FetaCheese 194 Posted October 27, 2014 1. A squire (1hp) defends against an enemy with 3 attack. The enemy's shadow effect reads "deal 1 damage to all characters". the squire dies immediately and before the attack right? Who defends the attack then? Is it undefended? Can a new defender be declared. 2. Same as above but after the shadow effect is revealed a player uses feint. Does the shadow effect resolve? Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjeagle 48 Posted October 27, 2014 1. A squire (1hp) defends against an enemy with 3 attack. The enemy's shadow effect reads "deal 1 damage to all characters". the squire dies immediately and before the attack right? Who defends the attack then? Is it undefended? Can a new defender be declared. 2. Same as above but after the shadow effect is revealed a player uses feint. Does the shadow effect resolve? Cheers. 1. It's undefended. 2. You can't play Feint at this point. See FAQ p8: "Q: When should Feint (CORE 34) be played? A: This card should be played any time before resolving step 1 of the target enemy’s attack during the combat phase. (Once the act of resolving an enemy’s attack begins, it is too late to prevent it from attacking with Feint.)" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FetaCheese 194 Posted October 27, 2014 Oh boy. I've been playing feint wrong for almost a year. Welp, time to have Beregond dust off his Gondorian Shield and give good ol' Cair Andros another try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FetaCheese 194 Posted October 27, 2014 But wait! Can I use the wizard's voice after the shadow effect is revealed, or is it the same situation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teamjimby 630 Posted October 27, 2014 Same situation as feint. Sorry! Btw, that is a nasty shadow effect. Which encounter card was that from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FetaCheese 194 Posted October 27, 2014 The actual shadow effect was deal 1 damage to each ally in play. Pathless country card from road to rivendell which I was playing in nightmare mode. The enemy it was attached to had 5 attack and I play a leadership/tactics deck with Sam, Imrahil and Eomer with sneak attack and tome of atanator x3 for multiple Gandalf in-and-out action. It was working great until up to that point. 1 PsychoRocka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoRocka 1,189 Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Played nightmare Road to Rivendell last night as a break after my 10+ losses against nightmare Shadow and Flame and lost Road to Rivendell as well due to: Returning 9 enemies to staging from the discard pile.... and I already had 3 engaged (two handed). I got utterly clobbered.... this was after surviving Sleeping Sentry early on as well! Edited October 28, 2014 by PsychoRocka 1 FetaCheese reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FetaCheese 194 Posted October 28, 2014 I ve only played NM once because I bought the pack just recently and was superlucky to control shadows with repeatable feigns. Sleeping sentry really is the most brutal card ever printed. I got the same treachery you posted right after entering quest phase 2 so I only got 2 orcs back from the discard pile. Just brutal. I dont even remember coming across this card in regular RtR, which goes to show what an improvement NM is (and how well designed too). However I have also enjoyed my time with NM a lot. It takes real strategy and carefulness to make it through. You both need to know the encounter deck's tricks and fine tune your deck, making you a better player. Ive already improved my deck by removing Saruman for 3 dunedain watchers and took less resource generation for some extra card draw. Hopefully I wont have to switch to Outlands/Gandalf hero to make it through. NM RtR has my ideal "hard" difficulty. Here's another question, what other NM quests are at the same level? I like tough but not ram-your-head against-the-wall hard (I just end up frustrated and feeling dumb ). Im thinking about picking up NM PtM next. 1 PsychoRocka reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoRocka 1,189 Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I found the first two of the Khazad Dum Nightmare quests (into the pit and seventh level) are both of a similar difficulty level and so is The Redhorn Gate (except for Snow Giant.... brutal card...). The Long Dark and Watcher in the Water nightmare are slightly harder but not too crazy. Passage through Mirkwood is also about the same yep and Journey Down the Anduin is also not too crazy (except for Gladden Fields with 10 Threat). Orc Ambush actually is in the normal encounter set for Return to Rivendell but every time I've every encountered it there has been an orc in the staging area or it has only revealed an orc or two from the discard pile. Nine was just ridiculous.... Edited October 28, 2014 by PsychoRocka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jban 59 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Returning to the subject are these options possible after losing your defender to a shadow card? Sneak - Gandalf/Orc Slayer (to kill the attacker) Quick Strike/Haldir Pursuing shadows/Rain of Arrows/Goblin-Cleaver/Taking Initiative I think you can, but don't know for sure. So therefore the question .... Edited October 29, 2014 by Jban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alogos 171 Posted October 29, 2014 There is an action window between revealing the shadow card and resolving the attack. Moreover, new attack, even ones made during the staging step, open the new sequence of the attack with their action window. All 3 are good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MightyRauros 20 Posted November 6, 2014 Same situation as feint. Sorry! Btw, that is a nasty shadow effect. Which encounter card was that from? Different card than the OP, but Blocking Wargs from Into Ithilien is the shadow you're looking for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckles 89 Posted November 6, 2014 Same situation as feint. Sorry! Btw, that is a nasty shadow effect. Which encounter card was that from? Different card than the OP, but Blocking Wargs from Into Ithilien is the shadow you're looking for. Personally I NEVER want to see that card! ...though I do prefer it as a shadow card if does make an appearance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites