Rakky Wistol 2,903 Posted July 1, 2014 Draco is awesome... I think it's just baseline royal guard +1 (23pts). Solid Here is who I like for a z-95 forward scout: Taffer Jackson: PS 5 : you may deploy touching any asteroid. You are not considered overlapping during your first turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Maes 522 Posted July 1, 2014 Ok, not a ship or a pilot, but something based on my custom Z-95 for Lt Blount... before FFG came out with an official one... Recon Package Modification? Title? "Replace any ordnance (missile or torpedo) with System Upgrade." Cost:? 1 That One Guy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revanchist 1,063 Posted July 1, 2014 Draco is awesome... I think it's just baseline royal guard +1 (23pts). Solid Here is who I like for a z-95 forward scout: Taffer Jackson: PS 5 : you may deploy touching any asteroid. You are not considered overlapping during your first turn. I'd say 16–17 points, that's actually a pretty decent ability. I'm guessing he has no EPT, or else that could actually be kinda nasty. Ok, not a ship or a pilot, but something based on my custom Z-95 for Lt Blount... before FFG came out with an official one... Recon Package Modification? Title? "Replace any ordnance (missile or torpedo) with System Upgrade." Cost:? That would be game changingly good. TIE Bombers with FCS? Yes please! Advanced Sensors TIE Defender? Count me in!! Dutch with FCS, Hobbie with FCS, Kath with EH + AdvS . . . The list just goes on. I'd say 4 points. Qorl (TIE/LN, PS 7, EPT): When defending, any critical hits from the attacker are automatically cancelled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engine25 2,910 Posted July 2, 2014 18 Points for Qorl. Less Pilot Skill but more durable than Howlrunner. Obi-Wan Kenobi PS5 Y-Wing No EPT When you receive a stress token, you may choose one ship at Range 1-2. That ship may perform one free action. YT-2400 PS6 After you perform a barrel roll action, you may receive one focus token or select one ship at Range 1-2. You may assign that ship an evade token. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R22 1,065 Posted July 3, 2014 Obi-Wan Kenobi PS5 Y-Wing No EPT When you receive a stress token, you may choose one ship at Range 1-2. That ship may perform one free action. YT-2400 PS6 After you perform a barrel roll action, you may receive one focus token or select one ship at Range 1-2. You may assign that ship an evade token. I've never been good at gauging points but 22 for "The Negotiator" and 34/5 for the YT? LOV'N this thread btw, great to see people's ideas. Keep it going! What about wave IV and V ships?! A-wing PS7 Your action bar gains the barrel roll icon. Barrel rolls may be performed for free when within range 1 of an enemy ship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilrolo 12 Posted July 3, 2014 30 pts not only a high PS but a new action and a special action on top of that... Fleet Sentry Pilot TIE Defender PS 5 EPL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundog8324 440 Posted July 4, 2014 Probably 34 Dak PS5 EPT Y-wing When attacking someone outside of your firing arc you may force the defender to reroll 1 defense die Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 5,719 Posted July 4, 2014 24, I think. Edor Crespin, A-wing, PS8 After you perform an attack with a secondary weapon, you may perform a free boost action. Then you may perform a primary weapon attack. The idea is that the boost is optional, but saying no won't prevent your free attack. Not quite sure how to word it to make sure of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 3,079 Posted July 4, 2014 29 points I think. Extra attacks are really good even on an a-wing. Mine: "Yakown Reth" E-Wing, PS6, EPT Ability: "Once per turn, when attacking or defending, you may receive one stress to change one of your blank results to a focus" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasatka 157 Posted July 4, 2014 Mine: "Yakown Reth" E-Wing, PS6, EPT Ability: "Once per turn, when attacking or defending, you may receive one stress to change one of your blank results to a focus" 33 points, it's a versatile ability that gives the player great choice in how to configure an already potent ship. Jerec Crew Member, Empire Only Ability: Once per turn in between the planning and activation phases, you may look at the maneuver dial of a ship within range 3 of this ship. You may then, if you have no stress tokens, receive 1 stress token to adjust your maneuver dial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bubblepopmei 1,155 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aminar 1,949 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" 33 points.The ability to move backwards before actions is unhealthily good. That ship can full stop for free. And because this still hasn't gotten a points cost Tycho celchu with his A wing ability in a PS8 shuttle with an EPT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryther 208 Posted July 4, 2014 C3PO - YT-1300 PS 0 Regenerate 1 shield and discard 1 damage card a turn. 2 attack 5 shield 8 hull 1 defense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundog8324 440 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" 33 points.The ability to move backwards before actions is unhealthily good. That ship can full stop for free. And because this still hasn't gotten a points cost Tycho celchu with his A wing ability in a PS8 shuttle with an EPT. I would guess 29pts, a permanently parked shuttle with 2 actions a turn could be very annoying C3PO - YT-1300 PS 0 Regenerate 1 shield and discard 1 damage card a turn. 2 attack 5 shield 8 hull 1 defense 42 points, I think that ability is so much better than Chewbacca's ignore crits being PS0 and losing an attack makes them even, if that ability just isn't outright broken (which I am 90% sure it is, being able to regen 2 HP a turn is just gonna be OP) R2D2 X-wing PS 3 EPT instead of a Droid slot this ship has a crew slot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Dust 25 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" 33 points.The ability to move backwards before actions is unhealthily good. That ship can full stop for free. And because this still hasn't gotten a points cost Tycho celchu with his A wing ability in a PS8 shuttle with an EPT. I would guess 29pts, a permanently parked shuttle with 2 actions a turn could be very annoying C3PO - YT-1300 PS 0 Regenerate 1 shield and discard 1 damage card a turn. 2 attack 5 shield 8 hull 1 defense 42 points, I think that ability is so much better than Chewbacca's ignore crits being PS0 and losing an attack makes them even, if that ability just isn't outright broken (which I am 90% sure it is, being able to regen 2 HP a turn is just gonna be OP) R2D2 X-wing PS 3 EPT instead of a Droid slot this ship has a crew slot 25 points, there are some strong crew that it can use. Now for some crew Grand Admiral Thrawn Huge ship only, Imperial only Action- Remove all stress tokens from friendly ships in range 1-3 and then they may all take a free action. Grand Moff Tarkin Imperial only Your ships are not destroyed untill the end of combat Emperor Palpatine Imperial only all your ships cost 1 point less Captain Pellaeon Huge ship only, Imperial only This shop may preform two actions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aminar 1,949 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" 33 points.The ability to move backwards before actions is unhealthily good. That ship can full stop for free. And because this still hasn't gotten a points cost Tycho celchu with his A wing ability in a PS8 shuttle with an EPT. I would guess 29pts, a permanently parked shuttle with 2 actions a turn could be very annoying R2D2 X-wing PS 3 EPT instead of a Droid slot this ship has a crew slot Note that Tycho does not allow use of red manuevers while stressed, justactions while stressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aminar 1,949 Posted July 4, 2014 jerec for 3 pts. TIE Phantom, "Static" PS 6 Ability "You may decloak to the reverse in addition to sides and forward" 33 points.The ability to move backwards before actions is unhealthily good. That ship can full stop for free. And because this still hasn't gotten a points cost Tycho celchu with his A wing ability in a PS8 shuttle with an EPT. I would guess 29pts, a permanently parked shuttle with 2 actions a turn could be very annoying C3PO - YT-1300 PS 0 Regenerate 1 shield and discard 1 damage card a turn. 2 attack 5 shield 8 hull 1 defense 42 points, I think that ability is so much better than Chewbacca's ignore crits being PS0 and losing an attack makes them even, if that ability just isn't outright broken (which I am 90% sure it is, being able to regen 2 HP a turn is just gonna be OP) R2D2 X-wing PS 3 EPT instead of a Droid slot this ship has a crew slot 25 points, there are some strong crew that it can use. Now for some crew Grand Admiral Thrawn Huge ship only, Imperial only Action- Remove all stress tokens from friendly ships in range 1-3 and then they may all take a free action. 30 points. Seriously broken. About 6 if you discard it after use. Otherwise it is just too good. Grand Moff Tarkin Imperial only Your ships are not destroyed untill the end of combat 7 points for affecting ships within range 1. Really needs a range restriction at that cost. Nullifies the advantage of PS. It's not balanceable in the regular game. Emperor Palpatine Imperial only all your ships cost 1 point less Um... This can't be costed either. Too good in epic. Not good enough in 100 points. maybe pay 3 per 100 points, but even then it's odd.If anything give him a negative point cost and have him do nothing. Captain Pellaeon Huge ship only, Imperial only This shop may preform two actions 2 actions per section? An extra action? The wording could mean multiple things. Piggy PS6 X-Wing This ship has a hull value of 4 and a shield value of 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R22 1,065 Posted July 4, 2014 PiggyPS6 X-Wing This ship has a hull value of 4 and a shield value of 3. That's a butch X-wing, say 27? A-wing Polearm Squadron Pilot PS4, no EPT You may take a system upgrade instead of a missile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aminar 1,949 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Piggy PS6 X-Wing This ship has a hull value of 4 and a shield value of 3. That's a butch X-wing, say 27? A-wing Polearm Squadron Pilot PS4, no EPT You may take a system upgrade instead of a missile. 19. I'm not a fan of costing upgrade slots so the gain of PS but loss of EPT makes it identical to a GSP in my mind. It theoretically costs 2 points more anyway.E-wing PS4 EPT Built in Expose action. Edited July 4, 2014 by Aminar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerfuffin925 46 Posted July 4, 2014 19. I'm not a fan of costing upgrade slots so the gain of PS but loss of EPT makes it identical to a GSP in my mind. It theoretically costs 2 points more anyway.E-wing PS4 EPT Built in Expose action. 31, which is two points less than expose if the PS3 E-wing had an EPT built in. IG-88B FireSpray-31 You make take actions while stressed; it only takes one ion token to ionize this ship Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundog8324 440 Posted July 5, 2014 19. I'm not a fan of costing upgrade slots so the gain of PS but loss of EPT makes it identical to a GSP in my mind. It theoretically costs 2 points more anyway.E-wing PS4 EPT Built in Expose action. 31, which is two points less than expose if the PS3 E-wing had an EPT built in. IG-88B FireSpray-31 You make take actions while stressed; it only takes one ion token to ionize this ship I would venture around 38 points depending on the PS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundog8324 440 Posted July 5, 2014 Mirax Terrik YT-2400 PS 6 EPT When attacking if the you may assign 1 Ion token to the target for every uncancelled "crit" they suffer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grudge 23 Posted July 5, 2014 My take on a scout: Kev Storme A-Wing PS 5 At the start of Combat Phase, you may choose an enemy ship within Range 1. Reduce that ship's agility by 1 (to a minimum of 0) for the rest of that Combat Phase. And an experienced squad leader/instructor: Gordon Mes Y-Wing PS 6 After performing a green maneuver, you may assign a focus token a friendly ship within Range 1. For the Imperials: "Death" TIE Advanced PS 8 (EPT) At the start of the Activation Phase, you may increase your Primary Attack by 1. Then, receive 1 Stress. And his wing-mate: "Death's Hand" TIE Advanced PS 6 (EPT) At the start of the Activation Phase, you may remove 1 Stress Token from "Death," if he's within Range 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That One Guy 2,242 Posted July 5, 2014 A-Wing, 24 points. That ability is awesome. Y-Wing, also 24 points. Death, though I would word it slightly differently, 24-25 points. And yes, I know Maarek is 27 but the **** things cost too much anyway. Hand, 21. He's a severely limited pilot in a crap ship that makes you take two crap ships if you want his ability to matter at all. Ok, I know I've said these before but I want opinions here. Grand Admiral Thrawn Imperial only. Huge ship only. Increase the Pilot Skill value of all friendly ships by 2. Commander Sarklii Imperial only. Huge or Large ship only. (so you can't put him on a Phantom) Decrease the Pilot Skill Value of all enemy ships by 2, to a minimum of 1. whoever gives the points for these, can you give two totals? One for if the abilities modify PS by 2, and the other for if they only modify it by 1. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revanchist 1,063 Posted July 5, 2014 A-Wing, 24 points. That ability is awesome. Y-Wing, also 24 points. Death, though I would word it slightly differently, 24-25 points. And yes, I know Maarek is 27 but the **** things cost too much anyway. Hand, 21. He's a severely limited pilot in a crap ship that makes you take two crap ships if you want his ability to matter at all. Ok, I know I've said these before but I want opinions here. Grand Admiral Thrawn Imperial only. Huge ship only. Increase the Pilot Skill value of all friendly ships by 2. Commander Sarklii Imperial only. Huge or Large ship only. (so you can't put him on a Phantom) Decrease the Pilot Skill Value of all enemy ships by 2, to a minimum of 1. whoever gives the points for these, can you give two totals? One for if the abilities modify PS by 2, and the other for if they only modify it by 1. Thanks. Hmm. I'd say for Thrawn he'd cost 5 points of the PS is raised by two, and 3 points if it is raised by 1. Sarklii is actually a more dangerous one as he can be put on Large ships as well. I'd point him out at 6 points for the 2 PS reduction and 4 points for the 1 PS reduction. Now for my ship: Fel's Wrath (Updated, PS 5, no EPT): choose one friendly ship at range 1–2. You may forfeit your attack to add two attack dice to that ship's attack. You may not do this if the defender is outside your firing arc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites