dukewolf 163 Posted June 29, 2014 I am having trouble figuring out that Col Vessery's skiill does. When attacking, immediately after you roll attack dice, you may acquire a target lock on the defender if it already has a red target lock token Best I can figure is the following scenario. Shuttle with the title gets a target lock on target "Q". Col Vessary then declares "Q" as a target and roles dice. Now because there is a red TL icon on "Q" Vessary gets a target lock on "Q", and because it happens immediately after he roles the dice I can use them on that attack. is this correct? Or am I reading it wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dvorm 1,058 Posted June 29, 2014 That's correct. Vessery requires a buddy who already has a TL on the target. He does not like to fly with TIE Fighters or Interceptors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartCookie 1,253 Posted June 29, 2014 He does not like to fly with TIE Fighters or Interceptors. ...unless they have a Targeting Computer. 1 Arma Quattro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plainsman 1,002 Posted June 30, 2014 Please clarify: Vessery can USE that target lock on the roll he acquired it!?! If that is correct, that is AWESOME! 2 DraconPyrothayan and Arma Quattro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smuggler 556 Posted June 30, 2014 Indeed he can. He rools his dice, then he immediatley recives his TL and then he procede to the modify attack dice step where he can spend his TL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDCC 599 Posted June 30, 2014 1. Another ship target locks an enemy. 2. Col is in range to attack. 3. Rolls dice. 4. Gets TL from the friendly ship. 5. Can then reroll the dice. Is that it? I've just got a Defender and I've been confused by that card too. Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonheadPrime 88 Posted June 30, 2014 Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use? Friend keeps his, Vessery gets a fresh one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 6,234 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) 1. Another ship target locks an enemy. 2. Col is in range to attack. 3. Rolls dice. 4. Gets TL from the friendly ship. 5. Can then reroll the dice. Is that it? I've just got a Defender and I've been confused by that card too. Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use? Yes, that's the sequence of events, and no, it's not taken from the friendly. The friendly's free to use his TL him/herself. EDIT: Dang it, Ninja'd. Edited June 30, 2014 by DR4CO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDCC 599 Posted June 30, 2014 Thanks guys! So you could do an action (say a focus), knowing the enemy already has a TL from your other ship, then roll your dice, turn up your focus results, and use the TL you just got for free to reroll the other dice that didn't come up good? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smuggler 556 Posted June 30, 2014 Yes, but it's better to use the targetlock before the focus incase some of the rerols allso turns up eyeballs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDCC 599 Posted June 30, 2014 Yes, but it's better to use the targetlock before the focus incase some of the rerols allso turns up eyeballs. Focus>Roll>Free TL to reroll rubbish dice>Focus any eyeballs. Wow. 1 Alekzanter reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixdta39 80 Posted June 30, 2014 Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls? Again assuming target "Q" has a red target lock token on it from another ship and Vessery rolls attack dice, gets a TL and spends the TL to reroll dice. Will he get another target lock? Obviously he cannot reroll dice that have been rerolled however I am just wondering if he would not lose the target lock since "Q" has a red target lock token on it. Thanks in advanced Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buhallin 4,563 Posted June 30, 2014 Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls? No. Using the HLC ruling for precedent, rerolls don't count as rolling dice. Yeah, I know, I know... but them's the rules. 2 ixdta39 and dbmeboy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixdta39 80 Posted June 30, 2014 Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls? No. Using the HLC ruling for precedent, rerolls don't count as rolling dice. Yeah, I know, I know... but them's the rules. Ah yes perfect precedent Thanks Buhallin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clayjar 60 Posted July 1, 2014 Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 6,234 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus. There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks. Edited July 1, 2014 by DR4CO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forgottenlore 9,838 Posted July 1, 2014 Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus. There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks. That's pretty much what he said. "non hit and non eyeballs" pretty much just leaves blanks, unless he meant crits and blanks, but I doubt he meant that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 6,234 Posted July 1, 2014 Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus. There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks. That's pretty much what he said. "non hit and non eyeballs" pretty much just leaves blanks, unless he meant crits and blanks, but I doubt he meant that Indeed. I could of sworn it said just non-hits when I first read it. Oh well. My apologies, Clayjar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2Toes 3 Posted July 3, 2014 When it says "acquire a target lock" is it an action? I assume not. Basically I just want to check it still works when he's stressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixdta39 80 Posted July 3, 2014 It's on page 4 of the FAQ and you can acquire the target lock since it's not perform a target lock action Acquiring A Target lock When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round. Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR4CO 6,234 Posted July 4, 2014 When it says "acquire a target lock" is it an action? I assume not. Basically I just want to check it still works when he's stressed. As I found yesterday, it also means you're free to use the ability even if you get hit by the critical that prevents you using any actions in your action bar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin the Noob7 0 Posted April 28, 2017 With the new tie/d card, if vessary were to fire a secondary canon weapon and spend the target lock he just acquired from that to improve his roll, would he be able to get a second one with his second attack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeathstarII 1,164 Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Kevin the Noob7 said: With the new tie/d card, if vessary were to fire a secondary canon weapon and spend the target lock he just acquired from that to improve his roll, would he be able to get a second one with his second attack? Yes 1 digitalbusker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites