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So it's a week later. What do you think about the game now?

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Just curious what you think or feel about the game now that we've had some time to let everything sink in. Here you're welcome to rant, rave or anything in between. I'm gonna just watch. But I'll start.

I liked the idea of a new game system to begin with, and I still do.

What about you?

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First I was shocked, than became corious, and now I'm excited and hopeful. I think of it not as WFRP3, but as "the other Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay" - it is both "Warhammer Fantasy" and a "Roleplaying game", but different from what I've known as WFRP. I'm already used to it, that many times a new edition of an RPG is a different product, not an improved reprint of the previous one.

I have my WFRP2 books, and a little ongoing campaign, and I'm happy with it. I'll also have my WFRP3 box(es), and so far, I like the stuff, and my players are also excited. Can't wait to put my hands on the stuff. My only problem is, that the box seems to be a bit huge at first glance, but I'll surely find a way, to transport it easily to the other half of the city.

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I feel the same as before:

>Upset that WFRPv2 has ended, because there were several books I wanted to be printed.

>Upset that FFG would not tell the fans that WFRPv3 was in the mix, even after some very strong rumors.

>I have a lot of concerns over the new game, which nobody has done anything to allay.

>I am willing to keep an open mind and may well try the new game.

>I still think this game could go either way, it could remain true to the grim and perilous WFRP world, attract new fans and be a fantastic game or it may well be the final death of WFRP.

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Foolishboy said:

 

>Upset that FFG would not tell the fans that WFRPv3 was in the mix, even after some very strong rumors.

 

 

It's okay, that there is a period of secrecy around the development of a new game, but telling us, that it's done and coming soon, a quarter year before it's release is just wrong. Especially, with that "Rat Catcher's Tale" campaign, which surely caused confusion and sleepless nights among fans - even more, than the dice pools and quick-reference cards...

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I was initially unimpressed with the dice and cards, fearing a DnD 4 clone, but having looked at it more closely I believe that the system isn't anything like 4ed and has some interesting possibilities. It could be a great system, depends on the details.

I still have some other concerns, the most important one being character creation and the number of careers.

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I'm still very optimistic about the game and will definately buy it.

I am also looking forward to some more hard facts about the game and hope FFG will start spoiling us soon, so rumours don't take over again.

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First, I was happy to see that mystery resolved.

Second, I'm always extremely interested about anything that concerns WFRP, so my curiousity knew no bounds, although I have had and still have certain reservations as regards the v3 playability.

After I've learned that we'll have to wait till the end of the year (and considering FFG trend to be rather too optimistic as regards their release schedule - probably even more), I have had to switch my curiousity to standby mode. I only hope there will be many previews to discuss.

And up to that time- it's just a lot of rant, nothing else.

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Apathetic, still not interested in purchasing it but I can see why its been done, even if not why it was done the way it was.

 

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I was shocked, now I am curious. I want to see an independent review of the game.

I still think FFG should have their marketing school money back though. Keep yer promisses!

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Funnily enough, given that there is no new information that actually tells us anything, I still feel the same.

Marketing wise I seriously doubt this was the best way to do it. I'm certainly not too sold on the idea of the new system from (let's face it) what little we have been told.

I still feel we need to see this game in action (or better yet play a demo), but if it was only a prototype shown at GenCon and the finished product is still at least a quarter away (which given FFG's past performance, will most likely be extended. Not a complaint, the finished products are often of awesome quality and I would much rather wait for awesome than get chaff quickly) I can't see either happening for a long time.

Shame really. As I have said to one of my RL mates who frequents these forums, if after playing this new version I find that it is great, is a much better way of roleplaying in the warhammer world and is a fine example of awesome, I will staunchly advocate it to everyone I know (and some I don't!).

But, I will not spend nearly £90 (cost to import to the UK at the moment, who knows how much it'll be to buy from a retailer over here when it is released) to try it. This is still a high price, no ifs, no buts, no "consider the content". I cannot afford to spend that much in one go at the moment. Please consider that to play a game of Dark Heresy (assuming I don't already have all the books) I would only have to spend £35 to £40 and my mates and I could play a game. No, we do not NEED to buy any other book to play a campaign, ALL other books are supplementary. Yes all the other books will add to the game and quite possible increase our enjoyment, but, bottom line, I do not NEED to spend over £40 to play a game of Dark Heresy.

Hell, I don't actually NEED to spend any money, as I can download a couple of demo adventures off the net.

Don't get me wrong, I will scrimp and scrounge to save £90 to buy a game I know I like. But to try a new game that I have reservations about ... 

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Lupinorc said:

I still feel we need to see this game in action (or better yet play a demo), but if it was only a prototype shown at GenCon and the finished product is still at least a quarter away (which given FFG's past performance, will most likely be extended. Not a complaint, the finished products are often of awesome quality and I would much rather wait for awesome than get chaff quickly) I can't see either happening for a long time.

I wish we could get a clear story on this, I have seen at least two people post they saw people playing it at Gencon.

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I was shocked at the change when it was announced and since then I've not been convinced that it's going to be anything my group or I will enjoy. The deception around the release of the game has moved FFG even farther down my list of companies I'll buy from.

 

 

(deception)

Emails sent since the aquisition of the lisencse asking about reprinting of books responeded to with "We are going to reprint some but not all. And we can't announce which ones until Marketing gives the go ahead." This was the response I got every 4 months until the release of the books on PDF when it changed to "We are not going to reprint any of them." And then there Jay Little saying that more is in the works leading I and many others it seems to believe there were new 2nd Ed books coming out.

 

 

I'll probably stop in again in a month or so and see if anything's changed otherwise if you're looking for me I can be found over on the Kenzer Boards.

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Yep, I strongly recommend anny official FFG people who reads this to get some users and make a review of a playing session soon. :-)

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Oh definitely excited from the start. It seems exactly like the kind of rpg experience my friends and I were looking for (less book-keeping, potentially streamlined combat system).

The lack of a halfling character race doesn't bother, nor does it bother my players. HOWEVER, after reading all the posts defending halflings and what kinds of roleplaying possibilities are possible with them... I'm very curious, and am having an urge to try them out next time I play WFRP 2.

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Im just as ambivalent towards it as I was from the beginning. It could be fun, it could be crap. I can't say yet, I'll have to wait until it shows up. But suffice to say that it has awoken more interest in my than the two previous editions have...

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 Even as a nonplayer of Warhammer I was initially excited and intrigued just hearing the rumors of v3.  The GenCon reports amplified this as I really like the sound of the cards, dice, etc for fascilitating a streamlined feel.  My two potential game groups are both four counting myself so the news of it being designed around 3 players and a GM, whether true or not, really REALLY excite me.  And assuming quality materials, as I would from FFG, the price tag is very bearable.

The catching point for me will be the tone that FFG gives Warhammer. I dont' have much time these days for campaign creation and such so I'll be very interested in whatever adventure materials they put out and hope that they're not fully on rails.  If the tone trends towards high fantasy of heroic nature, I'll probably not buy in.  So I'll have to wait and see the campaign adventure they mentioned before deciding on buying into the system at all.

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Artaxerxes said:

I am hoping to see English spelling and not American, dont you dare leave out those U's FFG!

Sadly I think WFRPv3 may well feature the Color system of magic, dreamed up by a rubbish Elf.

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 Myself, I'm still on the v1,5-fence. It better be pretty darn mindbogglingly good if I'm buying it.

But I look forward to seeing it, and it's supplements.

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Reading about the details available (not a lot) it seems the mechanic does not offer the freedom our group likes. So I will be checking what are the first supplements coming out. If FFG starts with the "WotC act" of updating all the old books, I wont need to buy any of them.

On the other hand, if the supplements turn out to be good I will have to see if changing them to v2 is too much of a hassle. If not, I'll start buying them as usual.

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I have been excited from the very beginning. And after watching these videos, I just cannnot wait to get my hands on this new edition.

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So it's been two weeks since I was last at the FFG site.  So I just learned about this tonight.

My first reaction:  WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My second reaction: Is this a true 3e? Or just a hybrid "starter pack?"

My third reaction upon figuring out it's apparently a true 3e:  What was wrong with 2e?

Honestly, I don't care if this new edition of WFRP is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I'm not buying into it. Thanks to the D&D 3e and 4e fiasco, I'm finally seeing a lot more "It's gotta be D&D or nothing" players finally willing to try WFRP.  One of the  selling points has been that WFRP 2e is only four years old or so, and with the track record of GW, even if it went out of print, it was likely to be stable for a few years more to come.

And it was reasonably inexpensive to buy into.  Which this new edition doesn't look like it's going to be.

I'm not going to sit  here and even attempt to trash the new version, because frankly, there isn't enough out there to know much about it. And I'm not even going to bother to learn about it. It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, the people who decided to release a new edition of WFRP now have apparently been living in complete media seclusion for the last two years, and were blissfully unaware of the huge rift 4e has wrought among D&D players - because they're doing the same **** thing to WFRP.

As far as I'm concerned, 2e is WFRP. I'm going to do what I did to get through the drought that was WFRP when 1e went out of print - buy a few extra copies so that new players have a book to borrow, and/or possibly even buy from me if they can't manage to locate their own copy.  And I'll happily play 2e until/if WFRP 4e comes about, and see if it's any good.

 

Bad move FFG, bad move. It's too soon for a new edition. The funds I was setting aside for Runebound and Descent and all their expansions is now going towards every used copy of WFRP 2e I can find, along with a few copies of some other books, like the career compendium.

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 Well the videos certainly helped to stoke the embers of my enthusiasm.  I originally wanted to wait for the first adventure campaign to be released to make my decision.  I'd still like  to wait on it, but I was certainly impressed with what I saw in the videos...

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