Kaimuund 59 Posted September 16, 2014 Has anyone else had to deal with this combo? Wedge was trying to take pot shots at my TIE Fighters, knocking their Agility down to 1. This Wedge didn't have an Astromech, but was a 3 Amigos list with Biggs (F2 whats his name, Action +1 Agilty and Stealth Device) and Luke (who had R2 D2 and a hull upgrade). I ran Soontir, Howl and a mini swarm of Academies. Wedge fried Howlrunner with a lucky 1 hit 2 crit shot, while I rolled all blanks. I had PtL on Howl, so she had an Evade and a Focus. The Evade brought me to two crits though, and of course, Direct Hit meant end of days. I used the Academies to squeeze Wedge onto an asteroid for 2 rounds, knocking his shields down and keeping him from vaporizing everything. Then I dog piled Biggs and rolled Wedge. I had 3 TIE's and Soontir left, and luke fried another, and damaged one of the two remaining before Soontir finally lined up a shot. In this instance, I got really really lucky and kept Wedge from lighting everyone up. Have you run this build or against it? What would you match Wedge and Outmaneuver up with, and would you give him a mod/torp/Astromech? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacrossVF1 4,341 Posted September 16, 2014 Super Wedge (thats what we call that particular combo at my club) is indeed nasty but is fairly wasted on low agility ships. Also, since an X-wing isn't quite manouverable enough to take full advantage of the upgrade, Super Wedge can, ironically, be outmanouvered to avoid that the card triggers. 1 Corellian Corvette reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engine25 2,910 Posted September 17, 2014 Yup, outmaneuver is largely wasted on Wedge due to his ability already guaranteeing that he does damage, and also because X wings have trouble keeping themselves outside firing arcs reliably. You'll be lucky to get 1-2 outmaneuver shots a game, IF you can keep him alive past the first exchange so ships break up and give you a better chance of being outside arcs. Outmaneuver is best on highly maneuverable ships that can make contextual mobility actions. Biggest issue there is that most of those ships have upgrades they really NEED, like PtL interceptors. But, I am certainly looking forward to running it on Jake with Push. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TasteTheRainbow 8,636 Posted September 17, 2014 I think we might see some more of super Wedge if Dash is as popular as we think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akodo1 88 Posted September 17, 2014 I have been having fun with Wedge, Engine Upgrade, and Push the Limits. Engine Upgrade would give the maneuverability to utilize Outmaneuver, but Push is really nice. I do have fun running my A-wing 'Greenie' with outmaneuver though. Gives it a little bit more teeth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That One Guy 2,242 Posted September 17, 2014 In my experience (against it), the X-Wing just hasn't been nimble enough for it to come into play. Of the three people to play me with Wedge decked out this way in three different games, someone actually succeeded in lining up that shot only once. 1 Kaimuund reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shado 303 Posted September 17, 2014 Now I want to try Wedge + Outmaneuver + Engine Upgrade + R2 Astromech. Be 37 points, but would probably open up a lot of opportunity to take advantage of that Outmaneuver. Between being able to boost, or K-turn and still have enough green to remain maneuverable while dealing with the stress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SithlordDave 6 Posted September 17, 2014 I've used Wedge + Outmaneuver + R7-T1 with decent effects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slugrage 5,007 Posted September 17, 2014 I've only used the so-called Super Wedge in one match, but it certainly did tear apart the Firespray quite handily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IvlerIin 573 Posted September 17, 2014 Wedge + Outmaneuver + R3A2. Once you've managed to get on your target's tail He's pretty tough to shake. Moreso if there are Ionizers in the squad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duraham 750 Posted September 17, 2014 I find that you really need to pair Outmaneuver Wedge together with ion weapons, in order to be able to make use of Outmaneuver effectively. Most of the time, you would be unable to line up an Outmaneuver shot using a Xwing, even if you have engine upgrade equipped and are moving at PS9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaadea 258 Posted September 17, 2014 Wedge is already one/the main target in a squad, increasing the points spend on him is just wasting those points better spent on his friends. Super Biggs was played a few times over here, and is doing pretty well against normal TIEs, but everything with 3+ attack fries him pretty fast too (and once you got rid of the stealth device and have a TIE at the right spot to block his droid action). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 23,148 Posted September 17, 2014 Outmanuever Wedge is nasty, no doubt, but as others have pointed out wasted against low agility targets and it also requires you to get into your opponent's side or rear arc, which is ironically more difficult against the high agility arc dodgers it's more useful against. It almost requires the use of Engine Upgrade, which in turn takes up your action. Personally I prefer Predator Wedge (Wedator?). Target Lock lite improves the consistency of your damage output in all instances (including while stressed). Lone Wolf could be really good as well. 2 VanorDM and Scizzler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heychadwick 11,354 Posted September 17, 2014 As DarthDave said, I like R7-T1. When is he not in someone's firing arc? It gives him a boost and a target lock for cheaper than PTL and R2....or even just Engine Upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Englishpete 1,379 Posted September 17, 2014 I prefer to use Wedge with Predator, it synergizes really well with his pilot ability and can be used every turn. An R2 unit so I can K turn at will is handy as is a shield upgrade, but that is optional. 1 FTS Gecko reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted September 17, 2014 Wedge, Predator and R5-P9, between Pred and Wedges ability you can likely get away with seldom needing a Focus, which lets him regain shields. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites