Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 10, 2014 And some will say 3 is amazing or 4 is bordering bonkers (the good kind)...kinda. Inspired by this list (which is currently tearing up the Galactic Cup): Venus Fel Trap: http://teamcovenant.com/fuamatu/2014/03/21/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lambdas/ Omi+Vader Omi+ FCS x2 Fel + PTL I tried: Omi + Vader Omi + FCS Mauler + Swarm Tactics Sigma + Stigian + Jammer + Recon It was a lot of fun and beat the snot out of a Cracken Swarm. It is certainly not an improvement on Dom's list but was really nice for a phantom build that moves away from Echo/Whisper+ ACD. I am thinking Howlrunner + swarm is probably even better (nothing like free rerolls on 4 and 5 dice ships). Just wish there was a better PS pilot to swarm off of that wasn't so expensive so it could actually really get the goat of some high PS PIlots (Vader shuttle shooting on 9 ?!?!). 1 admat reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilhelm Screamer 1,229 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Why stop at just 2, take Yorr's Dirty four go in all the way man follow your dreams and make it real Edited July 10, 2014 by Wilhelm Screamer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 10, 2014 Oh deary. Or Dairy...not sure which is more fitting. Haven't tried that particular brand of moooosanity. Trying to keep it to 2-3. 4 tricks em once or twice but the stampede is a little less terrifying in the world of white kturns and phantoms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) 2-0 with the list. Picked apart a Roark/ibi/2rook list. How does this moonster keep surprising even me (who likes and plays them a lot)??? Edited July 10, 2014 by Rakky Wistol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 10, 2014 3-0. Got very lucky vs. swarm with 3 timely direct hit Vader crits and then the phantom and Mauler cleaned up. First game where mauler felt worth his points (swarming Vader shuttle to PS 7 is nice vs. sheildless). I'd like to do something else with him but that PS bump for phantom or Vader has been oh so useful. I guess he finishes ships off well enough. Well planned asteroid placement is vital for this list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R2ShihTzu 1,867 Posted July 10, 2014 I really don't have a high opinion of the Shuttle. Generally speaking, I play high maneuverability ships, so I tend to look at a shuttle across the table as an auto-win. Even with normal ships, if you just flank the thing, it has virtually no answer. Without any arrogance, I am seriously trying to remember when I have lost to a list with just one, much less two or more shuttles; the maneuverability just kills them. After the point you put Advanced Sensors and Engine Upgrade on them, you are getting close to a Bounty Hunter which I would rather have any day of the week. I dunno. Maybe I just play against bad shuttle builds. I use it occasionally as a Doom Shuttle, but haven't ever really enjoyed the Buzzsaw or any of the other builds at all. Sorry for the buzzkill; just have never gotten into the shuttle despite the empassioned defenses by SableGryphon and others. I'd love to see it on the table to prove me wrong; I just have never seen it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 11, 2014 Finally lost to a dual defender build. Just couldn't finish off the last defender and the dice finally swung it his favor. 3-1 ain't half bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phild0 1,735 Posted July 11, 2014 Here is a variation I've been using since the Imdaar Alpha time frame. Id recommend giving it a try since it so similar. Echo + VI + ACD + FCS Omicron + Darth Vader Omicron + FCS Backstabber Stabber just feels like a better buy more often than not. Dropping ti Night Beast for 99pt bid is good too. Or the FCS on the Shuttle to make room for Sensor Jammer, or find a way to get Recon Spec / Rebel Captive. Putting Whisper in won't be a bad choice either. There's always... Echo VI ACD FCS 3 x Omicron 100pts Hehe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites