Robin Graves 6,054 Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Always two there are: one with special powers and a glowing sword, who the story revolves around, and one without all that fancy stuff, who looks rugged and badass. Luke and Han Vader and Boba. Edited May 1, 2015 by Robin Graves 1 KCDodger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conandoodle 1,817 Posted May 2, 2015 Always two there are: one with special powers and a glowing sword, who the story revolves around, and one without all that fancy stuff, who looks rugged and badass. Luke and Han Vader and Boba. Tango and Cash, Riggs and Murtaugh, Calvin and Hobbes, Turner and Hooch, Barnes and Noble, Bed and Breakfasts, etc... 2 VanorDM and Robin Graves reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,838 Posted May 2, 2015 Lucy and Ethel. 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted May 2, 2015 Randall and Hopkirk 1 Baaa reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toqtamish 3,643 Posted May 2, 2015 Kirk and Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conandoodle 1,817 Posted May 2, 2015 Bacon and Eggs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyrios Mirage 588 Posted May 2, 2015 Eggs and Bacon Eggs, Sausage, and Bacon Eggs and Spam... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conandoodle 1,817 Posted May 2, 2015 I think we got off-topic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Graves 6,054 Posted May 3, 2015 There is a topic? 1 Kyrios Mirage reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conandoodle 1,817 Posted May 3, 2015 There is a topic? There WAS a topic. And back to it. Although Battlefront may contain a story .. Can a game be considered canon? Now, I understand that a game like Mass Effect can be as it is driven by a plot. But Battlefront?? It's just two armies battling it out. The campaign in previous games is little more than a trainer for the Multiplayer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,838 Posted May 3, 2015 For video games that have a story, the property owners can declare that a particular iteration of that story is canon. For something like battlefront, it would be more like "the battle depicted in the video game canonically happened, and this side won, but the specific details that were under player control aren't." 1 Robin Graves reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight Leader 424 Posted May 5, 2015 It's Tattooine. And it does have a campaign. http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/04/star-wars-battlefront-producer-trailer-debunking-misconceptions.html Theres also a Battlefront novel coming. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battlefront:_Twilight_Company Someone at EA/DICE is lying. An artical on ign has a rep from EA/DICE saying that the game can't be canon because their is no story. Some of the scenery is canon and the equipment in it are authentic, making that canon. Now, the eagle eyes at Jedi Bibliothek have spotted a handy timeline in the Amazon preview for the upcoming paperback edition of Star Wars: A New Dawn. If you bothered to actually read the article I linked, the visual timeline is actually in the preview for the paperback edition of SW: A New Dawn. I think someone said that a EA or DICE rep said that all the heros are universal. I red it, its out of date and doesn't reflect statements. Made by SW writer made after the novel was created. The jist of it is, legends is 2ndary canon and 2ndary canon doesn't equal non-canon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baaa 1,196 Posted May 5, 2015 Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased). 1 Robin Graves reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) The jist of it is, legends is 2ndary canon and 2ndary canon doesn't equal non-canon. Legends is no different really than the EU was. It wasn't really ever canon, unless George decided to use part of it in one of his stories, such as a movie or TV show. Parts of Legends may become canon, but it is not canon itself, because no one has to pay any attention to what happened in it, unless they chose to use part of it in a canon story. That doesn't make the Legends part canon, it just means something that was part of Legends is now also part of Canon. Edited May 5, 2015 by VanorDM 4 Conandoodle, Vigil, Jo Jo and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight Leader 424 Posted May 5, 2015 EU was canon back when their was a GTCN rating system, before SW was sold too Disney it wass tated that in the end all the mediums are part of the SW "saga", anything that is in a saga is without question canon, that goes for non-sw material as well. Most recently after Disney bought SW the writters for multiple SW projects have said ether its all still there, eu, its still canon untill contradicted and even then it is only the fine details that are non-canon, OR the writter will fix any contradictions new material causes in reguards too old material. Old EU is secondary canon class A, canon till contradicted andd oesnt require refrences from primary canon too be canon althoulgh that will change it to primary canon. The only things LFL/Disney made non-canon too the SW primary universe, but not the SW multiverse, was the SWoR add-ons. They confirmed that days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sithborg 11,644 Posted May 5, 2015 Someone at EA/DICE is lying. An artical on ign has a rep from EA/DICE saying that the game can't be canon because their is no story. Some of the scenery is canon and the equipment in it are authentic, making that canon. You realise that the game makers don't necessarily have to write the story, right? The game likely doesn't have a story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Jo 4,808 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) BKL you are going to hate it this fall. Your precious EU, Secondary canon, legends, ramblings, whatever the hell you want to call it, are all going to be contradicted... sorry. Edited May 5, 2015 by Jo Jo 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sithborg 11,644 Posted May 5, 2015 You have no idea how bad I want Rey to be Luke's daughter, just for the sheer meltdown EU holdouts will have. 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted May 6, 2015 You have no idea how bad I want Rey to be Luke's daughter, just for the sheer meltdown EU holdouts will have. I'm hoping for the Emperor to have stayed dead for much the same reason. If he stayed dead, then that will wipe out a huge chunk of the EU. When 'history' is based on something that didn't actually happen, we call it fiction. If the Emperor never comes back, then that means all the stories that involved him are effectively non-canon, because the whole premise for them falls apart. From what little we do know, it seems likely that I'll get my wish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIE Pilot 3,501 Posted May 6, 2015 I'm hoping for the Emperor to have stayed dead for much the same reason. Confirmed by Ian McDiarmind. Palpatine dies for good when he's thrown into the DSII's reactor. 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted May 6, 2015 Confirmed by Ian McDiarmind. Palpatine dies for good when he's thrown into the DSII's reactor. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIE Pilot 3,501 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) George Lucas is very firm on it. He's not a fan of Dark Empire or at least the infinitely resurrecting Palpyloop. Edited May 6, 2015 by TIE Pilot 1 VanorDM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Rainbow 355 Posted May 6, 2015 I'm pretty sure he survives in the EU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIE Pilot 3,501 Posted May 6, 2015 He does in the EU. The new canon he dies in RotJ permanently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted May 6, 2015 He does in the EU. The new canon he dies in RotJ permanently. Which makes a ton of the EU stuff non-canon. Which doesn't mean we won't see some of those characters in the new canon. For example the whole Thrawn Trilogy will most likely be rendered non-canon with Aftermath. But that doesn't mean Mara Jade or Thrawn can't still show up in the new canon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites