Developing List: Echos of Vader's Past

[Rakky Wistol 2,903]

Any reason you wouldn't VI Vader and Decoy Whisper? Then you could decoy up or down as needed.

[Morgan Reid 50]

Any reason you wouldn't VI Vader and Decoy Whisper? Then you could decoy up or down as needed.

*edit* 2 Phantoms shooting at 9 is a pretty good reason! Not quite what you are after but an interesting option.

Edited August 11, 2014 by McBain

[blade_mercurial 2,091]

Any reason you wouldn't VI Vader and Decoy Whisper? Then you could decoy up or down as needed.

But then the Sigma can't shoot at PS9

 

 

Any reason you wouldn't VI Vader and Decoy Whisper? Then you could decoy up or down as needed.

3 ships shooting at 9 is a pretty good reason! Not quite what you are after but an interesting option - I like it.

 

Actually, its only 2 ships shooting at PS9.  Decoy means Vader shoots at the Sigma's PS 3

Edited August 10, 2014 by blade_mercurial

[polmoneys 199]

Any reason you wouldn't VI Vader and Decoy Whisper? Then you could decoy up or down as needed.

Vader & Sigma stay together, Whisper flanks and there is not much more secret to it. It just works this way and while the strategy is obvious there is not much you can do to beat it except lots of lucky reds and kill sigma or Whisper in the alpha strike. Vader is like the hardest to kill bastard in the galaxy!

[Rakky Wistol 2,903]

You want swarm tactics on Vader for what you want to work.

Turning it up to 11 has been a bit too meta. As previously noted, outmaneuver on Vader seems a lot better.

[Englishpete 1,379]

I would say the Recon on Echo isn't needed, lose that and the Proton Rocket and put EU on Vader. You then have 2 serious threats instead of one.

 

I think you also have enough points then for Tactician on Echo, which is a good ploy.

 

Just my thoughts.

[polmoneys 199]

You want swarm tactics on Vader for what you want to work.

Turning it up to 11 has been a bit too meta. As previously noted, outmaneuver on Vader seems a lot better.

 

I think Decoy is better as it's range 2. 

[oneway 1,878]

You want swarm tactics on Vader for what you want to work.

Turning it up to 11 has been a bit too meta. As previously noted, outmaneuver on Vader seems a lot better.

 

I think Decoy is better as it's range 2.

It is, but it swaps the pilot skill, not what swarm does. Which is what it sounds like you want.

[Rakky Wistol 2,903]

Decoy swaps

Swarm allows you to use same PS for both

See...so many 2-3 pt upgrade swaps in this list... Again, the inevitable advanced buff is going to open up so much awesome here!

Not using proton rockets on an outmaneuver packing Vader seems pretty silly. It's a close to 5 auto damage as you can get and only 3pts. 0-1 Agility = you take 5 damage. 2 Agility = you take 4-5 damage. 3 Agility and you pretty much still auto take 2 damage.