Nyxen 1,605 Posted June 29, 2014 This is solely based off of the Phantom upgrades Stygium particle accelerator and advanced cloaking device. One is phantom unique and the other is not. Coincidence? That's up to the devs I suppose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norsehound 2,737 Posted June 29, 2014 They already exist. Put a Stealth Device on an X-Wing. Bam! Stealth X-Wing. 6 stegocent, Red G, AndiOne and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buhallin 4,518 Posted June 29, 2014 This is solely based off of the Phantom upgrades Stygium particle accelerator and advanced cloaking device. One is phantom unique and the other is not. Coincidence? That's up to the devs I suppose. The Advanced Cloaking Device, if put on any ship, would grant any ship the ability to cloak. Hence, Phantom only. The Stygium Particle Accelerator is triggered by a cloak/decloak, so only a ship which an already cloak will get any benefit from it. So no real need to make the SPA Phantom-only. As to whether we'll see another cloaking ship... <shrug> Who knows? But I wouldn't count on it. The by-now infamous Stealth-X didn't actually have a cloaking device. The Phantom is pretty unique in that regard, for small ships at least. 3 AdmiralThrawn, oneway and X Wing Nut reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qapla187 223 Posted June 29, 2014 Too bad ACD is phantom only, Han Cloaks First anyone? 1 Hobojebus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pygon 375 Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Geek reflex on. Actually he'd cloak last because it's an action. Geek reflex off. Edit: Ok, fine, it involves shooting. Edited June 29, 2014 by Pygon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCDodger 10,596 Posted June 30, 2014 I'd certainly like to see it, but it's a bit... Niche? Not exactly needed?Rather see a Missile Boat or something with a tractor beam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skargoth 1,703 Posted June 30, 2014 Pretty thorough thread. Aminar debunked my speculation pretty early. http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/108926-shrouded-future-cloaking-speculations/#entry1125346 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnfairBanana 2,251 Posted June 30, 2014 I do hope we see Stealth-X's. It'd be neat.Anyone know what they're from? I've only recently started reading the books. From what I've been told at my FLGS, the concept behind Stealth X's was that they lacked any sort of systems. and were flown by Jedi via the force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdmiralThrawn 1,090 Posted June 30, 2014 I do hope we see Stealth-X's. It'd be neat. Anyone know what they're from? I've only recently started reading the books. From what I've been told at my FLGS, the concept behind Stealth X's was that they lacked any sort of systems. and were flown by Jedi via the force. There from the 9 book Legacy of the Force series, which takes place I think about 30 years after episode 6. That's where I first heard of them anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdmiralThrawn 1,090 Posted June 30, 2014 As to whether we'll see another cloaking ship... <shrug> Who knows? But I wouldn't count on it. The by-now infamous Stealth-X didn't actually have a cloaking device. The Phantom is pretty unique in that regard, for small ships at least. Two words: Rouge. Shadow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eltnot 690 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) As to whether we'll see another cloaking ship... <shrug> Who knows? But I wouldn't count on it. The by-now infamous Stealth-X didn't actually have a cloaking device. The Phantom is pretty unique in that regard, for small ships at least. Two words: Rouge. Shadow. I think you mean Rogue Shadow. Is the Rouge Shadow the name of a strip club or burlesque show? If not it totally should be! Edited June 30, 2014 by Eltnot 1 berusplants reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R22 1,065 Posted June 30, 2014 The Stealth X was a Jedi-only ship as it carried no communications systems or secondary weapons launcher. Jedi could communicate through a force meld and launched "shadow bombs" -- proton torpedoes propelled by the force so that the exhaust trail wouldn't give the projectile's path away. They were likewise painted with a special material that absorbed radar (sound familiar?) and had a unique fuel formula that dampened the engine glow. Jedi pilots first used them to relay Vong fleet movements back to Jedi fleet officers on the bridge of capital ships. As such, they'd have no place in the XWM flight system. Even the average Jedi pilot amongst non-force users would become fairly high PS. The whole use of Stealth X's was first implemented because the Vong were decimating New Republic forces and Jedi pilots could sneak in. Later they were used in combat but, since they had no comms, they couldn't coordinate with friendly forces and so flew detached from the main force. Stealth X's would be therefore a combination of unique X-wings and Jedi, similar to the generic Red Squadron Pilot. But they'd have to carry no EPT or upgrades that implied communication systems, couldn't use target lock (since they guided the missiles with their minds), and have to be immune to target locks themselves. Perhaps an X-wing with a higher point cost, 3-4 agility, evade instead of TL, a minimum PS of 6, and strictly focus-based pilot abilities. Still, it's a niche ship that would have no Imperial counter. FFG would be better off saying Jedi pilots (real Jedi, not Rebel Luke from the core set), if released in the future, gave an extra agility to whatever ship they appeared in similar to the way the YT-1300 has different stats for Han vs. ORS. 1 Wraithdt reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norsehound 2,737 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) That.... sounds like a good reason why the EU was sent to the scrap yard. The only other ship I can see cloaking in this game would be a title card for the Lambda shuttle. *Emperor's Shuttle [cost 8] Lambda Shuttle only. Title This ship gains a [cloak] action on your action bar. This upgrade can only be equipped on a pilot with a skill of 4 or higher, The shuttle sucks so bad positionally it needs all the help it can get. Being a large base means placement in the middle of those six asteroids is going to be tricky. Testing on how much this can abuse shuttle lists will determine if it's ever made or not.Apart from that, no other ship in the Star Wars universe here should cloak. The Phantom must be unique. Sorry Rebels, enjoy your Advanced Sensor B-Wings in the meantime. Edited June 30, 2014 by Norsehound Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites