heychadwick 11,354 Posted February 4, 2015 Same for Ten Numb, too. Sure, the Mangler cannon is great, but it's 4 pts. Now, you can spend 1 pt and use his ability more often. I can also see it as a good option for Darth Vader, as well. Yes, Predator is better, but it costs more. If I were looking to save points... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teh HOBO 302 Posted February 4, 2015 Kath Scarlet (38)Calculation (1)"Mangler" Cannon (4)Rebel Captive or Recon Specialist (3) Stress machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heychadwick 11,354 Posted February 4, 2015 What about this: Kath Scarlet (38)Calculation (1) Slave One Title (0) Flechette Torpedo (2) You get the TL the round before. You then fire it at something....maybe a Phantom or Interceptor with Auto Thrusters. You flip one to a critical, which they evade. That causes stress. Then, you cause another stress from the flechette torpedo! You can even throw on Tactician and make sure it's at Range 2 for a triple stress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArdusKaine 359 Posted February 4, 2015 Hm... The Calculation Swarm OGP (21) - Fleet Officer (3) Black Squadron Pilot x 5 - Calculation (1) Total: 99 Could be fun maybe toss a Wingman on a BSP to remove stress from OGP and put you at 100/100. 1 stmack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,068 Posted February 4, 2015 My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tipperary 2,370 Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action? It changes only one result. Marksmanship can change as many focus results as you roll. Technically, Calculation requires specifically that you have a focus token, and usually that will also take your action. Edited February 4, 2015 by Tipperary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Verlaine 1,647 Posted February 4, 2015 My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action?It changes only one result. Marksmanship can change as many focus results as you roll. Technically, Calculation requires specifically that you have a focus token, and usually that will also take your action. That reminds me that it could also be a good one on Jake Farrell, who is going to focus anyway. 1 stmack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,746 Posted February 4, 2015 My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action? Marksmanship is kind of terrible. So this is a better version of the same idea, priced to provide a commensurate benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,746 Posted February 4, 2015 Just realized that Ten + Calculation + Ion Torpedo would be kind of nasty. 4 dice, and the odds are _very_ good that _something_ is going to get through. If the opponent is next to another ship or two or three... that's a lot of ionization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Sword 14,685 Posted February 4, 2015 My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action? Marksmanship is kind of terrible. So this is a better version of the same idea, priced to provide a commensurate benefit. Pretty much what Punning Pundit says. Unless you were planning to make multiple attacks in a turn, Marksmanship wasn't a good investment of your squad points because it does only a bit more than focus on offense, and doesn't offer the offense/defense flexibility of a focus token. You can call it power creep or you can call it a fix, but Calculation is priced where Marksmanship--in its iteration as an attack boost for a single shot--probably ought to have been. (There are reasons to still take Marksmanship at 3 points, but most of them are named Gunner or Corran, and there it was already a good buy and doesn't need help.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,068 Posted February 4, 2015 My question is what makes this cost only 1 point when marksmanship costs 3 points and takes up an action? It changes only one result. Marksmanship can change as many focus results as you roll. Technically, Calculation requires specifically that you have a focus token, and usually that will also take your action. True but there are more ways to get a focus token than a free action. You can steal it with Palob of Lecheros or have Kyle or Wes give you one. It seems like Calculation gives you way more flexibility for only a single point. Sure marksmanship can make use of two focuses but how often do you see 2 focus come up with nothing else? But yeah send it to the stat boys to do the calculations. I am sure there is another thread talking about the statistics of a critical hit doing an extra damage. 1 Punning Pundit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punning Pundit 4,746 Posted February 4, 2015 Pretty much what Punning Pundit says. Unless you were planning to make multiple attacks in a turn, Marksmanship wasn't a good investment of your squad points because it does only a bit more than focus on offense, and doesn't offer the offense/defense flexibility of a focus token. You can call it power creep or you can call it a fix, but Calculation is priced where Marksmanship--in its iteration as an attack boost for a single shot--probably ought to have been. (There are reasons to still take Marksmanship at 3 points, but most of them are named Gunner or Corran, and there it was already a good buy and doesn't need help.) When I first started playing the game, my buddy and I hadn't realized that Marksmanship required an action. Man, let me tell you how awesome Luke + (actionless) Marksmanship + R2D2 was! Side note: can I tell you how smug I'm feeling for having posted this 2 weeks ago: http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/132812-if-you-could-create-a-new-ept-what-would-it-be/#entry1418167 It's not identical, but it's the same general idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomFO 8,979 Posted February 4, 2015 It seems like Calculation gives you way more flexibility for only a single point. Sure marksmanship can make use of two focuses but how often do you see 2 focus come up with nothing else? Way more often than you'd think. Marksmanship is more specialized. When attacking with four or more dice, it's generally better than Calculation due to the higher chance of seeing more eyeballs. When attacking more than once in a round (Gunner, Corran Horn) it also works on both attacks. For one point, I'd actually consider this EPT on a Jan Ors HWK with Crew Kyle and a Blaster Turret. I've always been reluctant to give her an EPT, as that build is already 32 points. Pushing it to 35 points with Predator is overkill for what she does. 34 points with Swarm Tactics forces her to fly in formation and makes her too big of a target. 33 points with Calculation gives her flexiblity (she rarely sees more than one eyeball) and a little more punch without really bloating her cost. 3 stmack, Verlaine and Punning Pundit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites