Noob Question

[CKO 1]

To use the force you have to create a dice pool that consists solely of a number of force dice equal to your force rating. How do you get a higher force rating and what is your original force rating?  On page 147 it says it is ranked so can I spend 25 points  on it over and over again to increase it? This system is something different!

[Josep Maria 670]

Greetings and welcome mate!

 

Almost every Force specialization has a Force Rating upgrade on it (F&D even 2 per tree), so, when you arrive to the talent, just buy it and your FR will increase.

 

Hope it helped

[Vixen Icaza 316]

In AoE and EotE there are extra universal specialisations in the back of the book, Force Exile and Force Emergent. Taking eather of these gives you 1 force rating. In F&D all carriers get 1 force rating.

After getting this FR1 all increases to Force Rating come from talents. You can take each talent in a specialisation once per time it occurs on that tree starting with talents on the top and always following the lines from there. Force Rating and Stats are almost always at the bottom of the tree @ 25pts. This is the only way to raise these after character creation.

[CKO 1]

So a force sensitive emergent will have a max of 2 force rating? One from starting off and one from purchasing force rating for 25 points on the talent tree? Or is there a way to increase it during character creation?

Edited January 27, 2015 by CKO

[Josep Maria 670]

Yes, that the max that a FS Emergent can achieve. There isn't any other way to have more FR from the beginning.

 

From this point you have to purchase new FS trees and buy the talent "Force Rating".

Edited January 27, 2015 by Josep Maria

[kaosoe 7,405]

So a force sensitive emergent will have a max of 2 force rating? One from starting off and one from purchasing force rating for 25 points on the talent tree? Or is there a way to increase it during character creation?

Correct, but as Josep Maria said, you can purchase additional specializations that have a Force Rating talent in the tree and begin working your way to that talent.

 

Force Rating is a big deal and it was purposefully made to be a slow crawl to improve your Force rating. Just look at how much devastation you can achieve with the Move power and 2-3 Force Rating.

[awayputurwpn 7,682]

As the others have alluded to, ranked talents in this game don't work quite like the OP suggests.

 

If a talent is ranked, it can be purchased multiple times, but not from the same spot in a given talent tree.

 

Note that the Force Sensitive Emergent has two instances each of the Uncanny Senses, Uncanny Reactions, Toughened, Grit, Indistinguishable, and Sleight of Mind talents. Those can all be purchased twice (once each from their respective talent tree slots) within that tree, but since there is only one Force Rating talent in the tree (this is also true of Dedication), you can only increase your Force Rating by a total of +1 using this talent tree. 

[Maelora 5,799]

Even the difference between 2 and 3 Force Dice is colossal. 

 

With 4 pips, you can use a full Move tree to hurl multiple Silhouette 4 objects at extreme range. The chance of getting that with 2 dice is about 11%, but with 3 dice that chance skyrockets to about 70%.  That's a massive difference.

[CKO 1]

Is force rating 3 even possible?

 

If I want to be a spy that is also force sensitive it would cost me 20 points for the extra specialization correct? If I select grit on the scout tree and than grit on the force sensitive tree do they stack because they are ranked?

[mouthymerc 4,482]

Is force rating 3 even possible?

 

Yes if you take multiple Force specs. For example, before F&D if you took both the FSEx and FSEm specs you would get a FR of 3 if you worked up to the Force rating talent in each. F&D just expands those options.

 

If I want to be a spy that is also force sensitive it would cost me 20 points for the extra specialization correct? If I select grit on the scout tree and than grit on the force sensitive tree do they stack because they are ranked?

Yes Grit stacks because it is a ranked talent. Each time you take it adds to the total bonus.

[CKO 1]

Thanks for the help but I dont know what the abbreviations mean what is F&D, FSEx, and FSEm? Are you saying you automatically get an extra rating when you choose a force power tree? Also do I have to pay the extra specialization tax for the talents?

Edited January 28, 2015 by CKO

[mouthymerc 4,482]

F&D Force & Destiny. In beta right now with the full core book to release this summer. It is the book that focuses on the Force.

 

FSEx Force Sensitive Exile. Force spec in the Edge of the Empire core book.

 

FSEm Force Sensitive Emergent. Force spec in the Age of Empire core book.

 

You must take a Force spec such as one of the above two (or a career from F&D) to gain your initial FR of 1, then purchase talents to the talent Force Rating in the spec to increase your Force Rating. When you purchase an additional spec, you do not get an additional Force Rating increase until you work your way through the spec to the talent Force Rating.

[CKO 1]

Ok, I am starting to catch on thank you guys so much!

[Ghostofman 8,297]

Yeah, this game balances the awesomeness of the force by making it XP expensive. So far it's better balanced then it's predecessors though.

 

Also don't get hung up on using a Dpoint and strain to "use the darkside" to activate a force power. F&D gets into the nitty gritty of that, but the short version is it's expected that most players will do this once or twice a session, and it's less of a "You used the darkside! boo Hiss!" and more of a "Are you SURE you needed to use the force for that?"

 

Negative actions like theft, unnecessary violence, torture, ect. (you know, actually doing bad things) will have a much greater impact on your dark/light situation, whether you use the force when committing said action or not.