zhentil 76 Posted December 30, 2014 Okay, now i know that the defender gets an extra defense die when you are shooting through an obstacle. Now if my YT-2400 is on the edge of one I know i can still shoot through it. But when does it count that i am shooting through the debris field? Also when I am being attacked do i get the extra defense die for being at least partial on the debris field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cptnhalfbeard 680 Posted December 30, 2014 Whether you are on an obstacle is irrelevant for obstructed attacks. All that matters is when you measure range (closest-to-closest) if the line between those 2 points overlaps an obstacle. So if you are half on an obstacle, but the half that is closest to the ship firing at you is not on an obstacle the attack is not obstructed. 1 Marinealver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehan Menasis 1,562 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) You must trace a single line from closest to closest point between each model's base. If the line passes over an obstacle, the defender gets +1 defence die from the obstruction. Also, note that the line must be wholly inside your firing arc, ignoring this restriction if your pilot/weapon is able to fire outside its firng arc. Edited December 30, 2014 by Jehan Menasis 1 Cptnhalfbeard reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilsonodk 16 Posted December 30, 2014 Note, that if your ship is on a obstacle during the Combat Phase, you cannot attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhentil 76 Posted December 30, 2014 Okay, thanks, that's the way we were playing it. Just wanted to be totally sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FNG tie pilot 123 Posted December 30, 2014 Note, that if your ship is on a obstacle during the Combat Phase, you cannot attack. If your ship is on an asteroid, you MAY NOT perform attacks. If your ship is on a debris field, you MAY perform attacks. 2 LordBritish2 and Cptnhalfbeard reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parravon 5,217 Posted December 30, 2014 And if you've got Dash Rendar as crew... "What obstacle?" 2 LordBritish2 and FNG tie pilot reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuls 215 Posted December 30, 2014 If your ship is on a debris field, you MAY perform attacks. This is why I love reading the forums. I would have thought you couldn't attack. 1 Rottenreason reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parravon 5,217 Posted December 31, 2014 Always educational. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rottenreason 123 Posted December 31, 2014 If your ship is on a debris field, you MAY perform attacks. This is why I love reading the forums. I would have thought you couldn't attack. I just learned something myself. I thought a ship could attack if it's on a Roid. If the ship on the roid is being attacked though it still gains +1 evade dice against the attacker? If I am attacking the ship that has landed on the roid my line of fire to that ship is clear and does not pass through any obstacles. IE. I am behind the defending ship and his front part of the base has hit the roid. My shot would not grant him +1 evade dice correct? 1 Plainsman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cptnhalfbeard 680 Posted December 31, 2014 If your ship is on a debris field, you MAY perform attacks.This is why I love reading the forums. I would have thought you couldn't attack. I just learned something myself. I thought a ship could attack if it's on a Roid. If the ship on the roid is being attacked though it still gains +1 evade dice against the attacker? If I am attacking the ship that has landed on the roid my line of fire to that ship is clear and does not pass through any obstacles. IE. I am behind the defending ship and his front part of the base has hit the roid. My shot would not grant him +1 evade dice correct? You got it 2 Rottenreason and Plainsman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilsonodk 16 Posted December 31, 2014 I am behind the defending ship and his front part of the base has hit the roid. You should also keep in mind that when he moves again, he is likely to re-hit that asteroid, since his ship only has the front part on the asteroid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parravon 5,217 Posted December 31, 2014 Correct Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinealver 8,073 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Note, that if your ship is on a obstacle during the Combat Phase, you cannot attack. For all obstacles the rule states that you can't fire when on an obstacle. Debris clouds are the only exception to this. The only thing is that for officially sanctioned competitive matches only allow asteroids are allowed and make no mentions of debris clouds as acting different from any other obstacle. As of now if they are allowed then they act like normal obstacles. Only in cinematic scenarios and casual play are you allowed to treat them as mentioned in the debris cloud rule card. Edited January 14, 2015 by Marinealver 1 Rottenreason reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites