I’ve played through the campaign and the expanded content post TLJ so I’m familiar with the story, but it still isn’t a clear cut timeline... but it’s something, obviously travel times are not shown but yeah, it’s a rough outline.

I understand the Jakku trap trap and the subsequent exodus, the build up in unknown regions and the child abductions/political intrigues in the senate (buying candidates etc). I’m aware of the Mon Mothma moronic disarmament policy and the then need for the “Resistance” what I guess I’m stuck on are; 1) When did the FO openly engage in hostilities for the first time where the universe became aware of them? (As far as I can tell that’s during TFA.) 2) What amount of time passes between TFA and TLJ? (It appears to begin at the same moment for Rey, but then this could have been outside the rest of the story progression as we don’t see her travel time etc... so, do we assume a few weeks? Do we assume months? Is this established?)

Generally it’s a discussion of in progress game elements, but you can riff on what elements you plan on using and why, I think others will likely have some takeaways from that. (Myself included)

Okay, I take back my criticism, if that is an accurate figure, well, okay. I just thought it was one of those offhand remarks. I still assume the FO does not have nearly the fleet size for that. They couldn’t have abducted that many children. That’s probably why the pre-emotive strike was so important to their plans. One thing I don’t get is the timeline, we know the FO came back to the universe with Starkiller Base, but when you read novels like “Canto Bight” they refer to the conflict as if it’s been raging for years. Even saying things that indicate a wealth of past associations. Yet we are also led to believe that only a few days pass between TFA and TLJ... has there ever been an official timeline of hostilities entered into canon?

That would make sense, that clears up my confusion. I always assumed I had, “missed my chance.” Thanks @Nytwyng, @EliasWindrider and @Absol197 for the clarifications.

I selfishly made a thread with that topic in mind, “share your story.” The hope is that as people share crazy adventures, character concepts and nemesi (is that the plural of nemesis? Nemeses?) that we can inspire one another. A Marcyverse and Giorgioverse breakdown would offer a nice discussion of how to take the game outside of traditional Star Wars stories.

That’s a nice twist, with the PCs in charge of the track. Between the Imps, the Hutt and whatever other criminal elements might be snooping around, they are gonna have to be on their toes to escape this one AND turn a profit! I really want to see podracing and swoop racing take a wider role in some of the FFG published works so there are more ideas. Keep us posted with how this one turns out! I love when there are a cluster of interests and the PCs are Center stage!

I’ve seen a couple people report having preordered it, I don’t know whether they are accurate or not, but it is worth finding out. I think one was in @Absol197 your thread for predictions, rather recently.

This is amazing! Taking the usual start and adding in enough novel elements to shake things up and give players the freedom to make it awesome. I will likely borrow details of this for something I have planned, that lunar movement disruption due to Rings... it’s too perfect to pass up! Love it!

Yeah it’s for sure possible, just wanted to point out the restriction to the OP so he was doing it RAW. I prefer the customizable Armor template as it gives a fair balance of HP and with my ungodly amounts of Advantage I can add in just about anything. (I’m averaging 15 Advantage and a Triumph... 550 Xip Mechanic/Scientist/Droid Tech with investments in eye for detail etc. 6 Int and 5 Mechanics and 5 Computers. Soon as I get the coin I’m getting a cybernetic to bring that to 7 Int. My party loves what a good crafter brings to the table!)

A real world connection to keep in mind.... bluebirds were what the soldiers called the Nursing Sisters during WWI because of their blue cloaks. The sight of a bluebird was seen as salvation, as the women worked to heal their wounds. Your eldest daughter as a force sensitive would be pretty amazing if she went the healer route. I love obscure references and little Easter eggs.

Again, I don’t believe they literally have millions of ships in the Empire, but even if they did/do, we were talking about the First Order, which does not. That said... planet killing weapons are not new to the saga known for its introduction with a planet killing weapon. The USE of such means is what is abhorrent to the galaxy. That’s why after Alderaan there is such a boost to the Rebellion, and, one would imagine, after TFA there would also be a surge in those who abhor the First Order. Many countries have Nukes, but the use of Nukes would probably lead to worldwide condemnation... if anyone was around to do so after. The points that I have made above too many times to re-iterate here still holds true. The clip you showed has someone heroically sacrifice themself. Obi Wan heroically sacrifices himself so that Luke and co. can get away. Fin tries to heroically sacrifice himself against the stupid battering ram bull. Rose’s sister heroically sacrifices herself to take out the Dreadnaught. On and on, the entire SW universe is replete with heroic sacrifices. TLJ wants to paint them as Pyrric... that’s another discussion for another point, but the fact that people continually do it and have the ability to hyperspace ram... that means we should see more of it, likely will see more of it... unless some argument can be made against its use. (Which I have also covered in previous posts) I think you mistake my discussion as some validation of tactics in use, when really it’s pointing to the logical conclusion of what is and has been done vs. What is permissible and likely to be done (when permissible). And again for the argument farther up the chain, for the millionth time, there is nothing in canon that prevents hyperspace impacts. In fact, it’s been established from the start that the reason you have to do such intense astrological checks is to prevent impacts... thus meaning that hyperspace ramming does not need to be outside hyperspace. You can disagree if you like, as you have, but it’s just what canon has established.

Reinforced clothing won’t work for vacuum sealed. It needs to be a fully enclosed like laminate Armor etc.

You know I don’t know. I preordered the three books but I can’t tell you if they actually charged me yet or not....

I doubt it, that’s the advantage of the preorder. They have had three books already sold for months. Now, it could be that the money from those three books was only enough to hold them over till now, but then they would just announce another book and print more money with preorders. Chances are it’s just a lull because they have a lot going on at once. Sucks for us, but they have a wealth of resources out there already, so we aren’t bereft.

Arkanian are in Disciples of Harmony, the Consular Sourcebook.

In the canon Star Wars Battlefront 2 from EA the main character has a miniature probe droid that folds up into a disc and mounts into her back like a backpack. It’s a ID 9 or something. I’m sure you can look up the details.

Amphibious Modification, pg 57 Special Modifications. When combined it gives you hours of air. I agree though, vacuum sealed should have just had this as mods rather than necessitating entire additional hard points being used. I have 6 hard Points on my Armor for my Engineer and he has vacuum sealed, amphibious, radiation shielding, thermal and cold weather at the moment.

I don’t think you know the meaning of literally.

So @Absol197 when can we reasonably expect the next benchmark for either new product details or the arrival of the on the boat products?

Yeah. I seriously began three engineers when this book came out. Two of the campaigns have run their course already and the last one is well along. I have not boycotted FFG but I am beginning to get rather disillusioned. The unreasonable length of time to get a product to market is the only thing I haven’t liked about this game.

She has to plot the course and turn around. If hyperspace had a range requirement it wouldn’t be hyperspace. Heroic sacrifice is not something an insurgency group has ever convinced its population to do? Clearly there are quite a few willing to die for their causes, and as for desperate, what would you refer to any instance of the rebels/resistance if not desperate? You are stuck on this as a planned and methodical course of action as opposed to something possible. Your argument has followed these three questions. First it’s a question of cost/benefit, Second it’s a question of scope/scale, third it’s a question of motivation. 1. One vs Many, simple math. 2. Smaller ship destroys largest ship in creation and fleet of others, simple physics. 3. The enemy that literally destroys whole worlds. Yeah, feeling like your sacrifice is probably most appropriate now. Seriously.

Your argument imagines some particular invented ship specifically for ramming. That’s not even required. Take your thought of conventional fleet warfare. If it’s 35 ships or so and all their fighters against the Supremacy and FO fleet... why can’t any one of those ships be used at any time? And why would this be less cost effective than say a straight up battle that will probably see most or all of your fleet destroyed? Because you can’t reuse the ramming ship? You can’t reuse the destroyed ship either. And we’ve seen it take more than a single ship to inflict the kind of Dmg that happens in TLJ. If it’s cost benefit you are analyzing, then it’s flat out wrong. A single A Wing striking the bridge of the Super Star Destroyer crippled that ship. A squadron of X Wings out of the battlegroup could jump at the FO all day long. Miss? Do it again. One ship for much more is a win. Plus, there is no evidence that you even need to enter conventional weapons range, in the movie she is only because she has to turn around and they are literally following on her tail. I still don’t know why I’m engaging in this argument as I find the whole thing a silly Deus Ex Machina plot device that was horrible in conception and which destroys the continuity of the universe as a whole (as currently envisioned). So yeah, this is my last post on this topic, it’s been talked to Death, but using the logic applied in your own argument, it makes little sense not to use this. TLDR: TLJ was poorly thought out and causes nearly irreconciable issues with continuity to the universe’s own internal logic.

That’s a misrepresentation of the cost/benefits of this strategy but I think you know that. I am loathe to discuss movie displayed combat scenes and call them “accurate” as they tend to exist on screen until it’s expedient for them not to... but I’ll go there for a second. In ROTJ we see a single A Wing slam into the bridge of a 16 km long SSD and that impact cripples the vessel. In TLJ a single Mon Cal slices through the largest ship ever created causing it to be cut in twain and presumably lost. (We see Phasma fall into a crevasse the size of a small spaceport filled with flames, and the entire main hangar completely in ruin.) That’s before we talk about the ISD’s behind it that also suffered severe damage. To inflict equivalent damage to a fleet of 30 capital ships and The Supremacy would have taken at least a dozen Capital Ships, with squadrons of fighters and hundreds of thousands of people... which would have all been lost in the process. Now, to win the battle you would be talking something in the order of 35-40 ships, probably 6 wings of fighters at least and almost a half million people for skeleton crews alone. So I’ll let you calculate the cost of one Mon Cal Cruiser and Holdo verses a fleet on the scale of those at Jakku or Endor to inflict the same damage. There is no way that a cost/benefit analysis could see these as remotely equivalent. Your turbolaser example fails to account for the chances that said weapon will actually accomplish the goal. Employing any of the many turbolasers on Holdo’s ship would not have been likely to take a single Imperial ship down. To effect the same results you would need fleets if batteries and the resulting shields, engines, hulls, communications, fighter screens, crews etc etc etc that make that possible.

I think he was merely controlling all outcomes. If CIS wins, he wins. If Republic wins, he wins. He only came on the Republic side when he was sure he had the win in the bag.