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  1. No, he has 5Bro. I just forgot to mention him because he was never really a factor in either match; my opponent leisurely stayed cloaked and flawlessly came up with 2-3 Evades against every attack, took locks, and just never needed 5Bro. It was pretty demoralizing, knowing that he had Force available that he never needed to use, and I STILL couldn’t hit Whisper. What are the chances they’ll take the Gunner slot off of the Phantom? ‘Cause it really, really does NOT need it.
  2. I think what it may boil down to is simple: I thought the prequels were... what they were, which is sort-of-entertaining B (C?) sci-fi films, but not nearly as good as the Star Wars I knew and loved, and couldn’t really get into CW. Meanwhile, I genuinely and unreservedly have thoroughly enjoyed all of the Disney era films and The Mandalorian. So to me, Filoni represents the bad old stuff, and is holding Star Wars back. I’m not particularly impressed with his work, so I look at him as a really average fanboy, and given that SW fanboys are a dime a dozen, and a lot of them have real writing talent, I’d really just rather have one of them at the helm. Anyway. Carry on looking forward to Bad Batch, guys. I’ll probably give it the old college try. And thanks for the tips about not watching all of CW. I still don’t get why and how it can be hailed as great SW TV when everyone seems to agree that great swaths of it are totally skippable, but maybe I’ll give it another go and be wrong. I’d like to be wrong; it’s not like I enjoy not enjoying things.
  3. My comparisons weren’t made in bad faith. I guess we just value different aspects of film and TV. Like, before the final couple seasons of Game of Thrones, I would tell anyone who would listen to go watch it immediately. After the last couple seasons, and particularly the finale, I would hesitate to mention it to most people as a show worth watching. I tend to prefer consistency. Maybe I ought to try making an exception in this case.
  4. Wasn’t meant to be condescending at all. I’ve merely found that people about 5 years younger than myself tend to be more accepting of certain aspects of the story, and I’m wondering if I’m often the odd man out in such discussions because of my age (or however you wish to frame it). No value judgments intended.
  5. I actually don’t think you and I are very far apart on most of this. Just wanted to clear a few things up... The way you’re characterizing what I said about The Mandalorian isn’t quite right. I liked the whole thing, except one episode, and I disliked that one so much that I went to look up the director afterward, and found it was Filoni. I know he also directed the first episode, which was fine. I’m not saying he’s never produced good work. I just think that his work is inconsistent, and he really should be a consultant on Star Wars, not The Guy. I dunno who The Guy ought to be, but it shouldn’t be someone who wrote and directed something as dumb as that particular episode of Mando. Nor should it be anyone who had anything to do with giving Maul legs. That’s the laziest pandering SW has ever engaged in, and it just annoys the **** out of me that SW is written in a way that clearly shows that quite often there are no adults in the room telling George/Dave/whoever that just because you have an idea doesn’t mean it’s good. Backing up a bit: I LOVED the Bryce Dallas Howard episode of Mando. Talk about actually showing the consequences of war and a lawless galaxy affecting real people? There it is. Plus, I really like the Cara Dune character. And I think it did a good job of humanizing the Mando. Also, maybe I’m giving Filoni too much flak for derivative characters and small world syndrome. I had been under the impression that he was the architect of the Maul/Savage stories (by the way, I get that Sith are supposed to have menacing names like “Tyranus” and “Bane,” but... “Savage Opress?” Yeesh. Why didn’t they just call him “Darth Scary Badman?”). I really, really hate that they brought Maul back. On so many levels. It’s not good writing. And if you can cut a Sith in half, and have him survive, why do a Jedi even use lightsabers? It’s just dumb, and it makes me angry that they did it, and even as a guy who thought Maul was pretty cool, I don’t want to talk about it any more. But the fact that Filoni had any part in making that happen... ugh. I just want to send everyone involved in that to remedial writing classes. Anyway, all that aside, I appreciate your help and suggestion that I get some sort of curated CW playlist going. But I gotta tell you: When I recommend good art to someone, I don’t usually tell them to skip certain bits. “Go listen to most of ‘Dark Side of the Moon,’ but skip tracks 2, 3, 7, and 9.” “Watch ‘The Princess Bride,’ but fast forward through the first ten minutes.” “Read ‘The Lord of the Rings,’ but skim through everything between Rivendell and Moria in the first book, and skip the first half of the second book.” No, I’m afraid that if I’m gonna watch Clone Wars, I’m gonna have to slog through the whole thing. Maybe it’s just me, but I really don’t care for ‘a la carte’ culture. If you’re gonna make sixty episodes of something, make it good! If you’ve only got twelve good episodes in you, make one great season and be done with it! To do otherwise shows a lack of editing, which is arguably the most important part of the creative process.
  6. Ah, ferchrissake. I’m not pretending that I’ve got some sort of stranglehold on objective truth. I’m not trying to pretend that my opinion carries some sort of universal weight because it ascribes to some sort of Platonic ideal of aesthetic theory. I’m just saying that I think Filoni is an unremarkable talent, and I don’t like his f***ing cartoon, and I’m pointing out what I believe are weaknesses in it to illustrate my points and invite debate. The entire point of the discussion is that it may have legitimate strengths, but I struggle to dig to them because of the multiple problems I have with the presentation. And once again, the biggest problem is that he bothered to make a show about a conflict that Lucas set up poorly to begin with. You don’t have to agree. Go ahead and like what you like. I’m not here to yuck your yum. But don’t pretend that your opinion is any more valid (or less objectionable) than mine. The big difference between us is that you feel the need to use veiled condescension, while I’m happy to just tell you straight out that your last post was insufferable. Plenty of others have disagreed with me here. None of the rest of them have been so rude about it. And by the way, between Lucas’ shoddy later work, and Filoni, they’ve definitely created a story which all-too-often violates most of the basics of good storytelling that any undergraduate writing, film, or drama course in America would teach. “Show, Don’t Tell.” Create (anti)heroes with pathos. Write dialogue that makes sense, that feels real, and uses words that real people would use in a given situation. Tie up loose ends. Don’t make your world feel “small” by overusing characters. Edit the boring parts out. That sort of thing. If you wanna Siskel & Ebert this ****, I’ll play all day. But Siskel never told Ebert he was being “inane,” and “pretending to have special insights” because he had a differing opinion. Get lost.
  7. Interesting takes, guys. I know I’m probably in the minority in not liking the Clone Wars series. I’m curious, if you guys will indulge a question: How old are you all? Roughly. The reason I ask is that I was born in May of ‘77, the same time that ANH released. I’m obviously too young to have seen it on its first theatrical run, but I clearly remember one of my first theatre experiences being ESB (man, was I pissed at Lando for turning his friends in after that movie!). Most of my Star Wars loving friends are about 5-8 years younger than I am, and all of them are more charitable to the prequels and Clone Wars content than I am. I do wonder if age is a factor. As for the cartoon, part of it is that I do not at all enjoy the art style. The fake-looking plastic beards, Anakin’s ridiculous nose, the jerky, mechanical CGI. It constantly makes me feel like I’m watching a video game cutscene from the mid-90’s (like the opening of Baldur’s Gate or something). It’s like, anti-immersive. If the Clone Wars had been animated in the style of say, The Dragon Prince (a really great animated series you can find on Netflix, I highly recommend it), maybe I’d have an easier time getting started. Rebels is a bit easier on the eyes, and I really like the main cast; Zeb, Hera, Sabine and friends are pretty cool. I’m a little puzzled at some of the artistic choices, like wide, squat TIE Fighters and ISD’s with giraffe-like “necks” below the bridge, but I can overlook those, for the most part. Resistance looks great. It’s still cartoonier than I would prefer, but I like the colorful, high-contrast characters and the accurately-modeled ships. The pacing is fast, but it works pretty well, usually. So, with a visual medium like a cartoon, it’s a lot to try and get past for me to get into the CW story. But then there’s the voice acting, which I also hate. Obi-Wan particularly sounds imperious and smarmy, rather than dry and clever. But the real problem, I think, is the source material. Genetically engineered slave soldiers versus smart-alecky robots. Who cares if they die? Where’s the drama? And I dislike the Jedi. They’re a-holes. One of my favorite things about the sequel films, and particularly about TLJ, was that Luke finally called out the Jedi for their arrogance and incompetence. I am, at my very core, opposed to dogmatic fools, and the Jedi Order is the epitome of dogmatic foolishness. It’s really hard to root for them. I will probably, out of some sense of obligation, try the Clone Wars again. I’ve tried three or four times to watch it already. But it always feels more like work than recreation. Please, disagree with me. I’m looking for reasons to like CW. But it’s like, I had a friend in college, whom I found to be a pretty harsh critic, and he said something once that’s stuck with me. “If I find myself enjoying a piece of art, I don’t go looking for problems. I just sit back and forgive any minor annoyances. It’s when I’m legitimately NOT enjoying something that I start digging into why, and then it’s hard to un-see the flaws in it.” And that’s CW for me.
  8. Rebels was passable (except for the return of Maul, but I really ought to blame that on the unwatchable Clone Wars, which is I guess originally responsible for his resurrection, right? I don’t know for sure, I honestly can’t watch the show for more than two episodes). Mandalorian was great. I loved every episode except the return to Mos Eisley, which I found to be so bad that I went to look up the director afterward. It was Filoni. Clone Wars was Filoni’s big breakout, and as I’ve said, I think it’s just horrid. Writing, art style, plot, characters... I’ve tried, man. I can’t find anything to like about it. It tells pointless stories about characters I barely like and can’t care about fighting against wisecracking marionettes. I think this isn’t ALL Filoni’s fault; the biggest thing that robs the Clone Wars of its dramatic impact is that I’m essentially watching soldier-slaves fight puppets, and like, who am I to root for? What’s the worst that happens? The robots win and galactic megacorps rule the galaxy under the Sith? Or is it that the clones win, and a Sith rules as Galactic Emperor? What’s the practical difference for the small folk? There isn’t one. Resistance, I actually like. But everyone else seems to hate it. Any way you cut it, I’m not a big Filoni fan. It’s a shame; I can see he’s clearly passionate and knowledgeable, but he’s a hack writer. He also makes a lot of the same mistakes that George made at the end... the biggest being that there are TRILLIONS of characters in this galaxy, and rather than show us new ones, he keeps going back to the same well, just like George did (Hi Episode III Chewie! Hi young Boba Fett! Hi young Darth Vader, builder of C-3P0 and owner of R2!). Even Filoni’s “new” characters are derivative. Bring Maul back. Give us Maul’s brother (who’s barely distinguishable, at a glance). Put Ahsoka in everything. Show us Jabba’s son (really). What’s more mysterious than Yoda? BABY YODA! Boba Fett was cool, right? What about another silent Mandalorian bounty hunter who looks a lot like him? And ****, let’s bring back Fett and put him in that series, too. Some continuity is desirable to create through-lines. But Lucas overdid it, and Filoni’s even worse about it.
  9. My friend’s built an extremely frustrating list that I can’t seem to crack. Haven’t got every detail, but it’s basically Ryad (Advanced Sensors, Shield Upgrade, Juke) and Whisper (Advanced Sendors, Juke, Stealth Device). First time we battled, I’d brought Soontir, Ryad, and... I want to say Duchess. My dice weren’t good. Soontir melted in one shot, Duchess took two. Ryad made a bit of a fight of it, but couldn’t win. Second time was ZiZi, Tallie, Ello, Nien, all Heroic, and not much else. Again, middling to poor dice, but despite controlling range, and generally flying carefully, I had barely cracked Ryan’s shields by the time Ello had died (two shots at long had left him on 1 hull, and a third killed him), and Whisper had one-shotted Tallie. Most of the time, Whisper was carrying around multiple evade tokens and was basically unhittable. Never mind the cloaking; that was basically good for a pre-maneuver reposition, making pinning her down a joke. I’m kind of losing faith in any ship with two attack dice; this opponent is also the same guy who’s discovered that multiple StarVipers are unbelievable, and that I also can’t seem to hit his Jedi fighters. Suggestions?
  10. It’s possible this is what is meant by “balance.” It’s what I assumed when I was younger, and was trying to make sense of the prequel films. But these days, I think it’s too prosaic, too on-the-nose. The literal reduction to two people who wield the Force on each “side” of it doesn’t really even imply balance, since Palpatine is clearly much stronger in the Force even than Yoda. As @GuacCousteau pointed out, the whole “Prophecy” thing is very poorly defined; I think everyone has been afraid to touch it, because nobody knows what the **** George was thinking... and it’s possible that even George wasn’t entirely sure, so I sort of feel like we’re free to interpret it for ourselves. Here’s what *I* personally choose to think. Dooku was the Jedi Master of Qui-Gon Jinn. Sidious likely held sway over Dooku, either overtly or covertly, for some time before fully seducing him to the Dark Side. During that time, Sidious may have encouraged Dooku to instill a reverence for the prophecies of kooky old Jedi mystics in Qui-Gon, and a reverence for the “Prophecy of the Chosen One” in particular. Sidious then worked his Sith magic to create life (secrets he gained from Plagueis) within Shmi, using his own powers of foresight to predict that Qui-Gon would some day cross paths with Anakin. I like to believe that Sidious was pulling strings the whole time, even eventually hiring or manipulating Tusken Raiders to kidnap and torture Shmi to death, knowing that it would push Anakin closer to darkness, closer to the edge. Meanwhile, all of that stuff about “Vergences in the Force” and “midichlorians” can be attributed to Qui-Gon being steeped in ancient Jedi lore, and perhaps a bit too credulous, a bit too ready to believe in fringe Jedi theory. That would explain why Ki-Adi-Mundi seems a bit taken aback when Qui-Gon says he’s detected “a Vergence in the Force.” “A Vergence, you say?” asks Mundi, with arched brows. Much as one modern zoologist might say to another, “a Sasquatch, you say?” Midichlorians, similarly, are only EVER really described to us by Jinn, himself. His student, Obi-Wan, also talks about them, but really only with Qui-Gon. It’s somehow understood that they have tested Yoda’s blood for them as well, but we don’t really have any reason other than the words of one of the most misguided Jedi in the saga to even believe that these midichlorians are important. It’s entirely possible that this is a pseudoscience akin to late nineteenth century phrenology (the practice of psychology and intelligence testing based upon measuring the human skull, which turned out to be horse ****). There may be some loose correlation between midichlorians in the blood and connection to the Force, but are midichlorians a symptom of strength in the Force, or the cause of it? How reliable is Qui-Gon’s science? Does he have samples of Yoda’s blood because there’s a vast database of Jedi blood that he has access to? Or did Yoda roll up his sleeve in order to satisfy his friend’s pseudoscientific curiosity (much as I might consent to having my palm read, or horoscopic chart done by a friend who was interested in the occult)?
  11. No, I actually think that ended just fine. I don’t agree with everything you said, particularly as it relates to Rogue One, but it’s clear, at least, that you understand something about film.
  12. Cut mercilessly. Surprise yourself. Alternatively, one MC30 with better upgrades, and one CR90 with Turbolaser Reroute Circuits. Two ships that will seldom disappoint. With the caveat that MC30’s become ten times as scary if you’re player one. Get a bid, or don’t bother with them. Just my opinion.
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