Vorpal Sword 14,685 Posted May 22, 2015 Okay, two points: (1) Everybody who disagrees with WonderWAAAGH is right: based on the information FFG has made public, the YV-666 appears to have an auxiliary firing arc (two of them, actually). It is entirely plausible that these operate just like the Firespray's auxiliary firing arc. (2) WonderWAAAGH is also right: exactly what the "auxiliary arcs" are or do are in the realm of speculation for everyone except FFG's design team and playtesters. FFG could, if they wanted, print that exact ship chit and define those two shaded spaces as Super Duper Arcs where the YV gets an extra attack die. FFG could define them as Nasty Blind Spots, and rule that the YV can't shoot at anything within the auxiliary arc. So asking whether triple-YV builds are going to be a thing, let alone planning to stack multiple Tacticians and abuse (what people assume to be) auxiliary arcs, is putting the cart in the next county over from the horse. 5 YwingAce, Hobojebus, Forensicus and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gather 259 Posted May 22, 2015 Less logic and more high school debate team drama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,882 Posted May 22, 2015 if I'm not going blind, it seems that only borsch has an ept Who in Lucas' name is Borsch? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WonderWAAAGH 7,153 Posted May 22, 2015 if I'm not going blind, it seems that only borsch has an eptWho in Lucas' name is Borsch? I don't know, but he sounds delicious. 1 darthlurker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,363 Posted May 22, 2015 if I'm not going blind, it seems that only borsch has an eptWho in Lucas' name is Borsch? Better than his fratboy cousin, brosch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cody campbell 361 Posted May 22, 2015 Just want to point out...technically, I don't think the ship has a 180 degree firing arc...it has 3 separate ones that equal an 180 degree coverage. Though, I guess you could argue that it has a 90 degree primary arc, with a 180 degree auxiliary arc overlapping it. Hard to say, but a ship with the arcs that overlap could be an interesting dynamic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIE Pilot 3,501 Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Not to rain on the wild speculation or anything, but there's fairly convincing evidence that it's a simple case of 180o primary weapon arc (and then normal arc for secondaries as per every other ship in the game.) Edited May 23, 2015 by TIE Pilot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cody campbell 361 Posted May 23, 2015 Not to rain on the wild speculation or anything, but there's fairly convincing evidence that it's a simple case of 180o primary weapon arc (and then normal arc for secondaries as per every other ship in the game.) Awww, bummer, Bossk and FFG stole my ability!!! I am currently working on a bunch of custom pilots and I made a Z-95 that has that exact ability. Guess I better finish the pilot cards and show 'em off, lest I be accused of plagiarism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictoryLeo 146 Posted May 23, 2015 Kinda like the idea of Bossk with Ion Cannon, Greedo, Two Tacticians and Inertial Dampeners with four Bugzappers now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaSilver 2,881 Posted May 23, 2015 Kinda like the idea of Bossk with Ion Cannon, Greedo, Two Tacticians and Inertial Dampeners with four Bugzappers now... Bossk wants Mangler for his pilot ability to activate. With Ion Cannon that's never going to happen when you use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictoryLeo 146 Posted May 23, 2015 Kinda like the idea of Bossk with Ion Cannon, Greedo, Two Tacticians and Inertial Dampeners with four Bugzappers now... Bossk wants Mangler for his pilot ability to activate. With Ion Cannon that's never going to happen when you use it. I like the crit monster possibility with Bossk and Mangler, but throw the 1 damage ion, have Greedo flip it up and then get two stress tokens. It'd be fun to screw around with in a casual game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaSilver 2,881 Posted May 23, 2015 Kinda like the idea of Bossk with Ion Cannon, Greedo, Two Tacticians and Inertial Dampeners with four Bugzappers now... Bossk wants Mangler for his pilot ability to activate. With Ion Cannon that's never going to happen when you use it. I like the crit monster possibility with Bossk and Mangler, but throw the 1 damage ion, have Greedo flip it up and then get two stress tokens. It'd be fun to screw around with in a casual game. If you want to use that combo, it'll probably be best to use another pilot. 1 Engine25 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictoryLeo 146 Posted May 23, 2015 Kinda like the idea of Bossk with Ion Cannon, Greedo, Two Tacticians and Inertial Dampeners with four Bugzappers now... Bossk wants Mangler for his pilot ability to activate. With Ion Cannon that's never going to happen when you use it. I like the crit monster possibility with Bossk and Mangler, but throw the 1 damage ion, have Greedo flip it up and then get two stress tokens. It'd be fun to screw around with in a casual game. If you want to use that combo, it'll probably be best to use another pilot. That's no fun. I just imagine Greedo and Bossk as the Star Wars version of the Odd Couple. Then they both eject in the Pup and are crammed in arguing... HI-larious! 1 Rhoaran reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forensicus 883 Posted May 23, 2015 I would say that we pretty clearly don't know anything, except that there are some dotted lines on the tile. The reference card that accompanies the Tooth may simply call it an auxiliary arc, or it may have more specific text that precludes upgrades like Tactician from working. Based on that "logic"/refusal to deduct that existing rules/description for auxiliary arc will be correct even though we (correct) do not have the rules/insert in hand (which makes life hard for any/all RAW) then I guess we don't know what the meaning of those different colored numbers on the base and pilot cards indicates either?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIE Pilot 3,501 Posted May 23, 2015 There's also the Firespray's Aux Arc symbol on the YV's primary, but over the forward 180 rather than front 45 and back 45. Enhanced pictures on the previous page. Waaagh's right in that we don't know until we see the rules insert/FFG say it in a spoiler article, but the evidence is pretty strong at this point. 5 Forensicus, MortalPlague, Rodafowa and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WonderWAAAGH 7,153 Posted May 23, 2015 I would say that we pretty clearly don't know anything, except that there are some dotted lines on the tile. The reference card that accompanies the Tooth may simply call it an auxiliary arc, or it may have more specific text that precludes upgrades like Tactician from working. Based on that "logic"/refusal to deduct that existing rules/description for auxiliary arc will be correct even though we (correct) do not have the rules/insert in hand (which makes life hard for any/all RAW) then I guess we don't know what the meaning of those different colored numbers on the base and pilot cards indicates either?? I'm sorry, was that a question? I only speak English, so I'm sure you'll forgive my apparent confusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forensicus 883 Posted May 23, 2015 I would say that we pretty clearly don't know anything, except that there are some dotted lines on the tile. The reference card that accompanies the Tooth may simply call it an auxiliary arc, or it may have more specific text that precludes upgrades like Tactician from working. Based on that "logic"/refusal to deduct that existing rules/description for auxiliary arc will be correct even though we (correct) do not have the rules/insert in hand (which makes life hard for any/all RAW) then I guess we don't know what the meaning of those different colored numbers on the base and pilot cards indicates either?? I'm sorry, was that a question? I only speak English, so I'm sure you'll forgive my apparent confusion. You are forgiven and once again proves your overall likability Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PewPewPew 1,083 Posted May 23, 2015 I don't think "uses existing rules" is that much of a leap. Are there existing rules for a 180 degree arc? There are existing rules for auxiliary arcs which include how to identify them. Identifications which match the spoiled yv-666. 3 Forensicus, Rapture and darthlurker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WonderWAAAGH 7,153 Posted May 23, 2015 I would say that we pretty clearly don't know anything, except that there are some dotted lines on the tile. The reference card that accompanies the Tooth may simply call it an auxiliary arc, or it may have more specific text that precludes upgrades like Tactician from working. Based on that "logic"/refusal to deduct that existing rules/description for auxiliary arc will be correct even though we (correct) do not have the rules/insert in hand (which makes life hard for any/all RAW) then I guess we don't know what the meaning of those different colored numbers on the base and pilot cards indicates either?? I'm sorry, was that a question? I only speak English, so I'm sure you'll forgive my apparent confusion. You are forgiven and once again proves your overall likability I get that you don't like me, and I really could not care less. To be perfectly honest, you are well and truly beneath my notice, and I have no idea who you are let alone why you feel the need to escalate to an unnecessary level of antagonism over a simple observation. You can debate the veracity of my posts, or you can continue to pursue this overly personal judgment of my character. If you choose the latter, I will simply report you from here on out rather than feed your sickness. Have a nice day. 1 Forensicus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted May 23, 2015 Anyone else think a YV-666 with a side of Bossk sounds like a breakfast order? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PewPewPew 1,083 Posted May 23, 2015 Protip: Never order your food by number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarmanSkir 23 Posted May 25, 2015 If the dial has any speed of K-turn, and you can fit 3 in a list, all you have to do is space them apart a bit, fly them up the center, then k-turn, repeat, repeat, repeat.. With the 180 degree arc maneuvering isn't required. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ficklegreendice 34,363 Posted May 25, 2015 And then get murdered by small base jousters and obstructions while fat turrets pick you off one by one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRealStarkiller 3,446 Posted May 26, 2015 Any idea when there will be the next official wave 7 spoiler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YwingAce 2,546 Posted May 26, 2015 Protip: Never order your food by number. I'd like a 666 with some fries. No I'm not part of the Illuminati. Now there's an FBI watch on my house :S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites