GenCon Threatens to Relocate

[All Shields Forward 1,917]

They will pay if enough celebs back out. Takai has announced he won't be attending anything in that state. I don't see geek culture taking kindly to this law. Or tech companies for that matter.

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

So GenCon has a contract until 2020 with their current Indiana location. Doubtful they'll back out and pay the breach of contract penalties.

That depends on the scale of the penalties. Not only will the controlling company be comparing those penalties to the amount of business they lose, but also to any offsetting benefits (e.g., tax breaks) a new host city might offer.

[Sithborg 11,644]

They will pay if enough celebs back out. Takai has announced he won't be attending anything in that state. I don't see geek culture taking kindly to this law. Or tech companies for that matter.

 

Which section of geek culture? From what I've observed, not every geek is socially progressive. 

[HungryWulf 178]

 

They will pay if enough celebs back out. Takai has announced he won't be attending anything in that state. I don't see geek culture taking kindly to this law. Or tech companies for that matter.

 

Which section of geek culture? From what I've observed, not every geek is socially progressive. 

 

Geek/Gamer culture is a broad spectrum, and you'll find all sorts of personalities within it, but since a lot of "geek culture" is made up of current and/or former outcasts, I would imagine there's more sympathy for others.

 

My (admittedly) anecdotal evidence points to people generally supporting GenCon's stance on this, and even being upset that their letter to the Indiana Senate wasn't stronger in threatening to break contract and leave Indianapolis.

[Dagonet 7,246]

The only thing I can say is that eventually the USA will be dragged kicking and screaming into the century of the fruitbat.

Why any modern nation would even dream of a law allowing people to say nicht fur Jude. or slegs fir blanke if you prefer. Inconceivable.

[Tekwych 270]

Assuming they do the smartest possible thing and base their decision on which major metro areas are closer to me (Manhattan, KS) than Indianapolis, that gives them the following cities to choose from:

• Minneapolis
• Chicago
• Louisville
• Memphis
• Dallas
• Santa Fe
• Denver
• Kansas City
• St. Louis

I'd be willing to make an exception for Albuquerque, since I've always wanted to go there. LA and San Diego are, unfortunately, too far out of the way.

 

Santa Fe does not have the infrastructure or airport to support any convention that might draw from out of state. Albuquerque could do it but it would take all of the cities convention space and leave no room for growth. I would love to have any major convention come here but I point out that, to my knowledge, there are a total of 5 FLGSs in the entire state, three in ABQ.

[VanorDM 11,599]

Why any modern nation would even dream of a law allowing people to say nicht fur Jude.

Because we are still a nation made up of individual states, that can create their own laws and regulations to one degree or another. Based a lot on the idea that if you don't like what your state does, you have the ability to move to one that suits you better.

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

The only thing I can say is that eventually the USA will be dragged kicking and screaming into the century of the fruitbat.

Er... The Century of the Fruitbat is nearly over, sir. Would you like the city to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the Century of the Fruitbat?

[Dagonet 7,246]

The only thing I can say is that eventually the USA will be dragged kicking and screaming into the century of the fruitbat.

Er... The Century of the Fruitbat is nearly over, sir. Would you like the city to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the Century of the Fruitbat?

Bay steps, baby steps Drumknott, you have to be dragged in before you're dragged out.

[Dagonet 7,246]

Why any modern nation would even dream of a law allowing people to say nicht fur Jude.

Because we are still a nation made up of individual states, that can create their own laws and regulations to one degree or another. Based a lot on the idea that if you don't like what your state does, you have the ability to move to one that suits you better.

Than what was all the hullabaloo with civil rights in the sixties. .

To an outsider like me this is exactly the same, allowing people to refuse people based on their sexuality is the same as refusing them on the colour of their skin, or their religion or nationality.

[VanorDM 11,599]

Than what was all the hullabaloo with civil rights in the sixties. .

That was about changing things both on the state and federal level. The federal government doesn't have nearly as much power here as it does in the UK or Germany.

[Dagonet 7,246]

But this is just basic human rights. There is no difference between a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because she's gay and a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because he is black.

Saying that you won't serve a Jew because you're a Christian? Who would dare? Apart from Mel Gibson that is

[Guest Andy1909]

Maybe the Gencon organisers can declare themselves Jedi and bail on the contract as keeping it would offend their religious beliefs. 

 

Personally I think they should move it to Amsterdam. Handy as it's a short flight away :-)

 

Or failing that, move it to a city that is on the total solar eclipse route for 2017 (it's a day after Gencon finishes)

 

Couple of points though

The Gamer/Geek community are not candidates for sainthood, remember Gamergate?

 

 And final thought, If you're defending this legislation you don't get to lecture other countries about civil rights.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Andy1909

[WonderWAAAGH 7,153]

But this is just basic human rights. There is no difference between a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because she's *** and a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because he is black.

Saying that you won't serve a Jew because you're a Christian? Who would dare? Apart from Mel Gibson that is

 

There is a difference, in their minds; the Bible tells them it's okay to despise homosexuals, and so they use that as justification for their native worldview.

[Dagonet 7,246]

But this is just basic human rights. There is no difference between a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because she's *** and a politician saying it is okay to refuse a customer because he is black.

Saying that you won't serve a Jew because you're a Christian? Who would dare? Apart from Mel Gibson that is

 

There is a difference, in their minds; the Bible tells them it's okay to despise homosexuals, and so they use that as justification for their native worldview.

yeah well, to that you can only point to the video of the year of living Biblically. .

[WonderWAAAGH 7,153]

There are a lot of things to be said about religion, both good and bad. I won't knock anyone for their beliefs, but personally, I prefer not to borrow my moral precepts from a couple thousand year old book. A lot has changed in the intervening years.

[Robin Graves 6,054]

Wait, according to that bill you can dsicriminate based on religion...

 

Homosexuality wasn't a religion last time i checked...

 

How would you even check that (the religion bit)?

 

Adolf the shopkeep: "Oi you! before i serve you what religion are you?"

Jewish Rabbi in full dress: "Christian."

Adolf: "what? really?"

Rabbi: "I converted."

Adolf: "Oooowkey then..."

After making his purchases:

Rabbi "ha ha joke's on you sucker! I'm Jewish!"

Adolf: "D'oh!"

 

[DoubleNot7 768]

I've changed part of my position on this; Gencon should absolutely vacate Indianapolis (mostly because it is a pit) and move to Texas. The Astro Arena complex or GRB convention center would do nicely.

Others survive the military with their "conscience " in tact also. Just look at Burdahl.

[WonderWAAAGH 7,153]

Right, Gencon wants to relocate to the bastion of conservative anachronicity that is Texas. How forward thinking of them to think that their very presence will set that state right.

Edited March 28, 2015 by WonderWAAAGH

[Robin Graves 6,054]

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

[Vorpal Sword 14,685]

Right, Gencon wants to relocate to the bastion of conservative anachronicity that is Texas. How forward thinking of them to think that their very presence will set that state right.

I wonder if Austin has the capacity...?

[Verlaine 1,647]

Personally I think they should move it to Amsterdam. Handy as it's a short flight away :-)

Lijkt me een goed idee!

Tr.: I approve.

[KnightShift 306]

GenCon has stood down, announcing they won't be leaving Indiana.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/gamer-convention-stays-in-indiana-2015-3

[Dagonet 7,246]

I don't think anybody realistically expected GenCon to pack up and leave at the drop of a hat. 

[Guest Andy1909]

I don't think anybody realistically expected GenCon to pack up and leave at the drop of a hat. 

 

Especially if they still have 6 shows left on the contract. It would be interesting to know who the businesses are that got in touch with them though.