Khazadune
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13 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:When we see capital ships close together, they go down quickly (as in the opening of Episode 3). Combine that with the fact that ships' guns lose effectiveness at long range (meaning they're more effective at close range), and you get a quick death for ships getting close to other cruisers.
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1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:Except the battle in Last Jedi, of course. Where distance makes the shots that impact the target's shields ineffective.
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11 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Dude who do you think you're talking to? Get your attributions straight.
We're not talking about M16s.
I guess you didn’t make the above comments.
and no, we aren’t talking about m16’s but should we talk about it in another manner? It’s a shot fired with a max range. Unless you want to explain how we should be thinking of this differently? So far you have your quippy one liners and no real answers.
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18 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:I'm looking to record audio of my sessions to kind of chronicle the game.
Does anyone know of a good, free, program to do that with, that also doesn't create massive files?I use my IPhone, but it’s not by any means a good program nor is it easy to review and/or transcribe. In a pinch it works though.
I would also be interested in a better solution though.
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59 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Except the battle in Last Jedi, of course. Where distance makes the shots that impact the target's shields ineffective.
Is there an extreme range to weaponry? Yes. Does this mean the inverse is true? Sure, but does that mean that an M16 fired at a maximum effective range of 600 meters would be 100 % more effective at 1 meter or less? It’s not proportionate in that sense to say that weapons have maximum effective range means they are inversely superior at shorter ranges. There will be energy lost over distance, but this doesn’t make those shots equivalent to the strength necessary to do the sort of damage you are insisting.
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12 hours ago, Yaccarus said:With 27 species, this is as close as I’ll get to releasing one quarter portion. Willpower 3 is complete!
I try to pretend the Jazz singers don’t exist... lol. I think the real willpower 3 candidates are those who can watch those two without losing their shi.t.
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4 minutes ago, Cifer said:1. It's always been a thing that you should do your calculations in order for your ship not to blow up. What this would do to the stuff that actually blocks you has rarely been explained - there are a few vague references to harmful hypermatter, but... well, after millenia of serving as the Republic's capital, Coruscant still exists. The odds of there being noone with both access to a large enough vessel and enough of a grudge to eradicate it seem rather low to me.
2. It is absolutely practical. As I noted somewhere else, a good tactic doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to beat the alternatives. What do you think are the costs of taking down the Supremacy and its surrounding vessels in regular combat? I'd guess somewhere along the lines of "a large fleet", assuming the Supremacy isn't extremely undergunned for its size. Sacrificing a single heavy cruiser is an absolute bargain (if you can afford it).
Maybe it was just Hera (and any non-Purgill-experts) who didn't know.
Not to throw my hat into one side of this dog and pony show, but think about orbital bombardments. An ISD has enough weapons to slag most planets and yet destruction on the scale of Taris in Legends is one of the only notable instances of orbital bombardment. There are many reasons that you might not want to do that but think about the potential ramifications for Star Wars storylines. In the new canon novel Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel, the author has Orson Krennic order the clones to fire from space on the Voort capital with devastating effect. The introduction of such elements then necessitates the introduction of counter-points to it. Why not slag Alderaan from space? It had a planetary shield so instead they blew up the whole planet. When we are dealing with space opera there is a certain give and take on these things but it’s usually easier to think of “easy solutions” as requiring unique circumstances so that they don’t apply in every case.
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6 hours ago, korjik said:If a ship hitting a ship at lightspeed would do so much damage, why wouldnt a turbolaser shot hitting a ship at lightspeed do so much damage also?
My point isnt that the ship would be destroyed before it went to lightspeed, but when it went to lightspeed.
So your thought is that the ships firing at it who have to struggle to hit it by aiming and leading their target etc, will be able to hit a target moving at light speed? The ship will have disappeared before the gunner has time to think about pressing the button.
There is no evidence that the closer one gets to a target the stronger their blasts, nor, is there any tangible proof that a fleet battle which would take considerable amounts of time to break through fully shielded and armoured heavy cruisers would be sped up by their approach. When we see ships being destroyed in film, we are seeing either overwhelming concentration of fire from many vessels, or, the end of a protracted battle where shields and armour have been reduced significantly.
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On 2018-01-05 at 6:17 PM, Arrakus said:FWIW, another option is to have a smaller ship (sil 3) that is apart of the larger ship (either via hanger or magnetic locks). That way the pilot can jump into their personal star fighter and whoop some tail. With the larger ships, they pretty much drive themselves. Nothing is lost by having an NPC droid pilot the ship.
Both the Ghost and Serenity had shuttles that dock in it. So should fit thematically with what you are trying to do.
I personally like the C-ROC and HWK-290 combo. But that is just me.
ARC fighter would be hella cool for this.
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2 hours ago, korjik said:Had the First Order guys realized what was happening in time, they would have kept the ram from happening. I imagine hitting a bunch of turbolaser blasts before hitting the target ship would make the ram tactic a failure.
While I appreciate that you have hedged your comment you also made a bit of a bold claim that probably wouldn’t hold water. I’m not trying to contest your feeling that we don’t know enough to comment on the hyperspace ram nonsense, and I agree, but as we see in the giant fleet battles, those capital ships can pummel one another for some time. Simply training your guns at an approaching ship isn’t enough to wipe it out than when it was sitting still for the same time period. The shields and hull are still every bit as armoured and protected. So no, likely a ship as massive and powerful as a Mon Cal could likely close to ramming distance without being destroyed outright. *albeit assuming we aren’t seeing a massively overpowering fleet against it like TLJ.* The comment in the movie is more to assuage concerns that they could have stopped it had Snookship + 30 odd SD’s opened up at once.
So while I’m not arguing that there is or isn’t a hyperspace ram, I would contend that merely claiming the firepower of the opposing ship is enough isn’t exactly true in all but the most extreme disadvantageous situations.
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40 minutes ago, Ahrimon said:IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that this whole project falls under fair use.
The art doesn’t. I moonlight as a DMCA agent for a digital artist and have a masters in Library and Information Science where I specialized in copyright and Fair Dealing provisions, granted from a Canadian perspective (which is more conducive to fair use provisions than the US). If he wants to take the art without asking permission than all an artist need do is to contact him and ask that the art be removed using a standard DMCA format. Which is fine for what this is. I imagine that only one or two of the artists’ would see this and care, at which point there is plenty of other art that exists, or, someone can come forward and offer their skills to insert a new piece in its place. I would still recommend that you either cite the source at the end, or that you reach out to the artist or both. But nothing compels him to do so outright. The DMCA is designed to allow for a means of remedying the issue outside of legal proceedings, and, a standard for proving in effect that the person contacting you actually owns the copyright to the piece of art.
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26 minutes ago, Kallabecca said:I get that this is a personal project, but I don't see any source attribution for the images you've used and you've now made it public. So, unless all those images were explicitly in the public domain, then you're probably violating someone's copyright.
This came up with the last user who created their version of the USM and threw in images from DeviantArt and other places without getting permission. They'd even ended up using art that the artist's had said "No" to being included in the USM (which is why they weren't in the USM).
Like with any copyright violation, the DMCA requires the copyright holder to contact the individual to request the change. As long as the creator is willing to do so, he is perfectly legal in what he has done. It might be more expedient and wiser to ask permission first, but it is not required.
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1 hour ago, DurosSpacer said:You always seem to have people who claim to know what ‘Canon’ is. Then, some who claim that it’s clearly defined. The truth is that a lot of it is there to explain what happened in the movies and fill in gaps. Some prefer their comics, some prefer the novels, some cartoons, and some stick to *just* the movies. All-in-all, it’s never going to be a stable, constant thing. It'll change with each successive movie and people will go off in a panic to explain away why the new movie didn't jive with *existing* *canon*. Meh.... Just go with whatever “floats your boat”, as my old boss used to say.
The First Order
Who says the First Order is doing any of this in secret? What did the Empire mess up so badly? They ran things okay so long as you obeyed their rules. The corruption of the Senate messed things up worse, IMO. The Empire dealt with piracy and crime lords quite well.
The New Republic
I don’t see where the New Republic even existed. The Emperor died. Remnants of the Empire remained. The New Order sprang up not long after. Where does the NR come in??? It never got off the ground. Just a dream that never came to be. Apparently, the BIG rebellion had little to no effect.
The Resistance
We’re being led to believe that a handful of people in a space freighter will spark a rebellion and overthrow a galactic empire. That Luke Skywalker destroying the Death Star wasn’t enough, but a nearly anonymous illusionary delaying action was “heroic” and his absence from the galaxy from this point on will do wonders? SO….the LIVE Skywalker didn’t work, but a missing, dead, illusionary Skywalker will work??? HUH???
The New Republic existed longer than the Empire did by the time of TFA. Why don’t they seem to have a presence in your mind? Because they were given a firework laded send off in the first film of the trilogy with some bright lights in the sky.
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On 2017-12-21 at 3:03 PM, StarkJunior said:Yeah, I've heard none of these complaints anywhere else except this thread, so. I really don't think it's that big of a problem for anyone except people who need to know every little detail about everything.
These complaints have been featured in forums, blog posts, news stories and by a huge segment of the fan base. Saying you haven’t heard them doesn’t make them have any less resonance with the very large group that does. And remember, for every detractor speaking in this forum that you so casually dismiss, there are readers like myself who haven’t commented and yet find many of those points fairly accurate.
Many of the fans I know are split rather evenly between accepting the new stories because they are new and it’s always good to have something new vs. fans who have completely disavowed these movies as ever existing and have sworn never to make the mistake of seeing one again.
In speaking to my brother, who is in the latter group, I am always amazed by the outright anger the new setting brings forth. I for one don’t get angry, and plan on watching the new movies and reading the new books, but even then I pick and choose the things I like and don’t, as opposed to universally having enjoyed everything that had previously been canon and whole deaths of the EU.
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29 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:Once I deal with the editting, I’ll ask for requests so I can create a complete list of who I should add. Sith is already on that list, and I have now added Miraluka and Cathar. As for the rest of the list, we’ll talk once the rest of the guide is out there. (Side note: fingers crossed I can get Cunning 3 out to you guys tonight)
I’m crossing fingers, toes and my wife’s.
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My main SWRPG character at the moment is ‘Ferrous’ a Chief Rigger of the Corellian Engineering Corporation and a Red Verpine. (Like lobsters, sometimes a genetic defect can result in red coloration) (Art by Will Nunes)
My brothers character, Vinasa, a Jedi who has recently awoken from 2,000 years in cryo-sleep. She has returned to the galaxy to hunt down her ancient enemy, a Sith named Malefax whose spirit was destined to return. Before she took her nap she left a small cult behind to maintain a watch for the return of the Sith and awaken her when she was needed. The small group developed into a secret social club that forgot its true purpose in time. Now, as she awakens, the galaxy has forgotten the fear of Malefax except for a small group of descendants from those she once saved.
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36 minutes ago, whafrog said:My comment was only in reaction to you playing board cop.
If you truly believe that then you have been the one to misunderstand me but as the comment was designed to end pointless arguments instead of create them, I will leave you to your beliefs.
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Just now, Khazadune said:Here is the link, this is not my work, I paid to have this commission done.
That is Celinas Vijarr, my Mirialian Mechanic who grew up on Coruscant’s lower levels until finding herself on the wrong side of the Dead Slugs swoop gang for the botched recovery of an ancient droid. (Long story)
On the run from the authorities for entering restricted areas, and with a small bounty on her head, she approaches a Miraluka Crime Boss known as the Master at his Sullustan restaurant. The unstable Master uses the force to smash through her meagre mental defenses leaving her feeling violated and betrayed. In his mind probe he ascertains the value of the droid and sends her back out to recover the droid, now with a more powerful adversary in someone she thought a friend.
Her story has had its ups and downs, she is a strong character but faces increadible challenges and doesn’t always come out okay.
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Here is the link, this is not my work, I paid to have this commission done.
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I tried every way to post an image but seems like anything I do it’s too large, I’ll try and see if I can’t find somewhere to host it. This is really a drag, how do others post?
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4 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:Sure. And it is as well only an assumption that it breaks canon either. So what are we discussing here?
Besides, the other dimension part and being save from collisions seems to be untrue, because purgil cross into hyperlanes and cause collisions. That is canon.
Hypermatter is super dangerous on top, so spreading it over an planet ... let's say by colliding with it's mass shadow with a cruiser will kill most life on a planet, it's orbit and near space around it just fine. That is also canon.Which makes TLJ not breaking canon, but actually using long established facts from canon and just using it.
I hadn’t thought about the purgill, but that’s a good point. I’ll have to see what sort of intersection the two may have and what that might mean for it.
To paraphrase a wise little green man, “Truly wonderous, the mind of a fan is.”
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12 minutes ago, Shlambate said:A new book would have been nice. But I guess this new article shows they haven't been pressed into service on the Spice Mines of Kessel by Darth Mickey.
Lol nice.
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4 hours ago, whafrog said:Is this something you can't do on your own? Or do you need to tell everyone else what to do?
I’m sorry you feel that way. I was trying to defuse a situation before people who might otherwise be friends say things that cause them to stop enjoying content that we are all here, obstensibly, to do. My suggestion, was intended as such, an option. I find that in online settings it’s easy to speak tough but harder to be kind.
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There’s a lot of emotions raging, so I recommend everyone just unfollow the thread and let it go. There will always be differences of opinions. I think this thread and the other have shown that for every person that likes the movie a ton, there is someone who doesn’t, and that’s okay... to each their own. We all share a similar interest in this game and what it brings, so let’s turn back to those aspects that bring us here to discuss our fun adventure in this amazing universe.
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2 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:No, there's reasonable conclusions drawn from logical reasoning, and then there's just assumptions pulled out of the ***.
If ships were able to collide with things while travelling at hyperspace speed, then those collisions would be happening all the time in the universe. It would be pure chaos and mayhem on larger worlds like Coruscant.
Therefore, the conclusion is that while travelling at hyperspace speed, ships don't collide with other ships because they're not actually physically there. (Something further explained in non-movie books, but a reasonable assumption none the less).
Some things you can conclude without having to see it happen in the movies.
For example, we never see anyone taking a dump in the movies, but it's a reasonable assumption that humans in the movies still poop.
Furthermore, there would be no reason what so ever for her to close distance between her ship and their ships (increasing the risk of them shooting her into smithereens before she gets there) if she didn't have to be close to do that damage.
She would just have to turn around and immediately activate the hyperdrive, which she doesn't.
Like I said, there's a difference between making a reasonable assumption based on in-movie actions and already established facts, and just pulling an assumption from your *** (like "I can use a pineapple to destroy a planet")
EDIT: And it really isn't an assumption since the mechanics of hyperspace flight are explained in detail in canonic material outside of the movies, meaning we don't have to assume anything.I said your assumption was that you could only hit them while sufficiently close. If we assume your other thoughts hold true, then that would mean you actually have TWO options, when building to join hyperspace and when exiting, as the exit velocity would also offer a window of .999 light speed.
Again though, we can’t assume that these are the truth no matter how “logical” it may appear.
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32 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:Otherwise you'd have ship explosions all over the place constantly from ships travelling at hyperspeed velocity.
Also, she turned around and (for quite a bit of time) closed distance to the enemy ships... why risk that if you didn't have to be close in the first place?
Hyperspace =/= lightspeed.
From the CANON section of Wookieepedia: "Hyperspace was an alternate dimension that could only be reached by traveling at or faster than the speed of light. Hyperdrives enabled starshipsto travel through hyperspace lanes across great distances, enabling travel and exploration throughout the galaxy."
So... alternate dimension means you'd have to impact that enemy ship (or planet) while accelerating to lightspeed (or hyperspeed), and not after you've entered hyperspace, because then you're in a different dimension.
EDIT: And before anyone suggests it, there must be practical reasons as to why ships can't just cruise around at .9999 of light speed and thus slamming into things that way... it seems that most ships in Star Wars travel at much slower speeds and use the hyperspace engines to make a short acceleration to beyond lightspeed and entering hyperspace.That still is an assumption. The movie is never explicit on it. If what you said were true you would just use the exit vector to slam into the target to achieve the same result.
We can’t make assumptions. The principle is never explained and so we are left with no clear understanding.
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Lol, so no, you have nothing. Just like I figured. Your so called reference was disproven in the first instance and you have yet to offer anything of substance. *grabs popcorn to see how he references the same defeated argument a fourth time*