Hybrid 6 Posted May 26, 2009 Please pardon if this question has already been addressed. At a glance I didn't find an answer in the rule books, faq or rules discussion. With a card like, 2 Vengeful Hit Disrupt: After you loose an I struggle, choose a character with an I icon, remove that character from the story it is commited to, then exhaust it if it is not already exhausted E v e n t I am assuming that in order for a player to 'loose' a particular icon struggle said player must have a character commited at the story during that struggle. Or not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donald4 0 Posted May 26, 2009 You can 'Win' (ooops, I meant unloose) an Icon struggle if you are unchallenged at a story, so it should follow you can loose it if you are not there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny shoes 1 Posted May 27, 2009 "Then" indicates that it must be committed to a story to trigger the conditional part. Uncommitted, floating free, just hanging out, otherwise in the field of play, unstorified, swinging single, undeckdiscardhanded characters need not apply, whatever language you find most clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dadajef 0 Posted May 27, 2009 Note, that the card says you can remove a Character from the story it is commited after you lose an I struggle, but this struggle can be from another story. You lose an I struggle in story 1.You choose a character commited (one of yours or one of your opponent) in story 1, 2 or 3.You remove it.You exhaut it. I'm agree with Donald, but it's strange to lose a struggle if you don't commit characters in the story, so I'm agree with you Hybrid too. What's the official rule ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrid 6 Posted May 27, 2009 Maybe my question was unclear because I'm a bit confused by your answer, what does 'then' have to do with it? I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories during the icon struggles? Donalds' reasoning is uhhh.... reasonable but it would be nice to have an official ruling, please? It's not a huge issue but depending on the call 'Vengeful Hit' can go from 'okay' to 'not worth a plug nickle'! johnny shoes said: "Then" indicates that it must be committed to a story to trigger the conditional part. Uncommitted, floating free, just hanging out, otherwise in the field of play, unstorified, swinging single, undeckdiscardhanded characters need not apply, whatever language you find most clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicklewis 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Q: "I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories during the icon struggles?"A: Yes (but it is spelled "Lose") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrid 6 Posted June 3, 2009 Thanks for your input! 'Byte me' (sp?) chicklewis said: Q: "I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories during the icon struggles?"A: Yes (but it is spelled "Lose") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites