cyclopeatron 118 Posted August 18, 2014 I notice that there are a lot of talented and beautiful ladies working for the Galactic Empire. No more Wookie-snugglin' for me, I'm flying for the Empire from now on... More seriously, it seems like the Empire has a much better gender balance than Rebels, especially considering many of their top aces are female - including my favorite pilot, Whisper, which most consider to be a woman. So awesome! I really really like cards with portraits. 2 Parakitor and brutalferret reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,798 Posted August 18, 2014 Ysanne looks like Rogue. Or Sookie Stackhouse. 3 EvilEd209, Vimnock and MNwild reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbok 9,798 Posted August 18, 2014 Ruthelesness looks a little like Juno Eclipse.... which just makes me go ZOMG ZOMG will they do Force Unleashed stuff>!>!>! 2 Hobojebus and ThatJakeGuy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Sword 14,685 Posted August 18, 2014 Fleet Officer reminds me of Allison Haninghan and the bint from Ruthlessness could interrogate me all she wanted. You realize there's a Trandoshan there, too, right? They might always work as a pair. 4 Magnus Grendel, horsepire, stegocent and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 10,596 Posted August 18, 2014 Not a fan of bob cuts, but hey that's awesome.Now, the officer in ruthlessness... Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boy... that's...That's just naughty, folks. 4 TheycamefromBEHIND, Hobojebus, Corellian Corvette and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aminar 1,949 Posted August 18, 2014 Yeah, that expression. Not attractive at all. More terrifying and stay away from me psycho territory. 2 KCDodger and just_chris reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge 4,294 Posted August 18, 2014 My friend Nat looks dead like Howlrunner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 10,596 Posted August 18, 2014 Yeah, that expression. Not attractive at all. More terrifying and stay away from me psycho territory. Which is oddly fitting. 3 Magnus Grendel, Corellian Corvette and oneway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilEd209 1,474 Posted August 18, 2014 Where were this pics from, the RPG? And did they show Echo or Whisper, both who are female? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge 4,294 Posted August 18, 2014 haha, she's in 'it's complicated' phase at the moment I'd put a pic up but i dont think its fair without her consent. She's actually grown the bob cut out a lot now but when i met her she looked exactly like howlrunner does in that pic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclopeatron 118 Posted August 18, 2014 Where were this pics from, the RPG? And did they show Echo or Whisper, both who are female? The Howlrunner pic is a card from the new Armada game. Someone snapped this at GenCon and the image has been circulating. I guess her squadron comes with the core set...? I'd like to get a better print of the Howlrunner portrait to put on my X-Wing box. I play Howlrunner pretty regularly. I just love the expression and the bangs... Such a cool ace pilot! I also hope we get portraits and/or backgrounds on Echo and Whisper at some point... And hopefully we'll get more females aces for the Rebels too. I mean, the dudes with mustaches are funny and all, but I want to fly more bad@ss female pilots. Maybe S&V will have better options... 1 EvilEd209 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hothie 1,719 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Shhwing! If she was a bounty hunter, she would be "Babe-a Fett." "If she was a Sith lord, she would be Darth Babe-r." "Yeah, if she was a Rebel pilot, her ship would be a shh-wing!" Edited August 18, 2014 by hothie 9 EvilEd209, Hobojebus, Truegreek and 6 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadge 4,294 Posted August 18, 2014 Its cool how her armada 'bonus' mirrors her xwing bonus. Clearly there must be some thought into 'swtiching between scales' going on here and continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aadh 385 Posted August 18, 2014 *swoon* The actress that portrayed her in the Jedi Knight cutscenes is a knockout. 2 Boomer_J and KCDodger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 We've had this discussion a number of times. Last time, before Wave 5 was spoiled, the Reb's were ahead by 1 or 2 female cards. I think with Wave 5 it puts the Empire ahead by like 1. So it's pretty evenly balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclopeatron 118 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) We've had this discussion a number of times. Last time, before Wave 5 was spoiled, the Reb's were ahead by 1 or 2 female cards. I think with Wave 5 it puts the Empire ahead by like 1. So it's pretty evenly balanced. Fair enough, but I count named pilot as more interesting than supporting crew. I think the Empire surely wins for female named pilots, right...? Howlrunner, Whisper (assumption), Kath Scarlet. Others...? Are there any named Rebel pilots that are female? I hope this trend isn't repeating the sad and stupid history of Lucas actively cutting female pilots out of the movies. Edited August 18, 2014 by cyclopeatron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 I think the Empire surely wins for female named pilots, right...? No. You have Howlrunner and Kath. We don't actually know the gender of either Phantom pilot. Echo has been referred to as both he and she in official articles. Whisper has never been refereed to with a gender based pronoun that I know of. So Imperial side you have 2 pilots. Rebel side, you have Jan Ors, Ibtisam and Nera Dantels, giving the Good Guys 3 lady pilots. 1 cyclopeatron reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) "Echo" is totes a chick bro. No he's not, and here's the proof. For the record if I had to have a preference I'd prefer one of the Phantom pilots were female... But honestly I don't care. From A New Imperial Protocol by Doug Kinny Veteran Instincts gets “Whisper” up to a pilot skill value of “9,” further helping to ensure he will attack first, and Sensor Jammer will further increase his survivability. Ctrl+f finds no instance of She. In "Echo" by Neil Amswych in the section before Neil's part, written by someone at FFG you have this... Today, guest writer Neil Amswych (“The Tusken Tactician”) takes a closer look at one of these pilots, “Echo,” and the ways that he may revolutionize how your games of X-Wing are fought and won. Then Neil goes on to say this... Because he uses the bank “2” template instead of the straight “2” template, he can decloak to any of six different locations, enabling him to end his maneuver at any of a dizzying array of ninety final possible locations. Again the word She does not show up in that article. Finally from Cloaked in Battle we have and “Echo,” who must use the “2” bank template when he decloaks, has a pilot skill value of “6.”It goes on to refer to Echo as he twice more in the example images. And for the 3rd strike, again no instance of She. There is in fact no article on the FFG page that I can find that refers to either Echo or Whisper as a she. There was one I remember seeing it, but it looks like FFG edited it. So clearly both Echo and Whisper are males, unless there's something out there I haven't seen or missed. Edit: Even if Echo or Whisper were a woman, it would still only tie the Rebel's in named female pilots. Yeah the FAQ. So we have 1 FAQ vs 3 articles, with about 6+ references to Echo as a He. Edited August 18, 2014 by VanorDM 1 Nataris reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclopeatron 118 Posted August 18, 2014 There is in fact no article on the FFG page that I can find that refers to either Echo or Whisper as a she. There was one I remember seeing it, but it looks like FFG edited it. So clearly both Echo and Whisper are males, unless there's something out there I haven't seen or missed. This really sucks... The overall gender imbalance in X-Wing (and the original Star Wars movies) is totally lame. This is one area that Warmachine / Hordes shines in - a lot of the best casters, solos, and units are ladies. 2 JBouthietteJr and Blail Blerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnightHammer 293 Posted August 18, 2014 Hmmm Fleet Officer - Good girl Ruthlessness chick - Bad giiiirrrrrrlll I like the fleet officer and I like the Ruthlessness chick, but which ones better, there's only one way to find out....FIGHT!!!!! If you are a fan of Harry Hill you will get that very quickly lol **** I know the Empire has a bit of a bad rep with employing women in the ranks but when they do, wow 2 JD0GE and 0Dark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 The overall gender imbalance in X-Wing (and the original Star Wars movies) is totally lame. I agree, but Lucas did break a few boundaries in regards to gender. Leia was not a typical female character for the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 **** I know the Empire has a bit of a bad rep with employing women in the ranks but when they do, wow Yeah, it's almost like you have to be attractive to get ahead in the Empire if your a woman... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martel 53 Posted August 18, 2014 There is in fact no article on the FFG page that I can find that refers to either Echo or Whisper as a she. There was one I remember seeing it, but it looks like FFG edited it. So clearly both Echo and Whisper are males, unless there's something out there I haven't seen or missed. This really sucks... The overall gender imbalance in X-Wing (and the original Star Wars movies) is totally lame. This is one area that Warmachine / Hordes shines in - a lot of the best casters, solos, and units are ladies. WTF does this matter? Maybe save your social justice crusade for something that isnt a fantasy game set far far away and long long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13713 132 Posted August 18, 2014 "Echo" is totes a chick bro. From the FFG FAQ which is official documentation right. Ergo she's got bresticles. Mind blown! FFG/Star Wars the first pro transgender gaming system. 4 Mikael Hasselstein, Cyberkaiju, cyclopeatron and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanorDM 11,599 Posted August 18, 2014 FFG/Star Wars the first pro transgender gaming system. Either the FAQ is typo, or else "Echo" and "Whisper" are actually code names used by who ever happens to be flying those ships. 2 Martel and Wookie Hunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites