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This might be a dumb question but with the enhance power once your purchase the upgrades one in particular the range upgrade allows the user to leap medium range. now how far is that in feet or meter?

There's no set distance, much as the Medium Range band in the combat chapter (page 152) doesn't specify an exact distance other than "up to several dozen meters away" from the active character's current location.

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For the couple of players I have who insist in having some sort of set numbers, I made this rule of thumb based roughly on the descriptions in the book for them.

Range                      Distance

Engaged                   within 1 meter

Short                        2-12 meters

Medium                    13 - 24 meters

Long                         25-48 meters

Extreme                    49+ meters

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For the couple of players I have who insist in having some sort of set numbers, I made this rule of thumb based roughly on the descriptions in the book for them.

Range                      Distance

Engaged                   within 1 meter

Short                        2-12 meters

Medium                    13 - 24 meters

Long                         25-48 meters

Extreme                    49+ meters

I think you should revise your estimates. Extreme range isn't doable except for upgraded rifles, sniper rifles, and heavy weapons and you estimate that to be just a tad over half a football field in length?

 

I think your descriptions of engaged, short, and medium are fine but long needs to be revised way up.

Edit: I got curious so I looked up the effective ranges of some modern equivalents for comparison.

Hand gun up to 30-34 meters (30 yards)

carbine/rifle up to 400-500 meters (roughly 4.5 football fields)

Marine/Army Sniper rifles up to 1500-2000 meters (roughly 18 football fields)

 

The book also describes medium as several dozen meters so that feels right. We can also see why moving from medium to long or long to extreme takes up your whole turn and why it's so hard to hit from those ranges.

Edited by Droma

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In addition to Droma's suggestions, note (again) that Medium range is "up to several dozen meters away," whereas 24m is only a couple dozen.

Long range starts at "farther than a few dozen meters away," and the book mentions that people at long range would have to yell loudly just to hear each other.

Extreme range is the domain of high tech sniper rifles and artillery.

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For the couple of players I have who insist in having some sort of set numbers, I made this rule of thumb based roughly on the descriptions in the book for them.

Range                      Distance

Engaged                   within 1 meter

Short                        2-12 meters

Medium                    13 - 24 meters

Long                         25-48 meters

Extreme                    49+ meters

I think you should revise your estimates. Extreme range isn't doable except for upgraded rifles, sniper rifles, and heavy weapons and you estimate that to be just a tad over half a football field in length?

 

I think your descriptions of engaged, short, and medium are fine but long needs to be revised way up.

Edit: I got curious so I looked up the effective ranges of some modern equivalents for comparison.

Hand gun up to 30-34 meters (30 yards)

carbine/rifle up to 400-500 meters (roughly 4.5 football fields)

Marine/Army Sniper rifles up to 1500-2000 meters (roughly 18 football fields)

 

The book also describes medium as several dozen meters so that feels right. We can also see why moving from medium to long or long to extreme takes up your whole turn and why it's so hard to hit from those ranges.

 

That is the method my GM and I came up with. Just use modern firearm ranges as a basis. Works well. Long range fits on our table. Extreme range does not. 

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How about:

 

Engaged = up to 2m

Short = up to 10m

Medium = up to 50m

Long = up to 250m

Extreme = up to 1250m

 

That way, you start at 2, then just multiply by 5 each time. Easy to remember :)

 

Edit: This could also work for planetary scale:

 

Close = up to 2km

Short = up to 10km

Medium = up to 50km

Long = up to 250km

Extreme = up to 1250km (or more for Death Star scale weaponry)

Edited by Space Monkey

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Honestly however you and your group want to do it is fine as long as you can all come up with something you agree on. As long as you're not trying to turn this into some sort of measurement/grid based combat system I don't think it matters too much.

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