Sluppie 0 Posted July 21, 2009 ..And if it doesn't, why not? So for reference, here's the card text of Pinocchio: "LIAR: You may discard this card from your Friend Area and declare a card name during your Action Phase. If you do so, your opponent reveals his/her hand and discards all cards with the name you declared." So going with that, let's say you draw your cards and somehow end up with two copies of Pinocchio in your hand. Your opponent is holding one card in his hand and you have no idea what it is. You play one Pinocchio. You declare any card name... doesn't matter what. You can call "Simba" on a player running a Dark Deck for all it's worth. You declare the name and discard Pinocchio at the same time. Then he shows you his hand. Basically his one card. Let's say it's Ultima Weapon, but it could be anything. You now know exactly what he has in his hand. So you've discarded one Pinocchio, which means there's no Pinocchio in the field and one Pinocchio in your hand. It's still your turn, and you're still in the Action phase. You play your second Pinocchio. You call out "Ultima Weapon" or whatever it is. He now discards the one awesome card that he was holding on to and you discard your Pinocchio. Basically works 100% of the time. Is there some ruling I don't know about or rule that I've overlooked that prevents this? I'm not asking if it's cheap or dirty. I'm just asking if it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayToTheDawn 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Sluppie said: ..And if it doesn't, why not? So for reference, here's the card text of Pinocchio: "LIAR: You may discard this card from your Friend Area and declare a card name during your Action Phase. If you do so, your opponent reveals his/her hand and discards all cards with the name you declared." So going with that, let's say you draw your cards and somehow end up with two copies of Pinocchio in your hand. Your opponent is holding one card in his hand and you have no idea what it is. You play one Pinocchio. You declare any card name... doesn't matter what. You can call "Simba" on a player running a Dark Deck for all it's worth. You declare the name and discard Pinocchio at the same time. Then he shows you his hand. Basically his one card. Let's say it's Ultima Weapon, but it could be anything. You now know exactly what he has in his hand. So you've discarded one Pinocchio, which means there's no Pinocchio in the field and one Pinocchio in your hand. It's still your turn, and you're still in the Action phase. You play your second Pinocchio. You call out "Ultima Weapon" or whatever it is. He now discards the one awesome card that he was holding on to and you discard your Pinocchio. Basically works 100% of the time. Is there some ruling I don't know about or rule that I've overlooked that prevents this? I'm not asking if it's cheap or dirty. I'm just asking if it works. Welcome to the current Meta, how nice of you to finally join us.... this is why every GOOD deck runs three Pinnochios. He's one of the best cards in the game, because of this amazing hand control ability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sluppie 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Gee... and a while ago I told someone in the deck thread that his 3x Pinocchio cards were dead weight. I guess I should take that back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Choitz 0 Posted July 21, 2009 It's even more entertainin if you have a Herc in hand along with three Pinocchios as well. Bounce a heartless you don't like (Behemoth, persay), discard Pinocchio, declarin Behemoth. Look at the rest of their hand, 'n play the other Pinocchios as you so wish, now knowin the cards they have. It really can rip up a person's hand quite easily 'n be quite entertainin to boot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayToTheDawn 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Yes, that too is a pretty funny trick sir...and why WRs can run 3x Pinnochio as well. Another reason why, I believe, he's the second best card in the game right now (behind the King and barring any AMAZING Set IV Cards) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sluppie 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Well in case I ever run against either of you in a tourny, I'm going to play Pinocchio and then declare "Pinocchio" just so you can't pull that kind of stuff on me. At least for that turn, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Choitz 0 Posted July 22, 2009 Heheh, believe you me, it's been a fun trick to play. Knock out your opponent's hand, challenge them in the face, whack away at their health.. quite useful when you know you're in control. Though, I must give kudos to my friend. He's the one who thought up the Hercnocchio trick. Never saw it comin, 'n it tore my hand apart, then rip'd two HP from the followin challenge. I then proceeded to slam him with a constant Soul Sephiroth Eater for the remainin 3 turns. He didn't like me after that. It was pretty funny, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeede2 0 Posted July 22, 2009 What about comboing Abu with Pinocchio? Cameron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecomics21 0 Posted July 22, 2009 To be honest, that's all Abu is good for, so drawing it when you don't have a pinochio just makes it a dead draw. Its easier to just run 3 Pinochios and draw multiples. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas2 0 Posted July 22, 2009 True, and most of the time you would know what's frequents each type of deck so you have a easier time picking something off the first time and then following up picking off the other. Efficency at it's best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sluppie 0 Posted July 22, 2009 Ecomics21 said: To be honest, that's all Abu is good for, so drawing it when you don't have a pinochio just makes it a dead draw. Its easier to just run 3 Pinochios and draw multiples. QFT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites