Rahken 6 Posted December 7, 2014 Is there anyone else out there that would like to see the SoB playable faction in this game? They need more love! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khouri 96 Posted December 7, 2014 Would they need to be an entire faction or would a warlord with specialist units not be sufficient? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahken 6 Posted December 8, 2014 Good question! As GW has the sisters right now, I don't think they have enough fluff to be their own faction. I would love for that NOT to be the case...but sadly, I don't think GW has any plans to help out the sisters. It would make sense to me that they would either be a warlord for the IG or SM. If not that, then maybe it's own faction with the ability to pull from both the IG and SM. What do you guys and girls think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khouri 96 Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) The main problem with the Sisters being their own faction would be a lack of card support beyond (say) a deluxe expansion. Whose cards would you cut out from a data pack to fit them into future releases? I really hope we'll see a couple of units and perhaps a warlord. It might take some time though as the current cycle and expected deluxes already have their work cut out in terms of expanding the core set. What mechanics would you want to see on them to set them apart from other units seen so far in the game? Edited December 8, 2014 by Khouri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keffisch 2,642 Posted December 8, 2014 Hopefully less of the "faith" crud and more zeal-based mechanics, the former always felt like a shtick to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcissistic Cannibal 25 Posted December 8, 2014 An IG warlord + retinue from SoB would be sufficient. 2 CommissarFeesh and Shkar reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borithan 237 Posted December 8, 2014 My guess would be an Imperial Guard set of cards... or maybe "Imperial only" neutral cards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killax 249 Posted December 8, 2014 I would love them to be part of this game, they will probably end up being AM like the Inquisitors but nontheless would be an awesome addition. Gamewise I think they would fit between the Eldar and SM, which is quite the dangerous combination when you think about it. Nontheless I do think they will eventually appear, maby not a full Warlord and such but I do expect a Sisters of Battle unit. Perhaps like the Dark Eldar one who returns an Event card... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prepare for War 155 Posted December 9, 2014 Almost certainly will be part of "Astra Militarum", I'd say, given that we've seen the precedent now of an Inquisitor warlord in Astra Militarum. Entirely wrong from a fluff point of view, but an understandable compromise for the LCG. The reason why I wouldn't expect them to turn up in SM is because of weight of fiction. There's way more written material and sculpted mini ranges given to the Space Marines than the AM in general, so it makes more sense in LCG faction balance terms to donate them to AM. Of course, there's way more AM fluff than there is Tau or Necron fluff, so we'll see how they handle that over time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahken 6 Posted December 10, 2014 I'm not even going to pretend I'm good at coming up with mechanics. I would like to see faith and zeal stuff incorporated. It would also be interesting to see how their mid-close range firepower might come accross in the card game. 1 Killax reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayloth 20 Posted December 10, 2014 In my opinion, seen as Torquemada, who is a member of the Inquisition, has been made an Astra Militarum Warlord, Sisters of Battle should be made also a new Warlord with special units and events. 2 Shkar and CommissarFeesh reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killax 249 Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) I'm not even going to pretend I'm good at coming up with mechanics. I would like to see faith and zeal stuff incorporated. It would also be interesting to see how their mid-close range firepower might come accross in the card game. Well you do hit the nail on the head on what they should do. I honestly expect we will see more AM events who are mentioning the Wrath of the Emperor. As such I think Sisters of Battle would be a type of card that would return an Event card as a result. Probably something along the lines of Cost: 3 2/3 Command: 1, Return the topmost AM event to your hand could fit. OR alternatively (because they fit between the Space Marines and AM) Return the topmost SM event to your hand, while being an AM card. This, imho would fit because the Sisters themself fit between Space Marines and the AM. In my opinion, seen as Torquemada, who is a member of the Inquisition, has been made an Astra Militarum Warlord, Sisters of Battle should be made also a new Warlord with special units and events. I agree that it would be very cool. However the way GW has been treating the Sisters of Battle and their previous named Codexi I don't expect they will get as much attention as say the Inquisitors. Edited December 10, 2014 by Killax Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shkar 51 Posted December 10, 2014 I too expect them to be in the forma of a warlord + retinue and cards from the AM. But using a restriction in the line of "you cannot include ork cards in your deck". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killax 249 Posted December 10, 2014 I too expect them to be in the forma of a warlord + retinue and cards from the AM. But using a restriction in the line of "you cannot include ork cards in your deck". Yeah the AM and Ork alliance remains a strange one because in many situations the AM and Orks are in continious battle... So personally I don't think we will see that limitation... I would like it if FFG printed the same vechicles for Orks however in a "looted" version. So basicly the exact same card with an Ork border (or cheaper but lacking command). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keffisch 2,642 Posted December 10, 2014 Wouldn't it be more thematic if it was an attachment that you could play on cards with the vehicle trait - in the opponent's discard pile - and then bring them into play under your (the Ork player) control that way? 4 Killax, CommissarFeesh, Narcissistic Cannibal and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killax 249 Posted December 10, 2014 Wouldn't it be more thematic if it was an attachment that you could play on cards with the vehicle trait - in the opponent's discard pile - and then bring them into play under your (the Ork player) control that way? Would be awesome and optional aswell altough in the miniature game they have no real way of doing it, I would be all in favour! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keeblerpowell 1 Posted December 10, 2014 I know I always go back to the sabertooth games version but: They had the sisters as specialist units in the general space marines faction. The played on their affinity for flamer weapons by making their assault attacks target multiple units and they were generally faster than the regular space marines. I could see them doing a special character for the marines as a sister with a retinue as the staple cards. A special flamer attachment or maybe an imolator tank or penitent engine. I think it could be done fairly easily. Nuns with Guns! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killax 249 Posted December 10, 2014 Looking forward to the path they'll choose. I still think it would fit the AM better as I believe there is some hate between the SM and the Sisters, mainly because of use of power armour... If you'd ask me a few months ago I would have said the Inquisitors would fit the Space Marines but as they did not do that I can see more power armour being present within the AM as a faction and thus Sisters probably will also end up in the AM soup that it allready is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M44C 14 Posted December 11, 2014 I think there is a good chance they are in the game in some form. I would think AM most likely with their own Warlord and some supporting cards. 2 Killax and CommissarFeesh reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahken 6 Posted December 11, 2014 While I agree that they will likely be a AM add-on, I would prefer to see them as their own faction. I disagree with the argument that since the inquisition is getting added into AM, then SoB would too. The sisters of battle had their own codex and were their own army for a long time. They have kind of been forgotten about by GW. If FFG showed them some love by making them their own faction, then it would be well deserved. I also agree with the post about SoB allying with Orks, it doesn't make sense fluff-wise. Not that Necrons allying with anyone does... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekwych 270 Posted December 12, 2014 As a SoB tabletop player I would love to see them as their own faction but with the currant game mechanics they would play best as part of AM. For me the best option would be a new Warlord and a series of loyal cards included Seraphim, Immolators, and a "Flamer Advance" card that does Area Effect. 1 Khayloth reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayloth 20 Posted December 12, 2014 Sounds reasonable =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcissistic Cannibal 25 Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Not that Necrons allying with anyone does... The complaint department of mindshackle scarabs invites you for a discussion:) Edited December 12, 2014 by Stereochild Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prepare for War 155 Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) Not that Necrons allying with anyone does... The complaint department of mindshackle scarabs invites you for a discussion:) The tyranid mind-slaver wants to know why no-one wants its company. Back on topic, one suggestion that was raised on cardgamedb was of Warlords that specify their allies. For example, it'd be awesome to see an Inquisitor Valeria who is noted as having Eldar as her ally. Likewise, you could have an SOB warlord that specifies your ally choice is Space marines. Late enough in the game's life cycle you could have an SOB warlord that says you can't take an allied faction. Actually, on that thought, it'd be awesome if later on we get a Warlord for each faction that is sufficiently xenophobic to have the rule "no alied faction". Edited December 12, 2014 by Prepare for War 1 Killax reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahken 6 Posted December 13, 2014 Not that Necrons allying with anyone does... The complaint department of mindshackle scarabs invites you for a discussion:) Just googled that. I guess I've been out of the tabletop for too long. Prepare For War has some pretty sweet ideas. Tekwych, as a current SoB player, do you have any ideas as to what mechanics would be easily incorporated into Conquest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites