Anti-squadron attacks.

[KovuTalli 178]

So reading the rules - am I right in thinking that if a ship performs an anti squadron attack, say the side arc of the Neb-B if there are 3 Squadrons within that arc I get to shoot at all 3 of them with that attack (One after the other)? As in the rule book it states you may "Target one enemy hull zone, or one or more squadrons"

Edited March 28, 2015 by KovuTalli

[Barty 11]

Yes, you may attack all Squadrons within that arc that are legal targets for your shots. Which is why the Nebulon is fantastic at being an anti fighter. 

[Deathseed 1,705]

Learn To Play

 

Page 15:

 

Attacking Squadrons with a Ship

[KovuTalli 178]

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

 

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

[Beatty 1,730]

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

Edited March 28, 2015 by Beatty

[Deathseed 1,705]

 

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

 

 

What he said.

 

I was quoting the name of the rule book.

 

Please redirect your outrage to FFG for telling you to Learn To Play

[anfauglir 31]

Also, it is one 'attack', but you fire on each squadron individually... Just mentioning it as I missed that for the first 15 mins m'self...

[wildkatze69 35]

The question is what happens if you concentrate fire. As the additional dice is rolled AFTER the attack do you roll it against each squad or only one squad?

[MaverickNZ 591]

The question is what happens if you concentrate fire. As the additional dice is rolled AFTER the attack do you roll it against each squad or only one squad?

 

Only one squad, so you would save it for using against a Hero squadron, or a squadron of really nasty bombers, or your "second" attack that targets a capital ship.

[anfauglir 31]

You resolve each shot against squadrons one-by-one, so CF token or dial will still only affect one dice

[wildkatze69 35]

That's what I thought.

[KovuTalli 178]

 

 

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

 

 

What he said.

 

I was quoting the name of the rule book.

 

Please redirect your outrage to FFG for telling you to Learn To Play

 

 

Ah my bad I take back what I said about being a ****, sorry. Happens when reading text on the internet sometimes - "Mistranslation" ha

[Chris Taylor 26]

Yeah with two reference books we need some initials for page quotes

RR - rules reference book

LTP - learn to play reference book

That might avoid offending people

[InvisibleCalm 157]

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

What he said.

I was quoting the name of the rule book.

Please redirect your outrage to FFG for telling you to Learn To Play

Next game they make I bet they'll simply title their manual "RTFM"... I'm sure that wont cause any miss-understandings in the forums. Edited March 29, 2015 by InvisibleCalm

[Deathseed 1,705]

 

 

 

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

 

 

What he said.

 

I was quoting the name of the rule book.

 

Please redirect your outrage to FFG for telling you to Learn To Play

 

 

Ah my bad I take back what I said about being a ****, sorry. Happens when reading text on the internet sometimes - "Mistranslation" ha

 

 

 No harm, no foul.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers Barty just wanted to confirm this.

@Deathseed, well aren't you just a fun person. The game has been out all of 2 days and it is easier to miss/misread a part in the text I just wanted to confirm I was right. No need to be a **** about it

He wasn't telling you to learn to play he was quoting the page number from the "Learn To Play" guide from the box set.

Easy mistake to make but I thought I'd point it out.

What he said.

I was quoting the name of the rule book.

Please redirect your outrage to FFG for telling you to Learn To Play

Next game they make I bet they'll simply title their manual "RTFM"... I'm sure that wont cause any miss-understandings in the forums.

 

 

And LOL

[Overdawg 349]

So I have a related question.  When firing at squadrons it says:

 

"When a ship attacks a squadron, it can perform one attack against each squadron inside the firing arc and at attack range of the attacking hull zone. Each attack is resolved separately"

 

and then later the rules state

 

"The attacker’s armament indicates the color and number of dice that can be used during an attack. Anti-squadron armament is used when attacking a squadron. Battery armament is used when attacking a ship." 

 

So my question is do you use the range of the longest range weapon on that fire arc or do you always use the Blue range since that is what the anti-squadron die is?

[keroko 492]

So I have a related question.  When firing at squadrons it says:

 

"When a ship attacks a squadron, it can perform one attack against each squadron inside the firing arc and at attack range of the attacking hull zone. Each attack is resolved separately"

 

and then later the rules state

 

"The attacker’s armament indicates the color and number of dice that can be used during an attack. Anti-squadron armament is used when attacking a squadron. Battery armament is used when attacking a ship." 

 

So my question is do you use the range of the longest range weapon on that fire arc or do you always use the Blue range since that is what the anti-squadron die is?

 

 

As long as the dice depicted in the anti-squadron armament are blue, you use blue range.

Edited March 29, 2015 by keroko

[rowdyoctopus 1,409]

So I have a related question.  When firing at squadrons it says:

 

"When a ship attacks a squadron, it can perform one attack against each squadron inside the firing arc and at attack range of the attacking hull zone. Each attack is resolved separately"

 

and then later the rules state

 

"The attacker’s armament indicates the color and number of dice that can be used during an attack. Anti-squadron armament is used when attacking a squadron. Battery armament is used when attacking a ship." 

 

So my question is do you use the range of the longest range weapon on that fire arc or do you always use the Blue range since that is what the anti-squadron die is?

 

I'm not familiar with any previews or leaked information for unreleased ships.  Everything that comes in the core set has blue dice for their anti-squadron armament.

 

Whenever a ship attacks, no matter the target, they can attack at the maximum range allowed by their dice, and they can roll all available dice at the range they are firing at.

 

So right now, all ships that are out can target all squadrons at medium or close range, and can use their blue anti-squadron dice against them.

[anfauglir 31]

The possible card released for Vader in his TIE has an anti-squadron of 3 blue and 1 black, so I expect other ships to follow with black dice for AS armament. I can't imagine black dice being nice for the recipient...

[Vlad3theImpaler 428]

The possible card released for Vader in his TIE has an anti-squadron of 3 blue and 1 black, so I expect other ships to follow with black dice for AS armament. I can't imagine black dice being nice for the recipient...

Actually, against fighters, black dice are less useful than blue dice, since you don't count the critical icons as damage.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Vlad3theImpaler

[MaverickNZ 591]

 

The possible card released for Vader in his TIE has an anti-squadron of 3 blue and 1 black, so I expect other ships to follow with black dice for AS armament. I can't imagine black dice being nice for the recipient...

Actually, against fighters, black dice are less useful than blue dice, since you don't count the critical icons as damage.

 

 

The only crit results on black dice are on sides with hit results though (hit + crit), so even ignoring the crit (and second hit "count" it would cause) they still hit 75% odd of the time I think it was. We worked out the stats due to the A-Wing having a black die against capital ships

Edited March 30, 2015 by MaverickNZ

[caelenvasius 197]

And if my sources are correct for the Vader spoiler, his pilot ability is that, when attacking, his crits count as hits. So black dice just got a LOT more potent for him.

[Wes Janson 1,184]

Does the Concentrate Fire command work by adding a dice to your anti-squadron amount as well?

[MaxTeranous 206]

Does the Concentrate Fire command work by adding a dice to your anti-squadron amount as well?

 

Yes, but only against one squadron, you don't get the extra dice against all targetted squadrons in the arc.

[Wes Janson 1,184]

Following the logic that each attack against each squadron is a separate attack within a single attack action? That said, where does it say the concentrate fire command (Dial) only applies to a single attack and not all the attacks made that turn? Does it not apply to both attack actions made by the ship that turn? I ask because I have been looking through the rules reference, and I can't find anything limiting the order to one attack. Only the token is limited by what I can see.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Wes Janson