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    3 hours ago, ceejlekabeejle said:

    Yeah I can see the logic behind that. I'm inclined to agree with you. This said, I think it's a matter of interpretation. You feel it's more thematic that a task force be established and permanent for the duration of a campaign; equally, I could see a task force being specific to each individual engagement, representing a flexible force able to perform multiple roles.

    In which case, as I said, it comes down to the individual group's decision. To Mr Dumb I'd still say, talk about it as a group, decide what fits with your narrative, and agree it amongst yourselves.

    I prefer MrDumbAz lol

    But I couldn't find my rule book for a bit and wasn't sure if it just said title, or unique title cards. I'm going off of what Diablo posted. 

    So the RAW interpretation would be yes we can swap out task force titles?

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    2 hours ago, Tokra said:

    If all are this even, and no one is able to get a 10 or 9 point win, they don't deserve to win.

    And what happen in your case when there was one match with 10 and all other with 6? The person with the bye is getting punished with a 6 point "draw". Without giving him the chance to do anything against it.

    A bye should NEVER be a punishment. In other games it does count as a full win. In armada it just dont work, because there is no "win". Only a score from 1 to 10. And i find that 8 is a fair middle for a bye. Not to low to punish the person with the bye to much, and not to high to make it to unbalanced.

    I think closer scoring games means that the skill levels of both the players are of equal level. 

    Scores of 10-1, 9-2 look more like someone made a costly mistake, either with their build, deployment, or tactics, or is just the big fish in the small pond. 

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    1 hour ago, comatose said:

    As to value of a bye, I think 8 with a 140 MoV is just fine. The only adjustment that I would make is for the size of the tournament, possibly just the first round. In a tournament with less than 10 players, starting with an 8 is a huge boost.

    However, larger tournaments are a different story.

    I've had some discussions with @CaribbeanNinja and others about the ideal first round performance at a large tournament like Worlds or Gen Con. When we last discussed it, we felt like a 6-5 LOSS was probably the preferable first round performance. The logic was that you had a better chance of pulling a 10-1 or 9-2 in your second game against someone who lost the first round than you would getting 15 or 16 points by going with pure wins. It would also mean being paired with the 16 point people in Round 3 rather than the possible 18's and 20's.

    Does anyone know where I can find the result of all the rounds of a large tournament?

    I'm just a little curious to see what a bye would be if it was calculated by my suggestion. If as you said the 8-3 feeling about right, and the calculation ends up the same I think an argument could be made to switch to average MOV and that would also address changing the points awarded in smaller tournaments.  

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    23 minutes ago, PartyPotato said:

    I believe it was because some one showed up late CAUSING a bye for the first round only... after that there was an even amount of players so no more bye's were necessary.  I'm assuming the late comer probably got a 4 with an MOV 0 or some other low score. 

    Yes, this is what happened. We ended up giving the latecomer a 0. 

     

    Also to address @Tokra

    Let's say there are an uneven number of people all fairly equally skill and everyone gets 6-5. Now the person with the bye is in first place and in a really good position to win the tournament if everyone keeps getting 6-5s. I believe averaging up the MOV does not penalize the person with the bye, because it will put them right in the middle and they have neither a point advantage or disadvantage. 

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    I played in a store championship the other day and a player ended up showing up late so one player received a bye the first round.

    Unfortunately this resulted in player with the bye rocketing all the way up to second place due to most of the other games being played that round resulting in 7-4 or 6-5 scores. Has anyone else thought that the bye would be more balanced if it took the average of margin of victory to calculate the tournament points?

    I just seems like 8 points is too much on average especially if most of the games are tight. This would now place the player with the bye right in the middle of the pairings instead of in our case with the top person. In out store championship the player who won had 23 tournament points (9 or 10 of those points can from being matched up with the player with the bye in the second round). Averaging 8 point in the other two rounds would've been more than enough to win the tournament for the player with the bye netting them 24 points for the whole tournament.

    Had our tournament continued with a odd number of players, whoever received a bye would be in a better position to finish higher in the standings at the end of the day than most players who actually played in the round.

     

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