Queen of Thorns question (remove supporting unit)

[GameTime 0]

Hi everyone.

In our game tonight the final play was Tyrell attacking Kings Landing (Lannister) which was supported from the Sea by the Baratheons.

Tyrell played the Queen of Thorns card, to try remove the Baratheon support token from the game board.

The card states

"Remove one of your opponent's tokens from an area adjacent to the battlefield"

There was some confusion amongst the group, as to what the definition of an opponent is in this case. Had the support been from the Lannister house, then there would be no problem, but does the Opponent in a battle include support from a third party?

Thank you for your help.

Edited January 3, 2015 by GameTime

[kauai1964 41]

This is addressed here:

 

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/82653-queen-of-thorns-house-tyrell-card-interpretation/?hl=%2Bqueen+%2Bthorns

[GameTime 0]

This is addressed here:

 

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/82653-queen-of-thorns-house-tyrell-card-interpretation/?hl=%2Bqueen+%2Bthorns

 

No it has not been addressed on the link you provided.

 

A random forum members view on how they believe the card should be played, is by no means an official correct ruling.

 

The BGG forum has another user who claims to have received an email from FFG about this topic, but did not provide any evidence.

 

I have googled all traces of this topic but yet to find an official answer.

Edited January 4, 2015 by GameTime

[kauai1964 41]

First Edition (yes, I know it's not the 2nd Edition) FAQ says:

 

Definition of “Opponent” on House Cards
Several House cards refer to an “opponent’s” units or
orders. (Such cards include “The Reader” and “Arianne
Martell” in A Clash of Kings, and “The Queen of Thorns”
in A Storm of Swords.) “Your opponent” means either the
attacker (if you are the defender) or the defender (if you
are the attacker), not players who are providing support.

 

Makes it pretty clear.

 

Read other House Cards - Doran Martell, Robb Stark, Patchface - then compare to Salladhor Saan.

 

"your opponent" as opposed to "an opponent".

Edited January 4, 2015 by kauai1964

[GameTime 0]

Yes but that argument of the First Edition Rulebook is no longer valid as the Second Edition Rulebook redefines the term "Opponent":

 

"Enemy/Opponent: Describes any game component or area controlled by another player, or describes the rival player himself."

Edited January 4, 2015 by GameTime

[kauai1964 41]

It's not the Rulebook, it's the FAQ, and it specifically refers to the Queen of Thorns.

 

If you're going to pick nits, the link I provided DOES address the issue, it just doesn't give the answer you were looking for.

 

Why don't you just ask Jason, and then post his answer here for us all to see?

[GameTime 0]

I asked the User from BGG to provide evidence of his email from Jason Walden, which he has now done.

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic2364758.png
 

Looks legit so im happy with that.

 

Case Closed.