Truth is though, I think they're very keen on visual style for each faction - that might be why we got the TIE Punisher instead of the Assault Gunboat; they only want the imperials to have TIEs. Maybe they only want the rebels to have YTs as large base ships? In that case, effect the YT 2000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,823 Posted June 21, 2015 Rules for a rebel version of the lambda have been suggested many times. The problem with the idea is that it really isn't necessary. For tournament players it us a bad idea to dilute faction identity, and narrative players can just ignore the rule on faction only ships for the shuttle. Want to play a game with the tyderium? Say to your opponent "Hey, let's play a game with the tyderium. I'll take a rebel squad with an omicron group pilot, you play an imperial squad." That's all that's needed to play a rebel shuttle. 6 DarthEnderX, Parravon, Timeron Malachi and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Brown_Bomber 573 Posted June 21, 2015 this is the one upgrade/pilot i REALLY hope they actually make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parravon 5,216 Posted June 21, 2015 I know the shuttle is well armed, but I didn't see one engaging in combat in any of the movies, especially the Tyderium. The last thing Han and Chewie wanted was to draw attention to themselves. Have they been used in combat in the EU? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobojebus 11,341 Posted June 21, 2015 Tell you what if we get a super star destroyer you can get a shuttle, I think that's fair. 1 ShakeZoola72 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge 4,294 Posted June 21, 2015 The thing is there was only *one* used in the films and that didnt actually work as the imperials knew (well vader/the emporer did). In the now 'non canon' EU the rebels have flights of them with rebel insignia on but most people don't know this. You could possibly do a repaint and release a rebel shuttle but honestly would it sell that much. I think the best solution is above. Just play games with mates that are narrative driven and make up house rules. I'd rather see an assault gunboat before a rebel shuttle. 1 ShakeZoola72 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,424 Posted June 21, 2015 The way the rules are written a title doesn't work. The rebels can't take an Omicron to equip it to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firespray-32 5,424 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) At least it will be another large base for rebels. I know they have two epic ships and the other factions have none (Raider, where are you?), but hey only have the YTs as their large ships, while Imps have had 3 for a while (one of them in the 'extra large' box) and scum will soon get a third. And I'm not holding out hope for the Lady Luck anytime soon. Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Maybe this thing: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YKL-37R_Nova_Courier I'm not too fond of the design personally, but FFG seems to really like sourcing ships from SW Galaxies, so maybe? Truth is though, I think they're very keen on visual style for each faction - that might be why we got the TIE Punisher instead of the Assault Gunboat; they only want the imperials to have TIEs. Maybe they only want the rebels to have YTs as large base ships? In that case, effect the YT 2000. It's more they seem to source from video games. Empire At War is another favourite. Why? 3D models make great reference images, I'd wager. As for why we have the Punisher instead of the Gunboat? The Gunboat doesn't do the job they wanted: an Imperial K-wing. The only other option really was the Scimitar Assault Bomber, and when you compare those two the Punisher's selection looks far more obvious. Edited June 21, 2015 by Blue Five Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phocion 386 Posted June 21, 2015 Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Porkins? 2 gamblertuba and pickirk01 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted June 21, 2015 The thing is there was only *one* used in the films and that didnt actually work as the imperials knew (well vader/the emporer did). In the now 'non canon' EU the rebels have flights of them with rebel insignia on but most people don't know this. You could possibly do a repaint and release a rebel shuttle but honestly would it sell that much. I think the best solution is above. Just play games with mates that are narrative driven and make up house rules. I'd rather see an assault gunboat before a rebel shuttle. At least it will be another large base for rebels. I know they have two epic ships and the other factions have none (Raider, where are you?), but hey only have the YTs as their large ships, while Imps have had 3 for a while (one of them in the 'extra large' box) and scum will soon get a third. And I'm not holding out hope for the Lady Luck anytime soon. Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Maybe this thing:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YKL-37R_Nova_Courier I'm not too fond of the design personally, but FFG seems to really like sourcing ships from SW Galaxies, so maybe? Truth is though, I think they're very keen on visual style for each faction - that might be why we got the TIE Punisher instead of the Assault Gunboat; they only want the imperials to have TIEs. Maybe they only want the rebels to have YTs as large base ships? In that case, effect the YT 2000. It's more they seem to source from video games. Empire At War is another favourite. Why? 3D models make great reference images, I'd wager. As for why we have the Punisher instead of the Gunboat? The Gunboat doesn't do the job they wanted: an Imperial K-wing. The only other option really was the Scimitar Assault Bomber, and when you compare those two the Punisher's selection looks far more obvious. The thing is there was only *one* used in the films and that didnt actually work as the imperials knew (well vader/the emporer did). In the now 'non canon' EU the rebels have flights of them with rebel insignia on but most people don't know this. You could possibly do a repaint and release a rebel shuttle but honestly would it sell that much. I think the best solution is above. Just play games with mates that are narrative driven and make up house rules. I'd rather see an assault gunboat before a rebel shuttle.I never liked the BIG rebel starbird insignias on the stollen Lambdas, it just seemed unlikely that they would want to draw attention like that. Can't use those shuttles for smuggling or infiltration at all. Also it would have made more sense for the rebels to use the Transports (Stormtrooper transports, or delta class. I think they have about 15 different delta class ships in the EU from shuttles to transports to fighters, oh well) as they seemed more numerous and far more utilitarian. Flying around in a stolen shuttle picking up stranded fighter pilots doesn't seem like the best option.Oh and I'm glad Porkins was able to eject in time and made it back to the Massassi Base by parachute. Or is Phineas and Ferb not canon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted June 21, 2015 At least it will be another large base for rebels. I know they have two epic ships and the other factions have none (Raider, where are you?), but hey only have the YTs as their large ships, while Imps have had 3 for a while (one of them in the 'extra large' box) and scum will soon get a third. And I'm not holding out hope for the Lady Luck anytime soon. Any other ideas for any large Rebels? Maybe this thing:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YKL-37R_Nova_Courier I'm not too fond of the design personally, but FFG seems to really like sourcing ships from SW Galaxies, so maybe? Truth is though, I think they're very keen on visual style for each faction - that might be why we got the TIE Punisher instead of the Assault Gunboat; they only want the imperials to have TIEs. Maybe they only want the rebels to have YTs as large base ships? In that case, effect the YT 2000. It's more they seem to source from video games. Empire At War is another favourite. Why? 3D models make great reference images, I'd wager. As for why we have the Punisher instead of the Gunboat? The Gunboat doesn't do the job they wanted: an Imperial K-wing. The only other option really was the Scimitar Assault Bomber, and when you compare those two the Punisher's selection looks far more obvious. The Missile boat would have been the obvious 'imperial K-wing' counterpart since it has a large ordanance capacity and pioneered the SLAM. But, not a TIE. I guess they also didn't want another 1 attack ship too. Still waiting for TIE Scout! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Forgottenlore 9,823 Posted June 21, 2015 The way the rules are written a title doesn't work. The rebels can't take an Omicron to equip it to. Yeah, this is another problem. The only way to do cross faction ships, given the structure of the fleet building rules, would be to do separate pilot cards. Which is exactly what they have done for the firespray, hwk, headhunter and y-wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted June 21, 2015 The way the rules are written a title doesn't work. The rebels can't take an Omicron to equip it to. Yeah, this is another problem. The only way to do cross faction ships, given the structure of the fleet building rules, would be to do separate pilot cards. Which is exactly what they have done for the firespray, hwk, headhunter and y-wing. Cross faction ships probably won't happen again unless there's another new faction. And I don't think hat would be wise, the three we have give more than enough variety. Though I would love a Smugglers faction where an independent Han, Chewie and Lando can hang out with Tallon Karde and a few other folks. You know, the 'nice' criminals. I just don't see that faction fighting openly with Rebels though. Maybe an Alien Alliance with stuff like Chiss and Vong and stuff. I dunno. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,823 Posted June 21, 2015 Cross faction ships probably won't happen again unless there's another new faction. Yes, but the entire premise of this thread is how to do a cross-faction ship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites