theDestroyer00 14 Posted January 10, 2015 Why do we, I'm one of the we also, try to spend less points to gain Intiative? Because for example if I have VI Whisper vs other 9's with Intiative I have to move first. I understand that I also can shoot first but I prefer to move second so I can get into a better position. Eg not be fired at or to get a shot. Maybe I am wrong but I think I dont want Intiative anymore PS Can I offer my opponent Intiative without a roll? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilligan 1,302 Posted January 10, 2015 If you move first you cloak before he shoots, that's 2 extra dice right there, worth moving in the blind. If you win the initiative bid you get to choose who gets initiative, you don't get it automatically as it used to work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theDestroyer00 14 Posted January 10, 2015 Um if your cloaked you cant shoot though? And if you move your phantom second then you could get out of arc. Especially with Advanced sensors and Navigator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilligan 1,302 Posted January 10, 2015 I mean with ACD, you shoot- you cloak. Then your opponent shoots, and your phantom is already cloaked, even if he has same PS. You *could* get out of arc, but not necessarily, that is very circumstantial. As a player with initiative, you can sometimes do a "safe" decloak + move that covers most of the other players options, at least when you're at a medium-large distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWHSD 9,273 Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Um if your cloaked you cant shoot though? And if you move your phantom second then you could get out of arc. Especially with Advanced sensors and NavigatorIf you spend less points or win the roll off, coin toss, or roshambo then you get to decide who has initiative. Whether you want initiative or not depends on the make up of your opponent's list. Did he show up with a PS 9 turret that isn't Dash in an HLC Outrider? You want initiative. Does he have VI Dash in an HLC Outrider? You want him to have initiative so you can make sure that you snuggle up at range one. Does he have Soontir or Whisper? You want him to take initiative so that you can arc dodge his arc dodging. Edited January 10, 2015 by WWHSD 1 theDestroyer00 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites