Examining the Scatter Defense Token

[Alpha Xg1 455]

Hi guys,

 

After playing a few rounds of this most awesomest of awesome games - far out can't wait for Wave 1 to hit!! Starfighter engagement will truly become a sub-game of its own! Hehe, I need to seek clarification on when the Scatter Defense Token (so far on Howlrunner) comes into play.

 

At the moment, I've been playing it as:

 

1 X-Wing Squadron is engaged with Howlrunner

 

X-Wings attack Howlrunner with 4 x Blue Dice

 

X-Wings throw 3 hit and 1 accuracy result.

 

At this point, (if they choose to) do the X-Wings use the accuracy result to immediately 'block' Howlrunner's Scatter Defense Token?

 

To date, I haven't been able to use Howlrunner's 'Scatter' in any of my games, because of Accuracy rolls. Hehe.

 

Please clarify? Thanks guys!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kac 146]

Hi guys,

 

After playing a few rounds of this most awesomest of awesome games - far out can't wait for Wave 1 to hit!! Starfighter engagement will truly become a sub-game of its own! Hehe, I need to seek clarification on when the Scatter Defense Token (so far on Howlrunner) comes into play.

 

At the moment, I've been playing it as:

 

1 X-Wing Squadron is engaged with Howlrunner

 

X-Wings attack Howlrunner with 4 x Blue Dice

 

X-Wings throw 3 hit and 1 accuracy result.

 

At this point, (if they choose to) do the X-Wings use the accuracy result to immediately 'block' Howlrunner's Scatter Defense Token?

 

To date, I haven't been able to use Howlrunner's 'Scatter' in any of my games, because of Accuracy rolls. Hehe.

 

Please clarify? Thanks guys!

Looking at the rule reference under "Attacks," Spend Accuracy Icons comes at step 3, which is before Spend Defense Tokens, which is step 4. So, my conclusion is the accuracy result can eliminate (temporarily) the use of the Scatter token.

[wjgo 98]

 

Looking at the rule reference under "Attacks," Spend Accuracy Icons comes at step 3, which is before Spend Defense Tokens, which is step 4. So, my conclusion is the accuracy result can eliminate (temporarily) the use of the Scatter token.

 

 

Correct.  In fact, on the last page of the rules is the Quick Reference.  It clearly says to spend the accuracy results before defense tokens.

Edited April 5, 2015 by wjgo

[Alpha Xg1 455]

Awesome!

 

Thank you all for your collective thoughts.

[Mohdri 26]

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

[Alpha Xg1 455]

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

 

Yes, standard rules for spending exhausted Defense Tokens apply.

 

But when Accuracy Results are thrown by the opponent, they may elect to immediately block the Scatter Defense Token (or any other Defense Token) one for one.

 

Edit: For consistency.

Edited April 5, 2015 by Alpha Xg1

[MyronMagic 19]

 

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

 

Yes, standard rules for spending exhausted Defense Tokens apply.

 

But when Accuracy Results are thrown by the opponent, they may elect to immediately block the Scatter Defense Token (or any other Defense Token) one for one.

 

Edit: For consistency.

 

So if I have an exhausted scatter token (red) and an enemy rolls an accuracy can they stop me from burning it permanently?

[wtfboar 47]

 

 

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

 

Yes, standard rules for spending exhausted Defense Tokens apply.

 

But when Accuracy Results are thrown by the opponent, they may elect to immediately block the Scatter Defense Token (or any other Defense Token) one for one.

 

Edit: For consistency.

 

So if I have an exhausted scatter token (red) and an enemy rolls an accuracy can they stop me from burning it permanently?

 

Yes that is correct. An accuracy can stop you from using an exhausted token

[MyronMagic 19]

 

 

 

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

 

Yes, standard rules for spending exhausted Defense Tokens apply.

 

But when Accuracy Results are thrown by the opponent, they may elect to immediately block the Scatter Defense Token (or any other Defense Token) one for one.

 

Edit: For consistency.

 

So if I have an exhausted scatter token (red) and an enemy rolls an accuracy can they stop me from burning it permanently?

 

Yes that is correct. An accuracy can stop you from using an exhausted token

 

Thank-you for the quick response! 

[Ghost Dancer 401]

Can't you still spend the exhausted defense token at the expense of losing it for the rest of the game?

 

Just to be clear, Accuracy does not exhaust a token, it completely stops the player from using it during that attack (and only that attack), regardless of whether the token is exhausted or not. The only way to prevent Accuracy (at least for now) is Electronic Counter Measures.

Edited July 5, 2015 by Ghost Dancer

[Lyraeus 4,759]

Also note Intel Officer's can target squadron tokens. Great for Nebulon-B shots at Howlrunner

Edited July 5, 2015 by Lyraeus

[Viper827 0]

I didn't think crit or accuracy die roles could be used by fighter sqns

[DWRR 898]

Just critical hits.

[Intys Rule 148]

Crits can be used by squadrons that are Bombers or Darth Vader's unique ability.

 

Accuracy can also be used by squadrons when shooting against named squadrons.  That's the best way to negate their Scatter defense token 

Accuracy is obviously useless at no-named squadrons.

[Viper827 0]

Thank you chaps

[Intys Rule 148]

Ooooo!!

 

Squadrons can also use Accuracy results on ships.  It's normally useless as squadrons normally only have one attack dice, but don't forget that the B-Wing has a blue and black anti-ship attack!  So it can roll a blue accuracy and a black crit/hit result resulting in much, much pain!

[Lyraeus 4,759]

Yup, no more brace Mister GSD/VSD

[RockNBurn 0]

From the rulebook

"For each accuracy icon rolled, he can choose one of the defender’s defense tokens; the chosen token cannot be spent during this attack."

 

From what I understand, you chose a token, not a type of token. Howlrunner have 2 Scatter tokens, so you need 2 accuracy to block both tokens. With one accuracy you may block only one token, so she can still use the scatter action. Now, if one token is exhausted, you may use the accuracy to force the player to discard that token by blocking the unexhausted one, or receive a hit.

[clontroper5 4,233]

From the rulebook

"For each accuracy icon rolled, he can choose one of the defender’s defense tokens; the chosen token cannot be spent during this attack."

 

From what I understand, you chose a token, not a type of token. Howlrunner have 2 Scatter tokens, so you need 2 accuracy to block both tokens. With one accuracy you may block only one token, so she can still use the scatter action. Now, if one token is exhausted, you may use the accuracy to force the player to discard that token by blocking the unexhausted one, or receive a hit.

howlrunner only has 1 scatter. Otherwise you are correct. I.e. it takes 2 ACC's to block Luke's brace.

But howlrunner has 1 scatter and 1 brace so you only need 1 ACC's to block the scatter

[RockNBurn 0]

Oops, my bad. Ignore my previous comment. 

[Vogons 195]

I had been doing it wrong and not allowing squads to use accurasies  at all.