TasteTheRainbow 7,905 Posted September 16, 2014 http://teamcovenant.com/theorist/2014/09/16/tc-open-players-and-squad-lists/ Theorist posted the lists(2) for everyone participating in the TC open. This tournament includes wave 5 and aces, so it's quite a different meta than we saw at nationals. Surprising things for me? SO MANY TURRETS! Look at all those YT-2400/A-Wing lists! Double Decimators everywhere! Where did all the Falcons go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorJuggler 7,732 Posted September 16, 2014 The efficiency of the YT2400 + HLC + Outrider absolutely blows past all of the large ships with 360 degree arcs, assuming it always gets a shot. And the VT-49 is the new shiny turret for the Imperials. 1 Engine25 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorJuggler 7,732 Posted September 16, 2014 Paul Heaver has an Imperial list in there! What is the world coming to??? And more importantly... he's not flying Biggs! 3 SmartCookie, Engine25 and EvilEd209 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 7,905 Posted September 16, 2014 I know! Like every other click is a surprise! Sable running 2 non-shuttle lists? 1 Parakitor reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qapla187 223 Posted September 16, 2014 Maybe bringing 4 As was a bad idea... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumbalaya 1,366 Posted September 17, 2014 Gonna be fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markcsoul 2,071 Posted September 17, 2014 There's plenty of falcons still. I actually made a post where I added up all the lists and about 55% had either a named falcon, decimator, outrider with HLC, or named phantom with ACD. So it IS turret heavy, but not as heavy as I was expecting. However as most people took only one turret list, if everyone picks the turret list to play with the numbers might skew much higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ID X T 808 Posted September 17, 2014 I thing the two list thing does shake up the meta a bit because you don't have to counter everything in a single list. I saw a lot of cookie cutter Dash builds but I think it is the first real big shake out of the wave 5 meta so it is expected that people want to play with new toys. 1 AlexW reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 7,905 Posted September 17, 2014 Yea they might just be trying them out before World's. But if this is even close to the new meta then I see why they were talking turret/TIE Adv/interceptor help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koshinn 326 Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) No one mentioned my list (under a different name)! Makes me sad. I should have run a turret list to be cool like everyone else. I noticed a bunch of zzzbb, outrider, mini swarm + phantom or decimator, and tons of a-wings. Edited September 17, 2014 by Koshinn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 7,905 Posted September 17, 2014 Quite a bit of Rexler around. Saw 2-3 on names I recognized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilEd209 1,474 Posted September 17, 2014 I am going to try to see if the TIE swarm will survive in the Wave 5 meta, but of course I tossed a Fat Han list in there for good measure. The HLC Outrider is good, no doubt, but has a flaw I am going to try to expose.... 1 MajorJuggler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexW 2,701 Posted September 17, 2014 Yea they might just be trying them out before World's. But if this is even close to the new meta then I see why they were talking turret/TIE Adv/interceptor help. Well, there's some speculation that maybe the Wave 5 won't be here before World's since it's not even on the boat yet. I think that trying to read anything from a field of 100+ players with two lists each probably isn't all that useful. I selected a Dash list as one of my choices, but I am incredibly unlikely to bring a turret, even one that performs well, to a tourney where I have one list. Maybe after the swiss, more can be gleaned, but until then... I'd also add that I can't wait for something that will make interceptors better against ships like the Falcon. I already love flying them against them and have a lot of success doing so. 1 Vorpal Sword reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 7,905 Posted October 18, 2014 Has anyone in the TC Open had a lot of luck with a non-wave 5 list? I know Starslinger is doing well with his doom/Vessery/Soontir. Anyone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engine25 2,910 Posted October 18, 2014 2 ship lists and turrets! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markcsoul 2,071 Posted October 18, 2014 I did 1-2 with both of my non-wave 5 lists. I really think a dash + corran build will win it all. Decimator plus phantom is very tough as well, as you're facing BOTH of the worst archetypes in the game, phantoms and turrets. Can you imagine fat han with a phantom?? That's about what the decimator with phantom is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobojebus 11,341 Posted October 18, 2014 But you know turrets are fine guys and they are in no way the easy mode option. /sarcasm off Look what turrets have done to our dog fighting game, I don't know what they intend to do to boost squints but I hope it arrives sooner rather than later, and that it will help all those shiny a-wings people just bought. 4 Elkerlyc, DreadStar, jjohnson111 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreadStar 1,124 Posted October 18, 2014 I really don't care Hobojebus, i am taking a break once wave 5 gets released until wave 6 arrives. I just don't want to get burned with the current playground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreadStar 1,124 Posted October 18, 2014 There's plenty of falcons still. I actually made a post where I added up all the lists and about 55% had either a named falcon, decimator, outrider with HLC, or named phantom with ACD. On a 2 list format, what did you really expect ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catachanninja 3,199 Posted October 19, 2014 Paul Heaver has an Imperial list in there! What is the world coming to??? And more importantly... he's not flying Biggs! I watched the game he played against a dash build, his play is just masterful at times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbpancho 226 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) I'm 3-1 with 5 Z-95s, all Wave 4 stuff. Got Decimated (get it?) by Dallas for my only loss. Just plain outflown. Edited October 19, 2014 by pbpancho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundog8324 440 Posted October 19, 2014 The really fun meta shake up will be wave 6, and their thing that makes interceptor fans happy. And you know the whole 3rd faction thing with lots of new upgrades and the new maneuvers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blail Blerg 6,075 Posted October 19, 2014 i just want the interceptor thing. really badly. why is this game made the way it is. i feel barmy and hoary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
