GrimmyV 7,421 Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said: I doubt we'll see Vader in a Defender, as awesome as that would be, but perhaps in an Avenger? I very seriously doubt the appearance of the Avenger. After the obligatory x1 we got another ‘advanced’ with The v1 as well as the Aggressor which is obviously a modified x1. And then the Silencer came along and I’m afraid that will silence any hopes for the Avenger, even after being moved to anothe faction. but then GUNBOAT has shown that anything in this world is possible despite all signs. Edited May 21, 2018 by GrimmyV 2 Odanan and Arma Quattro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warlon 1,226 Posted May 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said: MUCH better than the 1.0 version. 5 BDrafty, FTS Gecko, Arma Quattro and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Warlon said: MUCH better than the 1.0 version. Well, it is unless there's ways to force disarm tokens onto enemy ships... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Rick 4,210 Posted May 21, 2018 I wonder if there's an Advanced SLAM in 2.0? If so, then AS + Reload means TWO weapons disabled tokens, and while that didn't matter before it does now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warlon 1,226 Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said: Well, it is unless there's ways to force disarm tokens onto enemy ships... I think the 3 attack dice will be able to go around that, and might encourage people to build Gunboats how they're supposed to be (equipped for all encounters) enemy disarms your torpedo? Smack em with your ion cannons. 1 FTS Gecko reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boba Rick said: I wonder if there's an Advanced SLAM in 2.0? If so, then AS + Reload means TWO weapons disabled tokens, and while that didn't matter before it does now. That would be the only way I can think of off the top of my head to receive more than one Disarm token. I've pulled that combo a couple of times in 1st £dition (with Push the Limit, not Advanced SLAM), but not too often. It's not something that will really happen with the XG-1 title anyway, however the OS-1 title has the same wording: Maybe there is another way to get Disarm tokens. Hopefully not as a weapon effect, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PanchoX1 1,284 Posted May 21, 2018 sure hope they are priced in a way that you can still get 3 in a list with an ace. I'll miss Quickdraw but it will be fun to fly some new ships with a trio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrimmyV 7,421 Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said: Maybe there is another way to get Disarm tokens. Hopefully not as a weapon effect, though. But....Mag pulse warheads! 2 1 Odanan, PanchoX1 and MrMaggles reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, GrimmyV said: But....Mag pulse warheads! Pretty sure that Kylo proved that preventing your opponent from making an attack is an NPE that's up there with pre-nerf Whisper! 1 PT106 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Rick 4,210 Posted May 21, 2018 3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said: That would be the only way I can think of off the top of my head to receive more than one Disarm token. I've pulled that combo a couple of times in 1st £dition (with Push the Limit, not Advanced SLAM), but not too often. It's not something that will really happen with the XG-1 title anyway, however the OS-1 title has the same wording: Maybe there is another way to get Disarm tokens. Hopefully not as a weapon effect, though. Have you flown PTL + AS Vynder? There's nothing quite as fun as following a wookie with SLAM+Reload+TL FIRE MISSILE! Turn after turn. Better do it while you can. 1 Arma Quattro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Boba Rick said: Have you flown PTL + AS Vynder? There's nothing quite as fun as following a wookie with SLAM+Reload+TL FIRE MISSILE! Turn after turn. Better do it while you can. I've not used triple action Vynder, but I've been having a lot of fun with OS-1 PtL Rhoboats. Get to use them in one more major event, at least! 2 punkUser and gadwag reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PanchoX1 1,284 Posted May 21, 2018 I want imperial astromechs and a slot on the gunboat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PanchoX1 1,284 Posted May 21, 2018 where is R2-Q5?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha17 2,402 Posted May 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Hobojebus said: Oh you didn't issue orders to vader... 13 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said: I tried once, out of curiosity. The game won't issue the order and actively tells you off. Huh. I thought I recalled you could issue orders, and they even had a Vader-ish voice saying "Acknowledged" or something along that line. Guess I'm probably thinking of Rebellion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
punkUser 625 Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) PTL Vynder + RAClo just won me another tournament today... he's something like 10-0 in tourney games now over all of which I've only lost 1 ship. Obviously matchups and such are a factor, but I might be forced to upgrade the list to "not entirely terrible" at this point And yeah, you definitely get double disarm tokens on him a fair amount of time from SLAM -> Reload -> PTL lock. Given that I don't care a ton about X-Wing 1.0 at this point, I might just fly it in the last few tourneys/system opens left. It's fun enough, competitive enough it seems, and doesn't break your brain too much. If you're a gunboat fan I recommend giving it a try at least in the last few months. Just remember: PS0 anything > Vynder and you'll be happy Edited May 22, 2018 by punkUser 2 Odanan and FTS Gecko reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarthEnderX 5,232 Posted May 22, 2018 Bleh, are Turrets and Cannons still types of upgrades? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kehl_Aecea 1,244 Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, DarthEnderX said: Bleh, are Turrets and Cannons still types of upgrades? Yes, and they get the Range 1 bonus as well. I'll be honest, I'm excited to run my Gunboats with ion cannons! It kinda bugs me, currently, that I can't run my Gunboats how I remember them from the X-Wing video games 3 DarthEnderX, HolySorcerer and Alpha17 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrMaggles 117 Posted May 22, 2018 18 hours ago, HolySorcerer said: I doubt we'll see Vader in a Defender, as awesome as that would be, but perhaps in an Avenger? But who would fill the seat in Delta 6? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, punkUser said: PTL Vynder + RAClo just won me another tournament today... he's something like 10-0 in tourney games now over all of which I've only lost 1 ship. Obviously matchups and such are a factor, but I might be forced to upgrade the list to "not entirely terrible" at this point And yeah, you definitely get double disarm tokens on him a fair amount of time from SLAM -> Reload -> PTL lock. I might have to give Vynder a try before The Second Editioning then, although I don't have a Decimator (or Kylo) so RAC is out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 22, 2018 OK, in the spirit of @punkUser's suggestion above, I've decided to give the following list a spin: Vader - TIE/x1, Advanced Targeting Computer -30 pointsVessery - TIE/x7, A Score to Settle - 33 pointsVynder - OS-1 Arsenal Loadout, Push the Limit, Harpoon Missiles - 35 points 2 points left. Either Juke/Intensity on Vader and Guidance Chips on Vynder, or Advanced SLAM on Vynder. I really wanted to try and fit a Harpoon on Vader as well, but that's clearly not happening without wholesale changes. Dammit, Triple V. Why do I always have to try and give my lists a theme? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thespaceinvader 17,433 Posted May 22, 2018 The obvious answer is buy a 22 point Nuboat and put the points into Vader, he's a way more useful repository for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said: The obvious answer is buy a 22 point Nuboat and put the points into Vader, he's a way more useful repository for them. That does however defeat the point of "trying out Vynder", as was suggested above! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thespaceinvader 17,433 Posted May 22, 2018 lol. It's Vynder, he's just in disguise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FTS Gecko 22,666 Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said: lol. It's Vynder, he's just in disguise. "Do you know the penalty for impersonating an officer in the Imperial Navy pilot? Do you?" 2 Infinite_Maelstrom and Hobojebus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
punkUser 625 Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said: OK, in the spirit of @punkUser's suggestion above, I've decided to give the following list a spin: Vader - TIE/x1, Advanced Targeting Computer -30 pointsVessery - TIE/x7, A Score to Settle - 33 pointsVynder - OS-1 Arsenal Loadout, Push the Limit, Harpoon Missiles - 35 points 2 points left. Either Juke/Intensity on Vader and Guidance Chips on Vynder, or Advanced SLAM on Vynder. I really wanted to try and fit a Harpoon on Vader as well, but that's clearly not happening without wholesale changes. Dammit, Triple V. Why do I always have to try and give my lists a theme? To do Vynder semi-properly you need adv SLAM. The entire gimmick is being able to SLAM -> lock -> focus or SLAM -> lock -> reload as need be And you definitely want to be SLAMming nearly every turn, so it effectively just becomes a "free" action with advanced SLAM. If you want the properly hilarious Vynder, you run with both Harpoons and APTs That makes folks think twice about boosting into range 1 and doubles the value of the reload action. But yeah, definitely into silly territory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites