"Draw their Fire" and Chewy

[JudgeShamgar 27]

My question is on how to allocate damage to the YT-1300 with this set-up.  

 

If "Draw Their Fire" takes one critical damage from a friendly ship, and Chewy ignores the text on critical hits how does the damage get allocated?  Does it come off the shields?  Is it applied to the hill points with no text applied?  

 

Also how are critical hits applied to ships with shields?  Does it just remove a shield point, or does it go against the hull points?  

 

Thanks.

[DR4CO 6,234]

Critical hits work like any other point of damage; shields first, then hull. They just deal their damage card face up. Chewbacca can pull the critical hit to himself with Draw Their Fire, then (if he has no shields and takes it to the hull) he can use his ability to flip it facedown and ignore it.

[dvorm 1,058]

DTF moves the uncanceled die result to a different ship. After that, that uncanceled die deals damage. Which follows the normal rules for dealing damage. So you check if that ship has a shield. If it does, you never draw a damage card. If it does not, you do draw a face-up damage card.That triggers the pilot ability, turning the card face down.

[Cptnhalfbeard 680]

Chewy ignores the text on critical hits

No he doesn't - he just flips cards face down when they are dealt face up. If an ability were to flip a damage card face up after it had already been dealt, then Chewie suffers the effect just like everyone else.

Be careful about paraphrasing the wording in this game, they choose the wording very specifically to convey a very specific interaction.

[Hobojebus 11,341]

Chewy ignores the text on critical hits

No he doesn't - he just flips cards face down when they are dealt face up. If an ability were to flip a damage card face up after it had already been dealt, then Chewie suffers the effect just like everyone else.

Be careful about paraphrasing the wording in this game, they choose the wording very specifically to convey a very specific interaction.

Rexler for example can make chewie take crits because his ability triggers after, so you take the crit flip it face down then rexler spends his focus flipping it back up.

[Parravon 5,217]

It's a common mistake that most new players make with Chewie. I guess it's most player's initial interpretation when reading the card for the first time. 

[JudgeShamgar 27]

 

Chewy ignores the text on critical hits

No he doesn't - he just flips cards face down when they are dealt face up. If an ability were to flip a damage card face up after it had already been dealt, then Chewie suffers the effect just like everyone else.

Be careful about paraphrasing the wording in this game, they choose the wording very specifically to convey a very specific interaction.

 

 

 

That's a good point.  I usually ask my son to read the card text so we both know exactly what it is saying.  I paraphrased the text on Chewy only for being concise in the forum post.  

 

In the above post dvor states that you never draw damage cards if the defending ship has shields.  How then does a card like "Direct Hit!" work if the ship has shields?  Does the ship take no damage at all because of the shields, or does the ship lose two hull points and keep it's shields?

[Sergovan 1,440]

 

 

Chewy ignores the text on critical hits

No he doesn't - he just flips cards face down when they are dealt face up. If an ability were to flip a damage card face up after it had already been dealt, then Chewie suffers the effect just like everyone else.

Be careful about paraphrasing the wording in this game, they choose the wording very specifically to convey a very specific interaction.

 

 

 

That's a good point.  I usually ask my son to read the card text so we both know exactly what it is saying.  I paraphrased the text on Chewy only for being concise in the forum post.  

 

In the above post dvor states that you never draw damage cards if the defending ship has shields.  How then does a card like "Direct Hit!" work if the ship has shields?  Does the ship take no damage at all because of the shields, or does the ship lose two hull points and keep it's shields?

 

Direct hit never comes into play because you won't draw a card if the damaged ship still has shields, you would simply remove the appropriate number of shield tokens. Also, Direct hit becomes 2 damage to hull (which will take damage only after the shields are gone, except see below).

 

You may be thinking of the Proton Bomb, which doesn't deal damage but deals a face up card, bypassing the removing shields rule altogether, and making a ship able to have a direct hit while still having shields.

 

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/87897-proton-bombs-ignore-shields/

Edited September 6, 2014 by Sergovan

[JudgeShamgar 27]

I reread the rules including the combat example and for whatever reason that I didn't pick up the first few times I get the critical damage rule with regards to shields finally. 

 

Thanks everyone for their responses.  

[JudgeShamgar 27]

UPDATE:  When I told my son the gist of this thread he said "So I was right all along, huh?"

 

Yup, I felt silly alright.