spending the Decloack token decloaking

[Buhallin 4,563]

Thanks for that Sergovan.I guess that means you treat the 2 forward like a Boost, and not a maneuver then, because you don't slide backwards if you overlap.

This is in the decloak rules... If you overlap, you can't decloak, so go nowhere.

Glad we can put this one to bed.

[VanorDM 11,599]

This is in the decloak rules... If you overlap, you can't decloak, so go nowhere.

Yeah I know, but some might try to argue and did in this thread that you could slide backwards if you overlap, because it's called a maneuver. Not saying they're right, but that this statement from Frank makes it clear the 2 forward works more like a boost then a normal maneuver.

[Sergovan 1,440]

We also get the limitation that what you pick sticks if you can land it.

 

 

Thanks for that Sergovan.I guess that means you treat the 2 forward like a Boost, and not a maneuver then, because you don't slide backwards if you overlap.

This is in the decloak rules... If you overlap, you can't decloak, so go nowhere.

Glad we can put this one to bed.

 

We also get an answer regarding the "once per opportunity" confusion as to whether the token was spent or not. It isn't on a failed attempt and you can try it again.

[ziggy2000 169]

What we DIDN'T clearly get (unless I'm missing something) is: when using the 2-bank template to the side (a la Echo), are side-forward and side-backward different "directions"?

 

I think our consensus so far is that they would be different "directions", but Frank's answer didn't specifically say that, so we're still kind of stuck with the Barrel Roll "pick a side" rule.

Edited June 20, 2014 by ziggy2000

[Forgottenlore 9,838]

What we DIDN'T clearly get (unless I'm missing something) is: when using the 2-bank template to the side (a la Echo), are side-forward and side-backward different "directions"?

 

I think our consensus so far is that they would be different "directions", but Frank's answer didn't specifically say that, so we're still kind of stuck with the Barrel Roll "pick a side" rule.

True. But to be fair, the question didn't ask that.

[Sergovan 1,440]

Not answered in this rules question but it is in the pipe from me.

[Forgottenlore 9,838]

Figured someone had to have asked it by now.

[Buhallin 4,563]

It's an interesting commentary that the exact same issue has existed for months with Lt. Lorrir, and nobody really thought to make a big deal about it.

 

Says a lot about either the excitement for the Phantom or the underwhelming nature of Imperial Aces.  Take your pick.

[Sergovan 1,440]

And what do I find in my inbox when I get home?

 

 

Hello Sergovan,

 

In response to your rules question:

Rule Question:

If I am barrel rolling with Lorrir and I choose a bank away on the right side, but it doesn't fit, do I have to do a bank towards on the same side or can I redo the barrel roll action altogether?

 

In competitive play, if a player attempts to do an action and measures whether it is possible, and it is, then they have to commit to that action. When using Lieutenant Lorrir, that player has to declare he is going to barrel roll to “front right,” "right," or “back right.” Usually a player can just try to do the one they want to do and if they can’t fit, they can do another action.

 

Similarly, when using "Echo", the player says which of the 5 directions they are attempting to decloak.

 

Frank Brooks

Associate Creative Content Developer

Fantasy Flight Games

fbrooks@fantasyflightgames.com

[ziggy2000 169]

Like most of us figured.

 

Only I think Echo has 6 possible directions instead of 5.

[VanorDM 11,599]

Thanks for posting that

It's what most of us figured but it's nice to have official confirmation. Plus this way it's sure to show up in the FAQ.

[Sergovan 1,440]

Without this in the FAQ, who knows how bad the interpretations would get on how decloaking would work.

[Buhallin 4,563]

Without this in the FAQ, who knows how bad the interpretations would get on how decloaking would work.

  It's probably worth pointing out that the vast majority of opinion was suggesting exactly what the response from FFG said.

 

You're right, though, without these clarifications we might have had to deal with lone holdouts having crazy ideas... like being able to roll back if you failed to decloak sideways but stuck with it if you decloaked forward.

[Sergovan 1,440]

I was waiting for an actual rules reference. Until I received the response from Frank, no one had put forth a rules citation for how decloaking would work (by the given rules).

 

 

 

  It's probably worth pointing out that the vast majority of opinion was suggesting exactly what the response from FFG said.

 

 

 

 

 

But what a relief as we can now just poll the forum for the "vast majority of opinion" to solve our future rules issues.