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You can have 3 HLC with Stealth Device and Serissu+Swarm Tactics

But that would require Sirissu to give up her HLC.

 

 

That's actually good as it'll make opponents think about shooting Serissu who doesn't benefit from re-rolls or shooting at all the other secondary weapon platforms around her. 

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Is Scyk pronounced like "Sick" or "Psych"?  I've heard it pronounced the former way but the spelling and its similarity to "Scythe" indicates that the latter is probably correct.

 

There is like a page and a half of discussion on that starting on page 3 (post 56)

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I really wonder if anyone will fly these without a cannon.  Makes me wonder why they bothered to make the title for it.

 

Depending on their dial, they could fulfil a role similar to a 15pt A-wing. Blocker, agile ship. 1 pt less, 1 shield less, 1 PS more. Probably a good mobile dial may make that work.

 

Also, Imagine you place Serissu in the middle of your 4 ship formation. You don't equip her the title, and without a cannon, it's 20 naked points that hadrly have a real value between valuable HLC 3 total HP guys, acting that lack of menace as a deterrent, thus making her friends last longer (tee hee).

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I really wonder if anyone will fly these without a cannon.  Makes me wonder why they bothered to make the title for it.

 

Depending on their dial, they could fulfil a role similar to a 15pt A-wing. Blocker, agile ship. 1 pt less, 1 shield less, 1 PS more. Probably a good mobile dial may make that work.

 

Also, Imagine you place Serissu in the middle of your 4 ship formation. You don't equip her the title, and without a cannon, it's 20 naked points that hadrly have a real value between valuable HLC 3 total HP guys, acting that lack of menace as a deterrent, thus making her friends last longer (tee hee).

 

Exactly, make her a poor man's Biggs. Do i focus the primary threat (the Scyks with cannons) and deal with the reroll, or do i focus Serissu, thus letting the heavy hitters hit me harder, longer. And Serissu'll be fine in that role with stealth device or maybe hull upgrade. I've never seen much complaining about how Howlrunner is too squishy to be viable.

On a separate note, i kinda hope the Scyk has an amazing low speed dial, all 1's 2's and 3's, with 4 straight, and greens in say the 1 and 2 straights and banks. Just make it super nimble and un-stressable in the knife fight.

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I think these things are going to be pretty hard to take out.  An M3-A with stealth flying next to Serissu gets practically defense dice, 6 at range 3.  Now plant a cannon on them and its going to be something serious to contend with. 

 

(edit) That's if you can add SD. 

Edited by EmpireErik

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So I can run five Cartel Spacers with Flechette Torpedoes? Doin' it.

 

(I really think they should have cost 13, though.)

 

It's been there since the first Scum & Villainy announcement.

13 was my guess as well. I'd like to know the efficiency of the stat line for the cost, because I'm not sure what we're getting over the TIE/ln besides the shield and point of Pilot Skill.

But the product shot is the same, you're right. Definitely wasn't trying to guess the dial back then though!

 

 

Based on the cost I'd predict a near A-wing dial. Maybe slower but with equal green.

Edited by TIE Pilot

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The points cost makes me curious of the dial, come to think of it. The closest comparison would be the Black TIE Fighter and the Chardaan Prototype A-Wing. The TIE trades a shield for a hull, and comes with +2 PS and an EPT, and the A-Wing costs 1 more point for +1 shield and -1 PS. Assuming we're actually meant to run naked M3-As at all (which I believe we are, otherwise they'd just include the Heavy upgrade and cost it 16 points), the dial should be pretty decent, quite possibly on par with A-Wings and TIE Interceptors.

 

I agree.  It has to be significantly better than the TIE as far as dial is concerned, otherwise there's no reason to take the base ship outside of the cannon upgrade with the cheaper Z available as filler.

 

I don't know why you say that.  If the dial isn't better than the Tie Fighter, then there's no reason to take the base ship?  This doesn't make sense as the S&V can't take a Tie Fighter.  So, if it's the same as a Tie Fighter, there's no point in taking it?  The other options for cheap ships are Z-95's and Y-wings.  If you want anything that's a little bit nimble, you will want to take these.  It also gets a Target Lock while a Tie Fighter doesn't.  Yeah, it's not as useful on a 2 shot ship as a 3 shot ship, but you can get within Range 1 and possibly have a TL from the turn before....so you can Focus.  That will hit harder than a Tie Fighter on average.  I think the Shield is worth it, too.  With 3 Agility it's quite possible that just a Crit gets through.  Or maybe Etahn is there.  Or a Mangler Cannon.  That shield will block a crit. 

 

To me, the S&V faction get a Z-95 or a Tie Fighter like ship to choose from for their generics.  It seems very customizable for a faction.  I like the idea. 

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The points cost makes me curious of the dial, come to think of it. The closest comparison would be the Black TIE Fighter and the Chardaan Prototype A-Wing. The TIE trades a shield for a hull, and comes with +2 PS and an EPT, and the A-Wing costs 1 more point for +1 shield and -1 PS. Assuming we're actually meant to run naked M3-As at all (which I believe we are, otherwise they'd just include the Heavy upgrade and cost it 16 points), the dial should be pretty decent, quite possibly on par with A-Wings and TIE Interceptors.

I agree. It has to be significantly better than the TIE as far as dial is concerned, otherwise there's no reason to take the base ship outside of the cannon upgrade with the cheaper Z available as filler.

I don't know why you say that. If the dial isn't better than the Tie Fighter, then there's no reason to take the base ship? This doesn't make sense as the S&V can't take a Tie Fighter. So, if it's the same as a Tie Fighter, there's no point in taking it? The other options for cheap ships are Z-95's and Y-wings. If you want anything that's a little bit nimble, you will want to take these. It also gets a Target Lock while a Tie Fighter doesn't. Yeah, it's not as useful on a 2 shot ship as a 3 shot ship, but you can get within Range 1 and possibly have a TL from the turn before....so you can Focus. That will hit harder than a Tie Fighter on average. I think the Shield is worth it, too. With 3 Agility it's quite possible that just a Crit gets through. Or maybe Etahn is there. Or a Mangler Cannon. That shield will block a crit.

To me, the S&V faction get a Z-95 or a Tie Fighter like ship to choose from for their generics. It seems very customizable for a faction. I like the idea.

The point about the TIE was for comparison only. Look at it this way. The Awing is a very similar ship to the M3 with the best dial in the game and an extra shield. At 15 points with the refit, it still doesn't get played nearly as much as the Z-95 for the rebels. In fact it's rare by comparison even though those upgrades over the Z seem to justify the cost. I think we'll see a similar relationship between the M3 and Z on the Scum side. *at least the generic PS2 version. Edited by AlexW

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And how about:

Boba+ VI + Recon specialist + Tactical Jammer

Serissu + Bodyguard + HLC

Scyk Cartel + HLC

 

Boba want fly close to enemy, so cover huge part of the map. And others fly at range 2 and shoot :) Simple and effective :)

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The point about the TIE was for comparison only. Look at it this way. The Awing is a very similar ship to the M3 with the best dial in the game and an extra shield. At 15 points with the refit, it still doesn't get played nearly as much as the Z-95 for the rebels. In fact it's rare by comparison even though those upgrades over the Z seem to justify the cost. I think we'll see a similar relationship between the M3 and Z on the Scum side. *at least the generic PS2 version.

 

 

I see what you are saying, but for one point cheaper and the ability to Barrel Roll, I think we will see them.  I find that BR is better than just boost. 

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I hadn't seen the new cannons yet, but they sure look great!

 

The Scyk looks like it could use a wash.

 

Needs some water and bubbles or a new paint job?

 

I'm really surprised Laetin A'shera doesn't get an EPT.

With all the fuss over double evade on the falcon I doubt we're going to see double evade on a 3AG ship maybe ever.  Especially one that can get up to 5-6 AG. 

 

How do you pronounce it, though?

 

Sick?

Schick?

Psych?

Shiek?

Seek.  I withold the right to call it "sick" if it is either REALLY good or really BAD!

 

 

Scarab

School

Scroll

Scuttle

Scratch

Scone

Don't get me started on the C/K confusion in English, that whole mess is just nonsense. No rhyme or reason whatsoever.

 

It's not our fault that our ancestors were conquered by nordic, french, and latin speakers and forced to integrate 3 different parent languages!  Not our fault that someone  nominated the illiterate when codifying the language in print.

 

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I see the reason for the overcost on the Scyk but that dial is going to need to be spectacular for it to see play or they must have something else in the tubes that will make the title worth taking.  Here's hoping for an EPT on the PS 5 Generic and having access to both S-Loop and Kturns!  That would be special enough. 

Edited by Rakky Wistol

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I hadn't seen the new cannons yet, but they sure look great!

 

The Scyk looks like it could use a wash.

 

Needs some water and bubbles or a new paint job?

 

 

Water and soap to wash the Tatooine sands and dirt off ^^

 

But its ok. Now we have dirty Rebel scum and dirty Scum scum.

 

The Black Sun guys seem to wash their fighters  .... ^^

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Ugh. I would have rather have the title not cost 2 points. Does make it seem like a group of sycks are gonna suck.

To fly, or fly against?

Don't think it's going to be very effective. Too easily killed.

To be fair, you find a lot of stuff not effective.

 

 

That's very fair.  =P  

Really though, try it yourself and come to your own conclusions.  

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I hadn't seen the new cannons yet, but they sure look great!

 

The Scyk looks like it could use a wash.

 

 

Nah, it needs to be dirty... SCUMMY.

;)

 

 

Dirty ship, Joe. You wanna kill Rebels? Not with this!

 

 

I will have just as much fun watch'in 'em blow up as they fire and crash right into the face of the enemy.

:lol:

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I really wonder if anyone will fly these without a cannon.  Makes me wonder why they bothered to make the title for it.

Read the Wookiepedia article. I Actually had the same idea for it last year while coming up with some homebrew "Fringe Faction" ships, only I had 3 titles, each granting one of the secondary upgrade slots.

 

I also had 2 cannon slots and 8 health on my IG-2000...

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