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CR90 Imperial version or proxy miniature

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There's a lot of speculation on the forums about what the Imperial Huge ships could be or should be, but even before I started reading about all that I had in mind that the CR90 would be released with both Rebel Pilots and Imperial Pilots. It would have been a lot simpler to do and though I'm disappointed that we didn't get that option I am still hopeful for some good Imperial Huge ships.
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Having said that I don't think you need to be a sculptor or modeler to have an Imperial Huge ship if you've acquired a CR90 miniature. What I'm planning to do is make an Imperial version of the Rebel CR90 fore and aft cards, but not carbon copies where the difference is only the grey color. 
 
So I'm looking for ideas that might make it interesting to use an Imperial CR90 or the Rebel CR90 miniature as a proxy for a DP20 for example. That way you can battle a corvette size ship using a rebel squad, in a two fraction battle. I'm leaning towards the DP20 and will probably add missile slots, and the overall cost may change. Any ideas?

Looking at the potential crew, for some inspiration.
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I'm still sorting through the ship names list. 

 

CR90 names      Faction     About 1,100 results for CR90 from Wookieepedia

• 1138                       imp          a CR90 serving in the Imperial Navy as part of Task Force Vengeance. 

• 327-C                     imp          a corvette operated by the Galactic Empire.

• 327-B                     imp          an Imperial Assassin-class corvette 

• 327-A                     imp         was a CR90 corvette belonging to the Galactic Empire

• AD88                      imp          was a CR90 corvette belonging to the Galactic Empire.  

• Assassin 1             imp          Assassin 1 was an Imperial CR90 corvette. 

• Astin                       imp         The Imperial CR90 corvette Astin destroyed a Rebel probe near Klaymor 4-2.  

• Badlands                imp       Imperial CR90, accompanied the Corrupter after the Battle of Hoth

• BB 45                     imp      a CR90 corvette used by the Galactic Empire during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Borealis                  imp       a CR90, part of the fleet of Lumiya shortly after the Battle of Endor.

• Cutlass                   imp       Cutlass was an Imperial CR90 corvette.  

• Empire Forever      imp      an Imperial CR90 corvette that was used by Coh Veshiv,  

• Falcon                    imp    CR90 in the Imperial Navy during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Ghost                     imp   Ghost was a CR90 corvette belonging to the Galactic Empire.  

• Godar                     imp  Godar was a CR90 corvette in the Imperial Navy during the GCW  

• Halifax                    imp Imperial CR90 owned by Overlord Ghorin, supplied Emperor Palpatine with food.

• Imperator               imp The Imperator was a CR90 corvette used by the Galactic Empire 

• Judicator                imp The Judicator was a CR90 corvette of the Galactic Empire. 

• Lialic II                    imp The Lialic II was a CR90 corvette in service to the Galactic Empire. 

• Malice                    imp Malice was an Imperial CR90 corvette

• Olrac Etnom          imp Olrac Etnom was an Imperial CR90 corvette.  

• Oramac                 imp  a CR90 corvette in service to the Galactic Empire.  

• Perfect                   imp  a CR90 corvette that served with the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• Ranger                  imp   a CR90 corvette that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW 

• Renegade             imp  Moff Kentor Sarne's heavily modifed CR90, later renamed the FarStar.

• SB 35                    imp  a CR90 corvette used by the Galactic Empire during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Scarlet Thranta     imp  The Scarlet Thranta was a CR90 corvette of the Judicial Starfleet.  

• Shredder               imp   Shredder was an Imperial CR90 corvette.  

• Stallion                  imp   Stallion was an Imperial CR90 corvette during the GCW 

• Star Ravager        imp   an Imperial CR90  that patrolled the Kessel system during the GCW

• Talon                    imp  a CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Vorknkx                 imp  a CR90 in the service of the Galactic Empire during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Bixby                     imp  CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the Galactic Civil War.

• Ession Strike         imp   a modified CR90, used at one point by Pirates, Imperials, and Rebels 

• Firestorm               imp an imperial CR90, part of the fleet of Lumiya shortly after the Battle of Endor. 

• Scorpion                imp a CR90 corvette in service with the Imperial Navy. 

 

• Hyko                       imp-g  a group of two CR90 used by the Galactic Empire during the GCW

• 524                         imp-g   a group of two CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• 758                         imp-g    a group of three CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• Blazen                     imp-g    a group of Imperial CR90 who arrived too late to save an Imperial outpost.  

• Dar Es                    imp-g    a group of three CR90 in the Imperial Navy during the GCW  

• Fang                        imp-g  a group of four CR90 that served with the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• Raider                     imp-g  a group of Imperial CR90 sent to assist the Imperial EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Blue Fox  

• Tiger                          imp-g   a group of two CR90  belonging to the Galactic Empire. 

• Eagle                         imp-g   a group of two CR90 in service to the Galactic Empire.  

• 223                            imp-g   a group of Imperial CR90 that spread mines around an Imperial listening post above Saheelindeel.

• 327                            imp-g  a group of two CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• 427                             imp-g   a group of three CR90 that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW 

• Banshee                    imp-g  a pair of CR90 belonging to the Galactic Empire. 

• Geedon                       imp-g  a convoy of seven CR90 containing food for the Galactic Empire.  

• Gotal                          imp-g  a group of two CR90 corvettes assigned to Imperial Task Force Vengeance. 

• Horse                         imp-g  an Imperial CR90 group deployed during the Galactic Civil War.

• Purple Claw               imp-g    a group of two CR90 under the service of the Galactic Empire.  

• Red Tooth                  imp-g   group of two CR90 under the service of the Galactic Empire.  

• Shurik                        imp-g   a group of Imperial CR90 corvettes. 

• Spider                        imp-g  a pair of CR90 corvettes belonging to the Galactic Empire. 

• Thrasher                   imp-g  group of two CR90 that attacked a Habassan freighter convoy above Retep V.  

• TIE Fire                      imp-g  a group of Imperial Corvettes that were destroyed in Operation Blunt Stick.

• Trigger                       imp-g  a group of CR90 corvettes used by the Galactic Empire.  

• Z-Caplure Group        imp-g  a group of three Imperial CR90 corvettes used by Grand Admiral Zaarin.  

• Pit Bull                        imp-g  a pair of CR90 corvettes belonging to the Galactic Empire.

 

 

• Backstab                    Pirate  also known as the Captain's Ladder, was a CR90 corvette that saw service with a group of pirates and mercenaries.  

• Clavier                         Pirate   a CR90 corvette belonging to the Pakuuni Pirates.  

• Constrictor                   Pirate  a CR90 corvette in the service of Warlord Zsinj.  

• Galaxy Chance            Pirate  a CR90 corvette, was a mobile smuggling base and casino,  

• Grapler                        Pirate  a CR90 corvette belonging to the Pakuuni Pirates.  

• Kern's Pride                 Pirate  a modified CR90 corvette, was the flagship of the smuggler Samuel Tomas Gillespee 

• Leach                          Pirate  a CR90 corvette belonging to the Pakuuni Pirates.  

• Renthal's Fist              Pirate  a CR90 corvette that served as the flagship of the pirate Drea Renthal. 

• Smokeswimmer           Pirate  a Corellian corvette that was used by the Black Hammer pirates,

• Tarnta's Fang             Pirate  a modified CR90 corvette which was owned by Tarnta Bane, and operated by the Consolidations Unlimited slaving group.  

• Zahtjav                        Pirate Named after a legendary Rodian monster by the pirate Venslas Beeli, the Zahtjav was a CR90  

 

 

 

• Agitator                     reb  a CR90 of the Alliance to Restore the Republic.  

• Bail Organa              reb  a CR90 corvette. used to transport refugees from the destroyed planet of Alderaan.  

• Beecon                     reb  a CR90 in the service of the Rebel Alliance during the GCW 

• Burke                        reb  a CR90 corvette serving in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Chandrila                  reb a Corellian Corvette in service to the New Republic during the GCW. It was part of a task force commanded by Admiral Ackbar

• Chip                         reb  a CR90 corvette under the service of the Rebel Alliance.  

• Coen                        reb  a CR90 corvette belonging to the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Coffey                      reb   a CR90 corvette used to escort the corvette Glazer as it made a technology delivery to the Rebel Alliance  

• Dantooine                 reb  a CR90 corvette in service to the New Republic during the GCW

• Deep                         reb  a CR90 corvette belonging to the Rebel Alliance.  

• Dodonna's Pride       reb   a CR90 corvette named for the Rebel Alliance hero General Jan Dodonna.

• Dragon                      reb  a CR90 corvette in the service of the Rebel Alliance.  

• Droo                          reb   a CR90 corvette in service to the Rebel Alliance.  

• Emancipator              reb   used by  the Rebel Alliance during the early months of the GCW

• Eridain                       reb  a CR90 that fought in the Battle of Endor. It worked with Rogue Squadron  

• Farrelly                      reb  a CR90 corvette belonging to the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Filve                           reb  a CR90 corvette under the service of the Rebel Alliance.  

• Frazier                       reb  a CR90 corvette in the Rebel Alliance Fleet during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Freedom of Sullust    reb  a CR90 corvette of the New Republic Defense Fleet.  

• Gaaltura V                 reb  a CR90 corvette that was used by the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Gallant                       reb a CR90 that was assigned to Bythen Forral for personal use as long as he did periodical (rebel) recruiting trips.

• Glazer                         reb a CR90 corvette that the Nharwaak used to ferry weapons technology to the Rebel Alliance Nebulon-B frigate Xerxes

• Habatok 2                    reb  a CR90 sent by the Habassa to rescue the station crew of a B-wing assembly area.  

• Hart                             reb  a CR90 corvette that served with the Rebel Alliance Fleet during the GCW

• Howlrunner                  reb  a CR90 corvette in the service of the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Intrepid                        reb  a CR90 corvette that saw service with the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Jaina's Light                reb  a CR90 piloted by Han Solo and Chewbacca circa 5 BBY.  

• Janson                        reb  a CR90 that the Nharwaak used to escort the corvette Glazer as it made a technology delivery to the Rebel Alliance Nebulon-B frigate Xerxes.

• Jeffrey                          reb   a CR90 corvette in the Rebel Alliance during the GCW.  

• Korolev                        reb  a medical CR90 corvette in the Rebel Fleet.  

• Lance                          reb  a CR90 corvette in the service of the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Last Hope                    reb  a CR90 corvette which served with the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Lauhu                         reb   a CR90 corvette which served with the Alliance to Restore the Republic during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Libra                            reb  a Rebel CR90 corvette active during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Mahan                         reb  a CR90 corvette in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Manx                            reb  a CR90 corvette that served with the Alliance to Restore the Republic's fleet

• Mar Duun                     reb  a CR90 corvette used by the Rebel alliance.  

• Masanya                       reb  a CR90 that was used by the fleet of the Rebel Alliance…

• Master (corvette)          reb  a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Nimble                          reb  a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Old Republic                reb  a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance fleet that fought in the Battle of Endor.  

• Pride of Selonia            reb  a CR90 of the New Republic Defense Fleet.  

• Pushti                           reb  a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Ram's Head                  reb  a Rebel Alliance CR90 corvette,  

• Rancor's Tooth             reb  a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Raze                             reb   a CR90 in the Alliance Fleet.  

• Razor                            reb   a CR90 in the Alliance Fleet.  

• Saki                               reb   a CR90 in the Alliance Fleet. S 

• Sonnel                          reb   a CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet. I 

• Spiral                            reb  a  CR90 that operated as a privateer vessel for the Rebel Alliance  

• Stellar Damsel               reb  a CR90 in the Alliance Fleet.  

• Sullust                           reb  a CR90 in service to the New Republic during the GCW

• Sundered Heart            reb   a heavily modified CR90 and, temporarily, the personal ship of Captain Raymus Antilles

• Swift                            reb  a CR90 that served within the Rebel Alliance Fleet  

• Talon                          reb  a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance.  

• Tantive I                      reb  a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Tantive II                     reb  a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Tantive III                     reb  a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Tantive IV                    reb  a CR90 in the service of the Royal House of Alderaan.   

• Tantive V                     reb  a CR90 in the service of the Alliance to Restore the Republic during the GCW

• Thunder                      reb an Airam CR90 active during the Galactic Civil War.  

• Ubote 1                       reb  a CR90 in the service of the Alliance to Restore the Republic.  

• Ubote 2                       reb  a CR90 in the service of the Alliance to Restore the Republic.  

• Ubote 3                       reb  a CR90 in the service of the Alliance to Restore the Republic.  

• Ullet                            reb  a CR90 of the Rebel Alliance.  

• Veed                          reb  a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance which served in the Airam sector.  

• Viper                          reb  a CR90 in the service of the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Vop Hui                      reb a CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance.  

• Magua                       reb  a CR90 operated by Airam clan leader Ilay in 3 ABY.  

• Ryloth                        reb  a CR90 in service to the New Republic during the GCW, commanded by Admiral Ackbar during the Battle of Ciutric.

• Shantipole                 reb a corvette used by the Alliance to Restore the Republic during the GCW

• Ignat                          reb a CR90 corvette used by the Airam. 

• NovaFlare                  reb a Rebel Alliance corvette present during the Battle of Endor.

• Bilbringi                      reb  a CR90 corvette used by the Habassa, who aided the Rebels in secret.  

• Mantooine                  reb a CR90 corvette serving the New Republic Defense…

• Mrlsst                         reb  a CR90 corvette in service to the New Republic during the GCW

• Storm                         reb  a CR90 corvette used by the Alliance to Restore the Republic 

 

 

• 457 7                       reb-g  a group of three CR90 corvettes in the Rebel Alliance.  

• Arrow                       reb-g a group of three CR90 in the Alliance Fleet.

• Athega                     reb-g  a group of eleven CR90 which served with the Rebel Alliance Fleet.  

• Birkby                      reb-g   a force of Rebel CR90 corvettes.  

• Hammer                   reb-g a group of three CR90 in the Rebel Alliance Fleet. 

• Keeper                     reb-g a pair of CR90 belonging to the Rebel Alliance. 

• Python                     reb-g a pair of CR90 that were part of a Rebel convoy that contained B-wing starfighters.

• Striker                      reb-g a group of three CR90 corvettes in the Rebel Alliance Fleet.

• 457                           reb-g  a group of three CR90 that belonged to the Rebel Alliance during the GCW 

• Crescent                  reb-g  a group of five Rebel Alliance-operated CR90 corvettes

• DS                            reb-g a group of two CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance during the GCW 

• Ethar                        reb-g   two CR90 used by the Alliance to Restore the Republic during the GCW  

• Ithor                          reb-g  a group of three CR90 corvettes in the Rebel Alliance.  

• Orca                         reb-g  a pair of CR90 belonging to the Rebel Alliance. 

• Quluiy                       reb-g  a group of 3 CR90 corvettes used by the Rebel Alliance.  

• Sundog                     reb-g  a pair of CR90 that served with the Alliance to Restore the Republic's fleet.  

• Triumph                    reb-g Triumph was a group of two CR90 corvettes belonging to the Rebel Alliance

• T-Force                     reb-g   the designation given to a group of four Alderaanian CR90 corvettes during the GCW

• Ubote group              reb-g a group of three Rebel-operated CR90 corvettes during the GCW

• Uhu                            reb-g  a pair of CR90 used by the Rebel Alliance.  

• Viper                          reb-g a group of three CR90  that served in the Imperial Navy during the GCW

• Wasp                          reb-g a pair of CR90 that served with the Rebel Alliance during the GCW

• Wolf                            reb-g  a pair of CR90 belonging to the Rebel Alliance.  

• Yavin Express            reb-g   a group of CR90. The Rebel Alliance protected them in order to gain their support. 

• Yogi                          reb-g   the designation given to a group of Rebel CR90 corvettes. 

 

 

• Neelian                            a CR90 in the Republic Navy during the Clone Wars.  

• Agara                              a CR90 Transporting repair kits along with a group of other civilian vessels,  

• Amber Star                      a CR90 Usage Owner(s) Zan Dane Commander(s) Zan Dane…

• Aurora                             a CR90 corvette that was used by the Cularin Militia during the Clone Wars.  

• Beauty                             a CR90 corvette of Black Sword Command and later the Yevethan fleet.  

• Blackmist                         Roleplaying Game BETA (First mentioned) Blackmist Production information

• Blast Radius                     Blast Radius was a CR90 corvette belonging to the Viraxo.  

• Bureaucrat's Triumph      military CR90 corvette, central component of Algara II's planetary defense force

• Charger 1                        Charger 1 was a CR90 corvette used by the Nharwaak. 

• Charger 2                        Charger 2 was a CR90 corvette used by the Nharwaak.  

• Charger Group               Two Nharwaak CR90 corvettes from group Charger took part in the Conflict at Mylok IV during the GCW

• Cularin 1                         a CR90 used during the Clone Wars, captured by the Cularin Militia

• Fa-Loh-Sui                      the flagship of the Abin-Ral-Xufush.  

• FarStar                           a CR90 originally known as the Freedom's Messenger and served as a diplomatic ship for the Galactic Republic…

• Gotal 2                          assigned to Imperial Task Force Vengeance. Equipped with additional space survey sensors.

• Indefatigable                a CR90 that was used by the Thaereian military during the Clone Wars.  

• Karinne                          a CR90 of the Twi'leki government.  

• Notz                               Habeen researchers used CR90 corvette Notz at the Mylok IV Conflict

• Petor                              a CR90 used by the  Nharwaak forces used to protect their base of operations 

• Phalanx                            Habeen researchers used Phalanx at the Mylok IV Conflict 

• Sable III                            a modified Corellian CR90 corvette used by the flamboyant pirate Drek Drednar…

• Safonne's Sword              the flagship of the pirate Safonne Pendon's modest, but effective fleet.  

• Scorpion IV                       a CR9  that was part of the fleet of Lumiya shortly after the Battle of Endor.  

• Shotgun                            a CR90 used by Nharwaak forces to protect their base of operations 

• Silaban                              a CR90 and part of the Corellian Defense Force.

• Sovereign                         a New Republic CR90 involved in a skirmish on Alvorine sometime after the Battle of Endor.

• Telira                                a CR90 owned/captained by Osman Shrier, who operated it as a passenger liner.  

• Thaere Runner                 a CR90 corvette that served in the Thaereian military during the Clone Wars.  

• Vigilant                             a CR90 corvette that was used by the Thaereian military during the Clone Wars.  

• Windswept                       a CR90 corvette that was used as a freighter by the Joruba Consortium.  

• Wolf-Pack                        a CR90 corvette that was part of the fleet of Lumiya shortly after the Battle of Endor.  

• Z-Caplure 1                       Z-Caplure 1 was an CR90 corvette used by the Zaarin splinter government. 

• Z-Caplure 2                       Z-Caplure 2 was an CR90 corvette used by the Zaarin splinter government.  

• Z-Caplure 3                       Z-Caplure 3 was an CR90 corvette used by the Zaarin splinter government. 

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The DP20 frigate or Corellian Gunship

 

♦ Double turbolaser cannons (8)

♦ Quad laser cannons (6)

♦ Concussion missile launchers (4)

  - 30 concussion missiles each, standard load 

 

2nd Opinion:

8 • Double Turbolaser Cannons (2 Forward, 3 Left, 3 Right)

Crew: 2 Gunners per cannon

Fire Control: 3D

Space Range: 3-15/35/75 Space Units

Atmospheric Range: 300 metres-1.5 km/3.5 km/7.5 km

Damage: 4D+2

 

4 • Concussion Missile Tubes (2 Forward, 2 Aft)

Crew: 3 Gunners per tube

Fire Control: 3D

Space Range: 2-12/30/60 Space Units

Atmospheric Range: 200 metres-1.2 km/3 km/6 km

Damage: 9D

 

6 • Quad Laser Cannons (3 Left, 3 Right) [CEC AG-2G Quad Laser Batteries?]

Crew: 3 Gunners per cannon

Scale: Starfighter

Fire Control: 3D

Space Range: 1-5/10/17 Space Units

Atmospheric Range: 100 metres-500 metres/1 km/1.7 km

Damage: 5D

 


8 • Double Turbolsers

Fire Arc: 2 Forward, 3 Left, 3 Right, 

Damage: 4D+2, 

Crew: 2 Gunners per cannon, 

Space Range: 75, 

Atmospheric Range: 7.5 km 

4 • Concussion Missile Tubes

Fire Arc: 2 Forward, 2 Aft, 

Damage: 9D, 

Crew: 2 Gunners per tube, 

Space Range: 60, 

Atmospheric Range: 6 km

6 • Quad Laser Cannons

Fire Arc: 3 Left, 3 Right, 

Damage: 5D, 

Scale: Starfighter, 

Crew: 3 Gunners per cannon, 

Space Range: 17, 

Atmospheric Range: 1.7 km
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Some simple ratios and presto

6:21 ratio 3.5 hardpoints per missiles.

hardpoints missiles total

1.75            0.5        2.25

3.5              1           4.5

5.25            1.5        6.75

7                 2           9 

8.75            2.5      11.25

10.5            3         13.5

12.25          3.5      15.75

14               4         18

So seven hardpoints, the primary, and three missile slots sounds about right. 

The hull and shields not that hard to figure out. 7/7 hull, maybe 5/4 sheilds

Definitely not going to be 90 points. 

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I already have one:

 

Not everyone has one, and yet anyone who owns a CR90 could use it as an

Imperial proxy with another set of pilot cards.  So what do your card's look like? 

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I started a topic here:

 

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/104964-dp20-gunship-stats/#entry1064486

 

I think it would be great to design a "fan approved" version of the DP20.  I do not have the tools to make up the cool looking cards.  I still have not got my corvette model and played with how it works so at the moment the stats for the DP20 are a WIP.

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If we do see a large ship, if you put cannons on it like with the cr....and put vader....can you imagine the destructive power. I'll take 8 shots kill my own ship and destroy 4 of yours

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I started a topic here:

 

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/104964-dp20-gunship-stats/#entry1064486

 

I think it would be great to design a "fan approved" version of the DP20.  I do not have the tools to make up the cool looking cards.  I still have not got my corvette model and played with how it works so at the moment the stats for the DP20 are a WIP.

I like that you did all this research after the cards were spoiled,

before the miniature was released, and have your own miniature. 

You can see where I've gotten my stats and the ratios, and though I appreciate your work

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on a couple of things.

 

Going by the fact that the DP20 is supposed to have almost three times the armament of the CR90, 6 vs 18

And the DP20 is supposed to have almost one and a half times the amount of crew as the CR90, 30 vs 45

And as the DP20 is supposed to have slightly less hull than the CR90, 192 vs 176  (7+7 vs 8+8), 120m vs 150m

And as the DP20 is supposed to have slightly more shield unit power than the CR90, 400 vs 416 (8 vs 9),

then the cards stats I would make would look slightly different than yours. 

Ideally I would want to have 4 team slots to follow the 2/3 ratio, but since there are currently only three

types that would be a waste, so I think three crew would be the way to go to make up for that. 

Four crew slots may be excessive, and maybe leaving two cargo to make up for it instead.

This will have to serve as a first draft as I'm sure I haven't thought of everything, 

and it just occurred to me that I'll have to make cripple sides stats as well:

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It's very tempting to say, well the Tantive IV title gives the CR90 four team slots even though there are currently only three team types, since there are likely to be some new teams with new ships, but if one of those new releases is a DP20 it will supersede this project and it will be moot, so I'm going to stick with the three crew + three teams idea. 14367755625_4fedc31de3_b.jpg

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That looks like the missile corvette from Empire at War. If the Imperial's get an equivalent I guess it would be the Tartan patrol cruiser.

 

But to be honest I am hoping for a Star destroyer (followed by a Nebulon B Frigate for the Rebels)

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If we do see a large ship, if you put cannons on it like with the cr....and put vader....can you imagine the destructive power. I'll take 8 shots kill my own ship and destroy 4 of yours

 

  I think it would be great to design a "fan approved" version of the DP20.  I do not have the tools to make up the cool looking cards.  I still have not got my corvette model and played with how it works so at the moment the stats for the DP20 are a WIP.

 

Nice work!

 

What do you think?  

I see lots of views but not much interest in giving suggestions or input. 

I would have preferred to collaborate so it isn't just my ideas.

When it's finished it should look something like this:

 

 

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I'm not sure the fore sections ability is quite right.
Keep in mind that Huge ships attack each round with every secondary weapon. So each round you are attacking with a primary, 3 hardpoints, 2 turrets, and 2 missiles. There is no way a ship should be allowed 8 whole attacks. Not to mention giving it a systems upgrade seems like a bit much too.  This thing is a smorgasbord of upgrades, and IMO should be tuned way down.

 

Or knock it up to about 150 points before upgrades. 8 attacks = TIE Swarm, in a sense.

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I'm not sure the fore sections ability is quite right.

Keep in mind that Huge ships attack each round with every secondary weapon. So each round you are attacking with a primary, 3 hardpoints, 2 turrets, and 2 missiles. There is no way a ship should be allowed 8 whole attacks. Not to mention giving it a systems upgrade seems like a bit much too.  This thing is a smorgasbord of upgrades, and IMO should be tuned way down.

 

Or knock it up to about 150 points before upgrades. 8 attacks = TIE Swarm, in a sense.

 

Yes it does look toothy at a glance, and I see your points,

but I'll start off reminding you that using the same maneuver dial

as the CR90, three energy isn't going to allow for all 8 attacks. 

The fore section ability is my attempt to follow the 6-to-18

weapon ratio without adding 12 weapon slots. 

Including the CR90 primary, that's a 2/3rds ratio...

 

Ship          Cannon Stats                Miniatures

CR90:          6 weapons                 3 slots + primary.

DP20:         18 weapons              10 slots + primary x2

 

In doing a fair representation then,

following the ratios, what would you suggest?

It's also supposed to be slightly faster and more agile

and to just use the CR90 miniature and dial,

I'm not sure how I'm going to effect that one. 

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I like the look of the card but I feel it is way too powerful and would cost way too much.  I don't see the need for turrets or sensor upgrades as teams, cargo and hardpoints seem to be the Huge ships version of these, there really isn't much other cross-over other than certain crew cards.  I also don't think it should have the co-ordinate action as from my understanding it is a stand alone weapons platform and not really a command ship.  That is its point of difference with the corvette, otherwise why take the corvette, is it just a cheaper DP20?  You really just want to use TL and recover, reinforce actions with the DP20.

I think just having the primary weapon in just the fore section is fine so it doesn't violate the shoot primary weapon more than once rule (unless you have a special rule like gunner). 

 

Also what is the maneuver dial, energy system?  This is a faster ship than the CR90 so I think it should gain more energy for certain maneuvers (banks) to reflect this, again this would allow more energy and be different than the corvette.  Obviously certain weapon systems like missile do not use energy which is a good idea.

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I like the look of the card but I feel it is way too powerful and would cost way too much.  I don't see the need for turrets or sensor upgrades as teams, cargo and hardpoints seem to be the Huge ships version of these, there really isn't much other cross-over other than certain crew cards. 

 

I also don't think it should have the co-ordinate action as from my understanding it is a stand alone weapons platform and not really a command ship.  That is its point of difference with the corvette, otherwise why take the corvette, is it just a cheaper DP20?  You really just want to use TL and recover, reinforce actions with the DP20.

 

I think just having the primary weapon in just the fore section is fine so it doesn't violate the shoot primary weapon more than once rule (unless you have a special rule like gunner). 

 

Also what is the maneuver dial, energy system?  This is a faster ship than the CR90 so I think it should gain more energy for certain maneuvers (banks) to reflect this, again this would allow more energy and be different than the corvette.  Obviously certain weapon systems like missile do not use energy which is a good idea.

I'm using mainly these two references 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CR90_corvette

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DP20_frigate

and the only reference to energy I have is the

CR90: 60 MGLT/ hr

DP20: 75 MGLT/ hr

figures, which would suggest 25% more power for the DP20.
Speed  Energy  <- CR90
  4s              1
  3s              2
  2b              2
  2s              3
  1b              3
 
The only change between the GR75's dial and CR90's dial is energy though, so
I wouldn't change the maneuvers. I don't know that 25% warrants a whole point improvement, 4 energy for a 1 bank is +33%. But on the other hand that's close enough, so the solution I would suggest is to use the GR75 Dial and add 2 energy to each maneuver on that dial. 
Speed  Energy <- DP20 
  4s              2
  3s              3
  2b              3
  2s              4
  1b              4
  1s              5
 
My thinking on the turrets and sensors is that if you're going to have to add missiles
then why stop there, if it is a gunship 45 crew + 46 gunners, vs the CR90's 30 crew
How would you handle it then? 
 
If you do the math, the DP20 has three times the weaponry.
If you include the primary and call it four hardpoints for the CR90 
then not including the primary or missiles the DP20 should have 9 hardpoints?
That's why I added the two turrets and counted them as two hardpoints each,
added the second shot for the primary as another rear gun,
and that left 4 four hard points, one of which I replaced with the Systems upgrade,
after all it is a gunship, and there are 46 designated gunner personnel. 
Also, it doesn't show on that card but I planned to make the primary a front half
arc weapon,and the second primary shot a rear half arc shot, representing a
different gun, with primary weapon mechanics.
As I mentioned before there are only three unique team cards at the moment,
so are you suggesting adding more cargo upgrade slots in place of hardpoints?
 
There is no way out of Target Lock for both fore and aft as it will have two "missile launchers"
but I will reconsider the Coordinate action.  I'm leaning towards
 
Fore: Target Lock, Reinforce.
Aft: Target Lock, Reinforce, Recover. 
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