Shadow soul questions

[Cattleya 0]

Two questions on shadows soul,

1. can a shadow soul be placed/summoned under a monster? For example, when a shadow walker is attacking a group of monsters placed beside each other.

2. If you do a blast, on a group of monster and with the shadow soul, should the monster defend and allocate demage first or the shadow soul. I.e. Will there be a +1 demage for the monsters

[Zaltyre 1,626]

1. The shadow soul is not a figure, and does not block movement or LOS, nor is its movement or LOS blocked by any figures. Therefore, the answer is yes. You can summon (or move) the shadow soul under a monster.

 

2. The shadow soul's text says "Each time a monster in a space adjacent or containing a Shadow Soul suffers damage from an attack, it suffers 1 additional wound." This text alters what each monster suffers, it does not alter the damage dealt by an attack. Each affected monster has to consider the shadow soul individually. If you attack a monster adjacent to the shadow soul, and the attack has blast, any monsters that are also in range of the shadow soul will suffer 1 additional wound (if their own defense doesn't block all damage.) Any monsters not in range of the shadow soul will not suffer the extra wound, even if they suffer damage.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Zaltyre

[Cattleya 0]

Thanks for the reply, one more question that I just encounter. If a monster is sharing the same space as the shadow soul, when another monster attack that space, dose it attack both the monster and the shadow soul, or only the shadow soul.

[Whitewing 199]

The shadow soul cannot be attacked. It is a familiar that is not treated as a hero figure, and is for all intents and purposes, pretty much invincible in most cases.

[Zaltyre 1,626]

The shadow soul cannot be attacked. It is a familiar that is not treated as a hero figure, and is for all intents and purposes, pretty much invincible in most cases.

Exactly. Notice that the shadow soul doesn't even have a health value.

[sdh007 28]

 

The shadow soul cannot be attacked. It is a familiar that is not treated as a hero figure, and is for all intents and purposes, pretty much invincible in most cases.

Exactly. Notice that the shadow soul doesn't even have a health value.

 

 

 

Been a while since I played a Shadow Walker. One question: if your scout is defeated, then your Shadow Soul is defeated as well right?

[Charmy 351]

Nope. It sticks around. In fact, as a familiar it can still move around while the Shadow Walker is knocked out and conveys its benefits to the other members of the team.

 

It does go back to the supply after the encounter, however.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Charmy

[sdh007 28]

Nope. It sticks around. In fact, as a familiar it can still move around while the Shadow Walker is knocked out and conveys its benefits to the other members of the team.

 

It does go back to the supply after the encounter, however.

 

 

Thanks! Opens opportunities

Edited January 13, 2015 by sdh007

[Zaltyre 1,626]

I think all the shadow soul could do is move while the hero is knowcked out, since heroes can't use skills or abilities while knocked out, unless an effect specifically allows it.

[Charmy 351]

I think all the shadow soul could do is move while the hero is knowcked out, since heroes can't use skills or abilities while knocked out, unless an effect specifically allows it.

Heroes can't use any skills or abilities while knocked out, yes.

 

In this case however, the Shadow Soul familiar card itself conveys a damage bonus to those adjacent to it. This is neither a skill, nor ability of the Shadow Walker, but of the familiar.

[Zaltyre 1,626]

 

I think all the shadow soul could do is move while the hero is knowcked out, since heroes can't use skills or abilities while knocked out, unless an effect specifically allows it.

Heroes can't use any skills or abilities while knocked out, yes.

 

In this case however, the Shadow Soul familiar card itself conveys a damage bonus to those adjacent to it. This is neither a skill, nor ability of the Shadow Walker, but of the familiar.

Right, yes- I just meant heroes wouldn't gain a MP from "Dark Shift," or the shadow ability from "Endless Void" or the like.

[Alarmed 257]

But the positionnning of the shadow soul could be important on the round the shadow walker is revived, or the round after he stands up.

 

For example, to allow you to use Shadow step to get away from a mob of monsters, to set up an Otherwordly attack on the boss monster, or a grab across a pit or other obstacle with Dark Servant.

Edited January 19, 2015 by Alarmed

[rider4 0]

2. The shadow soul's text says "Each time a monster in a space adjacent or containing a Shadow Soul suffers damage from an attack, it suffers 1 additional wound." This text alters what each monster suffers, it does not alter the damage dealt by an attack. Each affected monster has to consider the shadow soul individually. If you attack a monster adjacent to the shadow soul, and the attack has blast, any monsters that are also in range of the shadow soul will suffer 1 additional wound (if their own defense doesn't block all damage.) Any monsters not in range of the shadow soul will not suffer the extra wound, even if they suffer damage.

 

What will happen if Shadow Walker has skill "Otherworldly" and he (or another hero) will perform attack with blast? I guess that this attack will gain 1 pierce for all monsters adjacent to Shadow Soul. Is my understanding correct?

[rider4 0]

Another question:

Let's assume that hero uses "Incendiary Arrows" (...If this attack does not miss, each figure adjacent to the target suffers 1 Heart).

What will happen if Shadow Soul is also on attacked field? Will adjacent monsters suffer additional 1 Heart from Shadow Soul ability?

Edited May 20, 2016 by rider4

[Zaltyre 1,626]

Your two questions are related, but have different answers. Remember the shadow soul's effect is each time a monster within 1 space suffers a wound FROM AN ATTACK, it suffers an additional wound. Also note the text of otherwordly, "Each ATTACK that TARGETS a monster within 1 space of the soul gains pierce 1." (I paraphrased and capitalized the extra important words).

1) Your understanding is correct. As long as the targeted monster is in range of the soul, since the attack is what gains lierce, the blasted (affected, but not targeted) monsters must deal with pierce as well. Note that if your target were 2 spaces from the soul, otherwordly would NOT trigger even if a blasted monster were adjacent to it.

2) The affect of incendiary arrows is not an attack. Therefore, monsters suffering that single wound (but not targeted or affected by the attack) would not suffer any additional wound. Also, no pierce (again, not an attack).

Edited May 20, 2016 by Zaltyre

[Luijod 197]

Gotta read those cards carefully kids, if you don't want Uncle Zalty to school ya!

[meatsauce 0]

I have a dumb question, can other heroes take advantage of the shadow soul's proximity damage? Meaning if they attack? Or is it only in effect when I attack?

[Zaltyre 1,626]

On 10/29/2017 at 10:55 AM, meatsauce said:

I have a dumb question, can other heroes take advantage of the shadow soul's proximity damage? Meaning if they attack? Or is it only in effect when I attack?

Yes. The shadow soul card states that the effect triggers "when the monster suffers damage from an attack". Therefore, it does not matter who performs the attack.

[Lightningclaw 141]

It doesn't even have to be a hero that is attacking- it would work on a monster that used "Fire Breath" on other monsters.

I don't have the cards with me, but I am wondering how the Shadow Soul interacts with Dark Charm, if the charmed hero attacks themselves while adjacent to the Shadow Soul.

I guess it depends on if the hero is a monster while charmed. The cards are really far away from me right now though.

[Charmy 351]

1 hour ago, Lightningclaw said:

It doesn't even have to be a hero that is attacking- it would work on a monster that used "Fire Breath" on other monsters.

I don't have the cards with me, but I am wondering how the Shadow Soul interacts with Dark Charm, if the charmed hero attacks themselves while adjacent to the Shadow Soul.

I guess it depends on if the hero is a monster while charmed. The cards are really far away from me right now though.

Yes, that works. A hero is treated as a Monster for the Dark Charm attack. Thus, if they attack themselves while adjacent to the Shadow Soul they will suffer additional damage.

Andira Runehand's ability can be turned against the heroes in a similar way!

Edited October 30, 2017 by Charmy

[grimlord77 1]

i have a question too, if i have already 1 shadow soul on the field, and i want to put another on the field with my card faithful friend the next turn, but i know i can only have one on the field so the shadow soul will be dedtroy then replace or it will do nothing ?

[Lightningclaw 141]

21 hours ago, grimlord77 said:

i have a question too, if i have already 1 shadow soul on the field, and i want to put another on the field with my card faithful friend the next turn, but i know i can only have one on the field so the shadow soul will be dedtroy then replace or it will do nothing ?

When that happens you take the shadow soul off the map, then put it where you want with Faithful Friend. So basically like you said; destroyed then replaced.

If faithful friend didn't let you do that, you'd have to walk the shadow soul everywhere. With 1 movement, that would be... ghastly. ?