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Yeah, living in Portland and seeing the closest event is in Spokane is definitely disappointing. The PDX/Vancouver area has some great game stores with a lot of players, and is fairly central for a lot of people. As such I probably won't be able to attend Regionals, which I am sad about.

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Yeah, living in Portland and seeing the closest event is in Spokane is definitely disappointing. The PDX/Vancouver area has some great game stores with a lot of players, and is fairly central for a lot of people. As such I probably won't be able to attend Regionals, which I am sad about.

Did you miss that there is an event in Boise too?

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Having one event in a great store Like Uncles is not the issue. Its having BOTH Events 6 hour apart in the middle of now where. As was stated in the VERY 1st post WE LOVE Uncles Games. They have great staff and always support the gaming community. With that said. And as be said OVER AND OVER. The issue is with FFG and their failure to see that they did a face plant. I personally know of 3 stores off the i-5 that did apply for this event. And they too LOVE and Support X wing. If they had just one event in Spokane and one some where off the I-5 PDX to Seattle it would have been great. But to have both 6+ hours away from most the players,was almost like some one at FFG wanted to give the NW a big middle finger. " this is a quote I keep hearing from the local x wing clubs " But we are not the only Region to have this kind of issue. Good news is we are moving forward and starting our own NW " I-5 " Regional Unofficial championship. I am going to spend my own money and put up $200 dollars in prizes ect. Only because I love the game and Know as a business owner you can't always find the best help to run your dreams. 

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Plus All of the entry fee's will be used go toward more great stuff. $15 per player. Date and time TBA. 

 

The Motto of this event will be " Rebel Scum. " \

 

As for people sabotaging the post about this being an Anti Uncles Games post or such is just hurting the issue of a break down with FFG and its community in the NW. 

 

And saying someone is being negative buy point out the facts. AKA cost and location. Not the stores issue but a Major issue FFG overlooked. 

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Yeah, living in Portland and seeing the closest event is in Spokane is definitely disappointing. The PDX/Vancouver area has some great game stores with a lot of players, and is fairly central for a lot of people. As such I probably won't be able to attend Regionals, which I am sad about.

Did you miss that there is an event in Boise too?

 

Boise is even further. But good news its one hour from Spokane. 

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Yeah, living in Portland and seeing the closest event is in Spokane is definitely disappointing. The PDX/Vancouver area has some great game stores with a lot of players, and is fairly central for a lot of people. As such I probably won't be able to attend Regionals, which I am sad about.

Did you miss that there is an event in Boise too?

 

Boise is even further. But good news its one hour from Spokane. 

 

DavidWa I understand your frustration. I did want to point out however, that Boise is not one hour from Spokane (maybe you were thinking of Cour d'alene?). I have family that lives in the Boise area and I have made the trip many times. Google map pegs the trip at about 6.5 hours, but I have been able to do it in 6 weather permitting and without feeling overly rushed. I certainly do not have any desire to cause a rift in the X-Wing community. Only clarify misconceptions and express my excitement and desire to grow the X-Wing community and run great events. For example, I am working on a Furball tournament (among other things) on the night before the Regional to give players that are coming in the day before a chance to have some fun casual X-Wing and get the most out of their trip.

 

I fully support clearly and respectfully communicating to FFG what we as players want. That is how they will be able to continue to provide better and better support for a game that we both love. 

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No one has any issue with the store in Spokane, or the one in Boise, for that matter. The sole beef is with the very questionable decision to not have any of them within a reasonable distance of either of the major metro centers. 5+ hours drive each way is too much to ask, both in time and cost, particularly when other regions are tightly clustered enough to have several regionals within shorter drives and spaced out enough for people to attend more than one. It's just sloppy and everyone is entitled to call them on it or else they won't try to improve it next year.

 

Frankly, they should go to three tourneys per region (2 seems slight) and do a little homework on demographics for location (centering on largest populations) for at least the first two, then look in any gaps to put in a third. Frankly, if they had the two they had now and one in the Olympia or Centralia area in Washington, the discontent would be massively lower. It is a large area and no one will be fully pleased with any solution, but again, I point to the fact that if the biggger areas are the focus, you increase your odds of more players and more people being able to stay on the cheap with friends/family. I have zero options for that in Spokane or Boise, probably most don't. But I would have several in either Portland or Seattle...

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Well I still suggest any of you willing to spend $200+ dollars driving or flying to this NW Regional to STOP. Take this money and use it to buy prizes at your local game store and setup a Local NW X wing event. This will allows for some great prizes and should draw 20+ players to the store for a great day of X wing. VS the 12+ if your lucky that you will get at the Regional Event. 

 

If you get 20+ players at $15 a player that would add an extra $300 to the event so prizes for the to Eight would be Great. Store Gift cards are the best in many cases. 

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Well I still suggest any of you willing to spend $200+ dollars driving or flying to this NW Regional to STOP. Take this money and use it to buy prizes at your local game store and setup a Local NW X wing event. This will allows for some great prizes and should draw 20+ players to the store for a great day of X wing. VS the 12+ if your lucky that you will get at the Regional Event. 

 

If you get 20+ players at $15 a player that would add an extra $300 to the event so prizes for the to Eight would be Great. Store Gift cards are the best in many cases. 

 

I for one approve of this message. 

 

I am one of those who have been complaining. But I tried to make it clear that the store is not to blame. FFGs event coordinator/approver/location picker is to be held responsible. If they are wise, they would correct this oversight (there is more than enough time to ship more regional swap boxes) and post new, closer locations as soon as possible. I very truly hope that they do this as, having been to two store championships already with a third on the horizon, it would be a great disappointment to get a buy to an event in a place I have no intention of going to.

 

And as if more examples were needed, ponder this: those players who are married will have a hard time justifying the cost of the trip to their significant other. To them, generally, we go and push plastic models around for 4 hours. Hardly a great case for spending hundreds of dollars and disappearing for an entire day. 

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... we are moving forward and starting our own NW " I-5 " Regional Unofficial championship. I am going to spend my own money and put up $200 dollars in prizes ect. Only because I love the game ...

What store is this being held at? And when?

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Fantasy Flight was very disappointed that no stores in the Seattle or Portland metropolitan area signed up for an X-Wing Regional. That's straight from the top of the head of Organized Play at FFG. Anyone who claims otherwise apparently didn't fill out the form correctly. FFG plans to improve their application process next year. In the meantime any Stores who dispute this can take it directly to FFG. Those guys are super accessible to retailers and anyone who is telling you otherwise is way off base. In addition they have learned a lot this year so your can expect an even better OP process next year. Case closed.

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Looks like it posted on FFG page here Jan 16th.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4607

Considering no Portland or Seattle area locations applied ... It seems mistimed, under-publicized, or something.

Also, the timing of it flies in the face of their Store Championship announcement that said (in writing) that regional locations chosen would be influenced by store championship attendance!!! Love your product FFG ... But what the heck is up with that. Possibly the two biggest Portland area X-Wing stores still haven't held their store championship yet?!?

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Fantasy Flight was very disappointed that no stores in the Seattle or Portland metropolitan area signed up for an X-Wing Regional. That's straight from the top of the head of Organized Play at FFG. Anyone who claims otherwise apparently didn't fill out the form correctly. FFG plans to improve their application process next year. In the meantime any Stores who dispute this can take it directly to FFG. Those guys are super accessible to retailers and anyone who is telling you otherwise is way off base. In addition they have learned a lot this year so your can expect an even better OP process next year. Case closed.

 

I have a really hard time believing that no one in the PDX / Seattle area applied for a regional slot...

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Just talked to my boss and she did indeed apply here in Salem . 

 

They basically said we have reviewed all applications and did not select your store to host this year, please try again next year. They also said they had a number of applications, but that could just have been more automated then the actual volume of applications in the north west area. So yeah sorry to say it sounds more like one of their guys screwed up by not checking the maps. Ah well. We shall all do our best and hope things are better next year. Now the decision comes do I feel it is better to drive several hours to Spokane, or do I just try and get the prizes through ebay lol

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Plus All of the entry fee's will be used go toward more great stuff. $15 per player. Date and time TBA. 

 

The Motto of this event will be " Rebel Scum. " \

 

As for people sabotaging the post about this being an Anti Uncles Games post or such is just hurting the issue of a break down with FFG and its community in the NW. 

 

And saying someone is being negative buy point out the facts. AKA cost and location. Not the stores issue but a Major issue FFG overlooked. 

I think the idea of holding tournaments for people unable to attend either regional tournament for whatever reason is a great idea, as the more events in the community the better. However, recommending players not attend regional tournaments is actively working to harm the community.

 

This thread is titled: Spokane Washington Uncle's Games. Perhaps the title could be renamed to more appropriately reflect what you want the topic to be? As I have mentioned, I am completely in support of communicating what you want to FFG so they can improve organized play. I think running events for those who cannot attend a regional tournament is great. Please understand that when you title a thread with my stores name alone, and then proceed to tell players that they should not attend a tournament I am hosting, I do not see that as a neutral thread about a breakdown between FFG and NW X-Wing players.

 

I look forward to sharing the details on what we have planned for everyone at our regional tournament and playing great games with those able to attend. 

 

Fly casual

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https://www.facebook.com/Ihawkeye Dear FFG, since you monitor the forums, here is my FB page, i post a lot of pics, have several albums of local SW:x-wing games and events, I live in McMinnville, Oregon. You :ph34r:  us with the events all being 10+ hours away when the level of X-wing player here (silicon forest) certainly Trumps what is over there. 4 hours is acceptable, i would drive to even the lower area Seattle events. Heck even a British company knows to spread events in California and lower Seattle venue for regional events. I am directly calling out the Moderator to contact the guy who is responsible for the events and have him add an N. Oregon or Lower Washington event

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Well said Kyln. I am sorry to see the negative feeback associated with Uncles games which is a great store. And i am hoping myself to make the regionals even though it is several hours away. I need to figure out the cost and see if it is feesable, also a question for them

(To Uncles games, is this a 1 day event or are you splitting it into 2 days?)

But yeah I do not think anyone should condem the store or tell others not to go to the event.

For whatever the reason this is how it is, alot of people are not happy about the distance but again it is not the stores fault. I am sure even if an event was here in portland or salem or even eugene there would be many ppl from washington or further who would be upset.

Hopefully ffg will take note and either rectify this years situation or make strides to plan better next year.

Ultimately we all love the game and want to support it.

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Well said Kyln. I am sorry to see the negative feeback associated with Uncles games which is a great store. And i am hoping myself to make the regionals even though it is several hours away. I need to figure out the cost and see if it is feesable, also a question for them

(To Uncles games, is this a 1 day event or are you splitting it into 2 days?)

But yeah I do not think anyone should condem the store or tell others not to go to the event.

For whatever the reason this is how it is, alot of people are not happy about the distance but again it is not the stores fault. I am sure even if an event was here in portland or salem or even eugene there would be many ppl from washington or further who would be upset.

Hopefully ffg will take note and either rectify this years situation or make strides to plan better next year.

Ultimately we all love the game and want to support it.

The Spokane Regional will be a one day event. That being said, we will be doing a Furball event the night before for those who are coming in the day before and want to play some X-Wing. Fun, casual, get the jitters out kind of event. I am also working on some other things as well, but they are still too preliminary to give much information on. 

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Kyln, it also might help to get a few business that are local to do a group rate for hotel the night before and like a furball pizza break delivery or something to mitigate this disaster of FFG planning ...are you listening FFG ?? or Just add another event in the Un-served area FFG

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Kyln, it also might help to get a few business that are local to do a group rate for hotel the night before and like a furball pizza break delivery or something to mitigate this disaster of FFG planning ...are you listening FFG ?? or Just add another event in the Un-served area FFG

I am working on that currently, there are several nearby hotels (we are right next to the Spokane Convention center) and I want to find best deal possible. 

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Fantasy Flight was very disappointed that no stores in the Seattle or Portland metropolitan area signed up for an X-Wing Regional. That's straight from the top of the head of Organized Play at FFG. Anyone who claims otherwise apparently didn't fill out the form correctly. FFG plans to improve their application process next year. In the meantime any Stores who dispute this can take it directly to FFG. Those guys are super accessible to retailers and anyone who is telling you otherwise is way off base. In addition they have learned a lot this year so your can expect an even better OP process next year. Case closed.

 

I have a really hard time believing that no one in the PDX / Seattle area applied for a regional slot...

 

That's funny that you say that because that's what THEY said too.  They were pretty amazed and disappointed that no stores applied.  As for other issues many of them are being ironed out for next year (especially the timing of events and application process). 

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https://www.facebook.com/Ihawkeye Dear FFG, since you monitor the forums, here is my FB page, i post a lot of pics, have several albums of local SW:x-wing games and events, I live in McMinnville, Oregon. You :ph34r:  us with the events all being 10+ hours away when the level of X-wing player here (silicon forest) certainly Trumps what is over there. 4 hours is acceptable, i would drive to even the lower area Seattle events. Heck even a British company knows to spread events in California and lower Seattle venue for regional events. I am directly calling out the Moderator to contact the guy who is responsible for the events and have him add an N. Oregon or Lower Washington event

I talked directly to the head of Organized Play a few days ago at the Gama Trade Show.  Sadly no one applied in the Seattle/Portland area and so things will remain as stands this year.  Next year as the bugs are worked out with Regionals FFG hope to make sure there is one event in the Seattle/Portland, but of course it still will need stores to apply. Consider FFG barely had Organized Play 2 years ago, they are working pretty hard to get this all worked out and unlike say WotC they have to do it across multiple games and fanbases. Things in the pipe include a Judge program and Tournament Software so just be patient here.

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This is very untrue, i saw the email from my boss here in salem, we did indeed apply. I am also sure other stores such as gaurdian games applied. We were turned down this year. and encouraged to try again next year, so this is very hard to believe especially being we have proof otherwise. this is the email from ffg's reply to the application here.

"Greetings!

 

Thank you for submitting an application to host a 2014 Regional Championship. We were excited by the number of applications we received and each decision was difficult to make. After reviewing all of the applications, we wish to inform you that we did not select your venue to host a 2014 Regional Championship. We encourage you to apply again next year.

 

 

Thank you."

So either the head of ffg organized play is covering himself or somewhere something got messed up. Regardless as i said, this is the situation and making excuses is not going to change the situation. We did apply, others applied, to say no one applied is completely inaccurate. I love ffg and want very much to support this game, despite the misakes made with this years regionals. But it does irk me to keep hearing NO ONE applied in our area when this is clearly not true.

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