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1 hour ago, defkhan1 said:

Now that the Gunboat is out, what are we looking forward to hyping? Personally I want the TIE Avenger. Don't care if we just got the Silencer. I want the AVENGER.

I'd also want the Avenger... but with the TIE Silencer looking so very similar to the TIE Avenger, I doubt now if we'll ever see it. Both are the result of meshing together Darth Vader's TIE Advanced with a TIE Interceptor.

Personally, the next Flight sim model I'd want to see might be either the R-41 Starchaser or the T-Wing. The problem with that is both of them are more likely to end up as scum fighters than rebel ones... and I don't want to start collecting Scum.

Maybe the Escort Shuttle, but I don't think that one has big enough of a following.

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I think the fact that the Silencer is so big leaves room for the Avenger someday.

The wings are a bit different.  The cockpit in the non-game model version is completely different, and according to Wookieepedia, the Silencer is almost twice the length of the Avenger.

It could still happen.

31 minutes ago, Norsehound said:

Personally, the next Flight sim model I'd want to see might be either the R-41 Starchaser or the T-Wing. The problem with that is both of them are more likely to end up as scum fighters than rebel ones... and I don't want to start collecting Scum.

Starchaser would totally be Scum.

But the T-Wing would probably be Rebel.  It was a Rebel ship in SWG, and it has the Letter-Wing theme naming.  At worst, it'll end up being dual faction like the Y-Wing and Headhunters.

Edited by DarthEnderX

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12 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

Likely the First Order has other Silencers, and they're probably painted normal FO colors.  But they probably aren't in the movie so that's not what our default model is going to be.

You mean like the originally shown version?

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Clearly the Disney execs took one look and thought "nope, not emo enough".  I actually prefer the version with white solar panels, but the all black version will make for an easier repaint as a TIE Avenger:

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It's really about as close to an Avenger as we could hope for.

Edited by FTS Gecko

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Just got up to the first Avenger missions on my recent TIE Fighter re-playthrough.  Man, I forgot how delicate those things are!  Great speed, pretty good firepower, but really weak shields, even from 200%!  (A single missile was able to completely drain my rear shields and put the hull damage at red.)  On the other hand, the shields can also charge pretty quickly, especially when dumping energy from lasers.

Since they're adding in a Reload action, I wonder if they could add in a Shield Recharge action.  Maybe the Avenger would only have a shield value of 1, but get an action like, "If this ship has less than its maximum shield tokens, give it one shield token.  You may not attack with your primary weapon this round."

(Sorry if it's worded a bit clumsily.  I've just started the game, and am not terribly familiar with how it words things yet.)

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1 minute ago, JJ48 said:

Just got up to the first Avenger missions on my recent TIE Fighter re-playthrough.  Man, I forgot how delicate those things are!  Great speed, pretty good firepower, but really weak shields, even from 200%!  (A single missile was able to completely drain my rear shields and put the hull damage at red.)  On the other hand, the shields can also charge pretty quickly, especially when dumping energy from lasers.

Since they're adding in a Reload action, I wonder if they could add in a Shield Recharge action.  Maybe the Avenger would only have a shield value of 1, but get an action like, "If this ship has less than its maximum shield tokens, give it one shield token.  You may not attack with your primary weapon this round."

(Sorry if it's worded a bit clumsily.  I've just started the game, and am not terribly familiar with how it words things yet.)

My custom TIE Avenger expansion has a shield recharge mechanic in the TIE/ad title (but I would change that today for a weapons disabled token = recharge 1 shield).

 

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13 hours ago, defkhan1 said:

Now that the Gunboat is out, what are we looking forward to hyping? Personally I want the TIE Avenger. Don't care if we just got the Silencer. I want the AVENGER.

Wait, it's out?  GUNBOAT IS HERE!!!????

 

 

 

 

oh, you mean it was announced and previewed with the rest of wave 12.  Not that it was in stores yet.

 

you suck.  

 

 

(j/k)

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No offense to the TIE Avenger, but I think it may well be the ugliest TIE ever spawned*... in X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter. The graphics of that game, while a little older, seem fine on most ships, and the more angular ships (like the rebel ships and, of course, the Gunboat) look great, but to me, there's something very wrong about that huge round cockpit jutting out of the front of what looks like a TIE/Advanced but with smaller wings and with the middle of the wings missing. 

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Note, these are the prettier pictures from the cutscenes. It's just an odd ship...

*I'm setting the bar pretty high here. TIE craft in general are fantastic.

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13 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

No offense to the TIE Avenger, but I think it may well be the ugliest TIE ever spawned*... in X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter. The graphics of that game, while a little older, seem fine on most ships, and the more angular ships (like the rebel ships and, of course, the Gunboat) look great, but to me, there's something very wrong about that huge round cockpit jutting out of the front of what looks like a TIE/Advanced but with smaller wings and with the middle of the wings missing. 

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Note, these are the prettier pictures from the cutscenes. It's just an odd ship...

*I'm setting the bar pretty high here. TIE craft in general are fantastic.

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The Defender in its awkward phase.  I kinda like the original look but I guess the modern look is more in tune with the rest of the TIEs.

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48 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Just got up to the first Avenger missions on my recent TIE Fighter re-playthrough.  Man, I forgot how delicate those things are!  Great speed, pretty good firepower, but really weak shields, even from 200%!  (A single missile was able to completely drain my rear shields and put the hull damage at red.)  On the other hand, the shields can also charge pretty quickly, especially when dumping energy from lasers.

Since they're adding in a Reload action, I wonder if they could add in a Shield Recharge action.  Maybe the Avenger would only have a shield value of 1, but get an action like, "If this ship has less than its maximum shield tokens, give it one shield token.  You may not attack with your primary weapon this round."

(Sorry if it's worded a bit clumsily.  I've just started the game, and am not terribly familiar with how it words things yet.)

So the game files reveal it has about the same hull and the same shields as an A-wing. So a 3-3(4?)-2-2 ship with a missile, sensor and a title that gives it Regen would be a cool representation of the TIE Avenger, and be very unique.

Edited by All Shields Forward

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22 minutes ago, All Shields Forward said:

So the game files reveal it has about the same hull and the same shields as an A-wing. So a 3-3(4?)-2-2 ship with a missile, sensor and a title that gives it Regen would be a cool representation of the TIE Avenger, and be very unique.

Basically an advanced tie advanced prototype XD

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Just now, JJ48 said:

Just got up to the first Avenger missions on my recent TIE Fighter re-playthrough.  Man, I forgot how delicate those things are!  Great speed, pretty good firepower, but really weak shields, even from 200%!  (A single missile was able to completely drain my rear shields and put the hull damage at red.)  On the other hand, the shields can also charge pretty quickly, especially when dumping energy from lasers.

Since they're adding in a Reload action, I wonder if they could add in a Shield Recharge action.  Maybe the Avenger would only have a shield value of 1, but get an action like, "If this ship has less than its maximum shield tokens, give it one shield token.  You may not attack with your primary weapon this round."

(Sorry if it's worded a bit clumsily.  I've just started the game, and am not terribly familiar with how it words things yet.)

I'd love to see the shield recharge from TIE fighter in this game. I would be fine to make it an Avenger-only mechanic too. Finally give Imperials some form of regen but keep it contained to one ship. It should be something like "At the start of the combat phase, you may receive one Weapons Disabled token to recover one shield (up to your shield value)". It could have maybe a 3/3/4/1 statline to keep the regen from being abusive.

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52 minutes ago, defkhan1 said:

I'd love to see the shield recharge from TIE fighter in this game. I would be fine to make it an Avenger-only mechanic too. Finally give Imperials some form of regen but keep it contained to one ship. It should be something like "At the start of the combat phase, you may receive one Weapons Disabled token to recover one shield (up to your shield value)". It could have maybe a 3/3/4/1 statline to keep the regen from being abusive.

4 seems a bit high for the hull value.  They weren't that tanky, were they?

1 hour ago, Rft said:

There's also all the wierd experimental TIEs from X-wing alliance....

I was thinking it'd be interesting to have some experimental TIEs that could be a bit more powerful than normal for their cost, but require a Controller who would have to fill a crew slot on a Large or Epic ship.  If there are ever no friendly Controllers in play, the experimental TIEs are destroyed.

That way, you could get some pretty potent ships for relatively cheap, but at the same time paint a huge target for your enemy to go after.

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6 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

I actually prefer the version with white solar panels

I suppose you could always hope for an Aces repaint later.  But that would make the Silencer the first large package ship to get a repaint.

2 hours ago, All Shields Forward said:

So the game files reveal it has about the same hull and the same shields as an A-wing. So a 3-3(4?)-2-2 ship with a missile, sensor and a title that gives it Regen would be a cool representation of the TIE Avenger, and be very unique.

Take an Interceptor.  Give it shields, Target Lock action, Missile and System upgrades.

Add some T-Rolls to the dial.

Package it with this card:
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Done and done.

Edited by DarthEnderX

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I would love to see the TIE Avenger, but I am not counting on it, since it looks so similar to everything out already (although that didn't stop them from creating Sabine's TIE Fighter for the Rebel Alliance faction, did it.). Am I the only one hoping for a TIE Droid fighter from the original Rogue Squadron game? Since we have the E-Wing, it would be fitting to put it up against some of these.

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Ugly as heck, but you could do some interesting things with droid fighters. I envision a way to "pre-program" certain actions or benefits at the start of the game--the way Armada uses command dials, these pre-programmed dials would give the TIE/Droid a benefit when they're flipped up (such as converting a red maneuver to a white maneuver, bestowing a free focus token, etc.). But you plan them out three turns in advance to when you see them (like you would on a Star Destroyer in Armada). And instead of having EPTs, you could have a new upgrade slot for computer programs & upgrades, to boost their defense or offense. That would balance out the fact that they have only 2 attack dice and lame defenses. (These things were easier to shoot down than TIE Fighters)

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2 hours ago, Rft said:

There's also all the wierd experimental TIEs from X-wing alliance....

Yeah!

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2 hours ago, defkhan1 said:

I'd love to see the shield recharge from TIE fighter in this game. I would be fine to make it an Avenger-only mechanic too.

That wouldn't be fine at all!

That's a core mechanic to the universe.  ****, Miranda's special ability should be an Action on the bar of every ship with Shields.

 

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I think we should leave the hyping of other ships to threads dedicated to them and keep this thread focused on the GUNBOAT.  The most glorious of Imperial designs.

Also once the GUNBOAT comes out, everyone should post their victories in this thread and we should double our efforts to get it to 1,000 pages.

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