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  1. I kind of think Rebels going Squadron Heavy outside of the weird 8 YT-2400 lists is dead in the water because the concentration of aces is the only reason their death balls tend to work.
  2. I dont think the question to ask is if Aces are better than generics as I would suggest FFG outright introducing rules to limit Ace usage means they do consider them to be too much. The question is whether squadron heavy fleets will still be any good with just 4 aces when going into the squadron light builds (the classic "I just brought Shara and Tycho to buy me time if you do have squadrons and not to be a tto great loss of points if you did not" style)? I do wonder what will happen to the mid tear aces that usually only see table time because they are slightly better than their generic version and there is a couple of points to spare? Actually I dont, because the answer is they will not be seen any more.
  3. So the reasoning for the cap on aces is down to the fact that they have found that taking squadrons is an "All or nothing affair" and they want players to make harder choices in fleet building. Not sure how the cap achieves this harder choice because to me it simply makes Squadron focused fleets just a nothing affair from now on because standard fighters generally do not have enough throughput in game to really be worth it.
  4. You would then hit the either use the less than thrilling decision point of either using the commander ability you paid points for or ignore it and use an activation to generate a token to keep your upgrade working. This is where you have to hope the token generation/transfer tricks dont get have their costs raised. Of course it could also turn out that the upgrades that need tokens to be readied are not that major at which point Leia remains valuable.
  5. Leia is going down in points but we are also moving into a system where some upgrades need tokens spent on them to be readied which means if a lot of key force multiplier upgrades switch to the new system then her ability to get a token effect may not eve be worth 28pts.
  6. Done some tinkering. Instead of hoping for a magical christmas land bomber line up I've went for a more conventional MC75 that is there just to drop and unload a lot of dice into a target after the MC80 has softened it up. There is enough room to drop the 3 YT-2400s for a TRC90 which is less overall damage soak and figher control than the 2400s but is a lot more reliable at putting some hurt on an enemy ship. GR-75 Medium Transports (18) • Leia Organa (3) = 21 Points MC75 Armored Cruiser (104) • Damage Control Officer (5) • Electronic Countermeasures (7) • External Racks (3) • Leading Shots (4) • XI7 Turbolasers (6) • Aspiration (3) = 132 Points MC80 Star Cruiser (96) • Admiral Raddus (26) • Ray Antilles (7) • Caitken and Shollan (6) • SW-7 Ion Batteries (5) • XI7 Turbolasers (6) • Spinal Armament (9) • Mon Karren (8) = 163 Points Squadrons: • 3 x YT-2400 (48) • Shara Bey (17) • Tycho Celchu (16) = 81 Points Total Points: 397
  7. Yep. The idea was drop the 75 down and have my first actiation be the transport. 2nd activation sees the 75 blast the tokens away with its first arc, then the 2nd arc and bombers ruin things followed by the MC80 if the target is still standing. In following turns the MC75 will activate first and strip a target for the MC 80 to focus fire on. Its easy enough to drop Gold Squadron for Jan Ors with a bit of tinkering
  8. I considered the 2 B wings and Gold to be a drop-in turn bonus on what the 75 does so was not overly worried about them getting tied up after their initial bombing run. I've not seen many rebel lists advocate the use of Jan Ors or basic HWKs so figured Intel was not really a thing for us. As to Leading Shots. The MC75 does not have Leading shots because it was geared up to strip shields with the WBT and Overload Pulse and I left it off the MC80 because most of the dice I will roll will be blue which can be fixed with SW-7s and I figured Raymus and his free concentrated fire token could make up for a bad bit of red rolling. That said I can easily knock together an MC80 that leaverages Leading shots up close over SW-7s
  9. Due to living in a part of Europe in which the supply of products from FFG is the stuff of fairy tales and legends I'm looking at doing a Rebel build that does not involve the Starhawk or Agate. I had in mind a double big ship build that uses Raddus to drop in a kitted out MC75 that in turn drops bombers after it has shot a target to **** and back. To that end I have the following as a base. What are peoples' thoughts? MC75 Armored Cruiser (104) • Flight Commander (3) • Weapons Battery Techs (5) • Rapid Launch Bays (6) • Electronic Countermeasures (7) • Overload Pulse (8) • XI7 Turbolasers (6) • Aspiration (3) = 142 Points MC80 Star Cruiser (96) • Admiral Raddus (26) • Ray Antilles (7) • Weapons Battery Techs (5) • Fighter Coordination Team (3) • SW-7 Ion Batteries (5) • XI7 Turbolasers (6) • XX-9 Turbolasers (5) • Mon Karren (8) = 161 Points GR-75 Medium Transports (18) • Leia Organa (3) = 21 Points Squadrons: • 2 x B-wing Squadron (28) • Tycho Celchu (16) • Shara Bey (17) • Gold Squadron (12) = 73 Points Total Points: 397 I'm not totally sold on the MC80 and can see reasoning for dropping it in favour of a faster MC30 and say a couple of YT-2400s to allow more options on the MC75 drop in turn 2 and also better handle enemy squadrons.
  10. What role is the Starhawk meant to be filling in the Rebels? It's got a decent amount of firepower but the limited upgrades means it cant do much beyond roll a couple of extra dice and for much less points you can have an MC75 or MC80 throwing out serious fire power. It has a lot of hull but its tokens are a bit limited and there is no defensive retrofit to be able to protect the important tokens from accuracy which means that hull will be stripped away with ease. It feels like you can get more mileage out of an 9 hull MC75 Armoured Cruiser with Electronic counter measures protecting the brace which starts at 111pts before adding guns than the 140pts + 14 hull Starhawk. A squadron value of just 3 means it does not better than most of the other big ships Rebels have for pushing fighters around, but still has that huge additional cost just to do the same work And as an added bonus you have a command of 4 making it harder to use than the other big ships it is competing with Oh and you can get an additional 10pts super weapon gimmick that is fiddly to set up, clearly telegraphed and hard to actually capitalise if you do pull it off because most you have fewer ships in your fleet due to the Starhawk's price tag. As a complete package it just feels like a ship that is just ok at most things in a game system that rewards you for taking ships that skew heavily in one direction.
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