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  1. I see what you mean stimpaksam, but the issue is in the definition of the Surge Keyword : The Surge needs the revelation, it's in its definition. Surge doesn't just mean "Reveal an additional card". It means, imo, "Reveal an additional card if the card with the surge keyword was revealed".
  2. Hello, I have a question about the Lighless Grotto (The Wilds of Rhovanion). There is a Lightless Grotto as an active location. http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/uploads/lotr/ffg_MEC65_63.jpg After commiting characters to the quest, I discard cards from the top of the encounter deck until a treachery is discarded. I resolve the When Revealed effect of that card but I do NOT reveal that card because it has just been discarded. What happens if the discarded card is Denizen of the Deep and there is no ennemy in the staging area ? http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/uploads/lotr/ffg_MEC65_47.jpg The card gains Surge. But Surge is a keyword that is resolved when an encounter card is revealed from the encounter deck. Denizen of the Deep was not revealed from the encounter deck and "resolve the when revealed effect" is not the same that "reveal the card", imo. My point of view is the card gains the Surge keyword but this keyword is not resolved beceause the card was not revealed from the encounter deck. In the same way, if there is a Doomed keyword on the treachery discarded, the players do not raise their threat. What do you think about this ?
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