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Magnetic Playmat Project

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    WOW, it's an awesome idea, it give you the estability and don't let the ships move accidentaly in the game, congratulations, greettings.

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Just got a quote from a printing firm  who can do the whole job for me:

 

Further to your recent enquiry, I have pleasure in submitting our estimate to meet your requirements as follows.

Title:  Magnetic Banner.

Origination/Press: From PDF supplied

Proofs:

Colour: Four colour process one side only

Size:  914 X 914 mm

Material: Gloss Self Adhesive Vinyl

Finishing: Trimmed to size and mounted onto 0.5mm white plain faced Ferro. Packed suitably.

Delivery: To one UK address.

Price (ex VAT)
x1   £59.00

x5  £194.00

x10  £366.00

 

 

so about £72 including VAT (tax) and delivery for a one-off, or around £46 if I can find 9 other people who want one.

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I have actually had the pleasure of having my face kicked in while playing on this magnetic mat, and it is to my great surprise that I log on today and see this topic and finally find this guy on FFG. I'm telling all of you, the photos and commentary really doesn't do it justice, it's one of the coolest additions I've ever seen to the game. Major props!

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Ah drat, bannersonthecheap doesn't ship to Europe :(

 

Anyone know a good alternative for vinyl banners for us Europeans (the sites I can find don't offer 3' x 3' for size)?

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Ah drat, bannersonthecheap doesn't ship to Europe :(

 

Anyone know a good alternative for vinyl banners for us Europeans (the sites I can find don't offer 3' x 3' for size)?

 

just take a walk onto your local trading park - there's bound to be a few printing firms there - if they don't know what feet and inches are just ask them for a 914mm x 914mm printed banner - failing that get a 1m x 1m -  have them crop it for you down to that size, or just do it yourself,

if you can supply the graphics (you'll want a 300dpi image ideally) you should be able to pick the print up the same day.

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I've spent the last week or so contacting various local printing firms to find one who could make me one of these at a price that wasn't exorbitant (some quotes were in the region of £200 each!!)

 

It took a while, but I finally found a local printing firm who were able to source a mag receptive sheet that can be printed on directly, and then apply a thin transparent veneer on top to protect the print., So it's a slightly different approach to the OP's technique of having a banner printed which then needs to be mounted on the mag receptive material.

 

While they're still not cheap, this brings the cost down significantly.

 

They were even kind enough to make up a quick and dirty prototype for me to take home and try out free of charge.

 

I've ordered 2 for myself - 1 3x3, 1 6x3 and 4 3x3 mats that I'm going to put on eBay to hopefully make my money back.

 

ps - sorry about the crap pics :D

 

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I design custom-painted  X-Wing boards that are also magnet-sensitive. They are not as portable as a rollable mat, but, on the other hand, each one is a hand-painted, unique work of art.  Check one out below, and if you are interested in buying one, contact me for more information!

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206372690615675&set=a.10201416938244963.1073741824.1220002865&type=1&theater

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I've always thought about figuring out a good way to magnetize asteroids to do this sort of thing with because those guys side around way too much for my liking without much recourse.

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Magnetise the movement dials, templates, various other icons and you will be able to play on the wall.

 

Cheers!

Eboli

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I've always thought about figuring out a good way to magnetize asteroids to do this sort of thing with because those guys side around way too much for my liking without much recourse.

 

you could drill little holes into the asteroid tokens and glue little Neodymium magnets into them.

 

But a simpler solution is Blu-Tack

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The problem I ran into with that is that virtually all of the magnetic sheeting products I could find had the magnetically strong side opposite that of the adhesive--so I'd be gluing my banner to the weak side, which has almost no magnetic attractive force.  I was worried that I wouldn't have enough magnetic strength to hold onto a washer, etc glued to the bottom of the ship base.  I decided to go with magnetically receptive material, which can have magnets grip both sides equally well, and put the magnets on the ship bases instead.

 

You could use rare earth magnets instead of the other.  I would only worry that they had too much strength! 

 

So....lots of people finding companies in the UK that would make these things with images on them.  Anyone know of a company that would print them on the magnetic sheets in the US?  I'm sure I could find 9 other guys to go get their own mats. 

 

I also thought you could probably get a 3x3 sheet of metal and put the banner on top.  Not sure on the price, but then use rare earth under your ships.  Not the best for travel, but might be a great idea for the local shop. 

 

There is also someone on BGG that used some cabinet door bumpers under his minis.  They are little rubber nubs that stop your kitchen cabinet doors from slamming.  He stated that they make the ship hard to move on any playable surface.  It might be a bit cheaper than this truly awesome set up.  He stated that 2.5mm nubs are the best and I can't seem to find that size in the US.  It's .09 inches. 

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You could use rare earth magnets instead of the other.  I would only worry that they had too much strength! 

 

So....lots of people finding companies in the UK that would make these things with images on them.  Anyone know of a company that would print them on the magnetic sheets in the US?  I'm sure I could find 9 other guys to go get their own mats. 

 

I also thought you could probably get a 3x3 sheet of metal and put the banner on top.  Not sure on the price, but then use rare earth under your ships.  Not the best for travel, but might be a great idea for the local shop. 

 

There is also someone on BGG that used some cabinet door bumpers under his minis.  They are little rubber nubs that stop your kitchen cabinet doors from slamming.  He stated that they make the ship hard to move on any playable surface.  It might be a bit cheaper than this truly awesome set up.  He stated that 2.5mm nubs are the best and I can't seem to find that size in the US.  It's .09 inches. 

 

 

The first link I found for an appropriate material was actually from a US company (forgotten it now though - sorry) - it was considerably more difficult to find the UK alternative brand - but if you approach a decent printing firm that specialises in printing onto flexible plastics, they will probably know what to use.

 

My advice would be to find a local business that has had some advertising banners printed and ask them where they had them done - they will probably have shopped around themselves to find a good price so they will have done some of the leg-work for you.

Next, contact the printing firm and explain exactly what you want done and what you want it for - send pictures to illustrate it - I had plenty of false starts and eye-wateringly expensive quotes until I took this approach.

 

Magnetic receptive material is definitely better than a directly magnetic material -  One, because it performs better, Two because it's significantly cheaper and Three, because it has greater longevity - flexible magnets lose their strength over time - it's far easier and cheaper to replace a few magnets on your bases than it is to replace your mat.

 

Rare earth magnets are too powerful and cost more than you need to spend - after trying a few different approaches, I found that all you really want is a nice firm hold on the surface - you don't want to be lifting the entire mat or have the ship come away in your hand every time you move a piece.

Shop around for some self-adhesive flexible plastic magnetic strip - a metre long strip of the stuff costs about £4 or less and is more than enough to base every ship in your fleet - some strip seems to be better than others  though.

This stuff was pretty good:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-703514-Flexible-Magnetic-Tape/dp/B007OUO4YC

This stuff not-so-much:

http://www.first4magnets.com/tape-strip-magnets-c85/flexible-magnets-t141#t70:t165

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I find that glueing a piece of mouse pad to the bottom of my bases keeps them from sliding around on most surfaces.  It also adds a little weight for stability to the base as well.  I cut the mouse pad into squares that just fit into the bottom of the base & glue them in with super glue.  You can also paint the mouse pad or base before you glue it in place to add more color to your game. 

Just make sure to use the proper thickness of mouse pad... :)

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?????

This is a bizarre thread.

There was a young girl on KS last year trying to crowd fund magnetic mats of a higher quality for around £55 to £60 each.

All you would then need to do was buy some magnetic shim material for the base of your ships.

Pity she didn't advertise it on here as she might have found a very positive response.

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I find that glueing a piece of mouse pad to the bottom of my bases keeps them from sliding around on most surfaces.  It also adds a little weight for stability to the base as well.  I cut the mouse pad into squares that just fit into the bottom of the base & glue them in with super glue.  You can also paint the mouse pad or base before you glue it in place to add more color to your game. 

Just make sure to use the proper thickness of mouse pad... :)

 

I've thought about doing this as I actually have a stack of old mouse pads.  Would you recommend it? 

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I hope to one day see someone play X-Wing on a planet / sphere.

 

And all these magnetized bases are just begging to be put on a metal globe.

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Interesting. I weight all my small bases with 'steel' 2 pence coins (UK) which are a perfect thickness. I'm already using magnetic sheets fixed to the bottom of a carrycase for transporting my minis. Magnetic playing mats would reduce the risk of clumsy manouvers.

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I ended up going with kitchen cabinet bumpers.  You know, the little rubber things that prevent cabinet doors from slamming?  I bought a bunch of these cheap and attach them to the bottom of the bases.

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Sorry that I am noticing this thread a month after a question was asked of me, but I very much recommend the use of mouse pad squares under your small ships.  I am still perfecting the use of the mouse pad material under the large/huge ship bases, since the center of some of those bases is lower than the edges, especially with the huge bases (they have a circle of plastic that protrudes through to the bottom of the base).  I don't play much on yoga or mouse pad material mats, but the mouse pad bases work wonderfully on vinyl mats. 

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Sorry for the necromancy, but I absolutely love this, and am adding it to my idea list! 

 

Quick question for the few people who've done this - has anyone tried spray painting a layer of matte varnish (Testor's Dullcote or Krylon Matte Finish) over these?  I love the look, but am not a fan of the gloss.  

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