Hey sorry to respond so late it took forever to get my post approved it seems. I appreciate the information and the lengthy family games. I screen snapped it and will look into ALL of them.
I've ordered pathfinder card game instead (incredible how much all the little addons cost together $275 so better be @¥@¥in good), but I will most likely pick up Relic and to me it seems the expansion is a must if I want to get PVP. I'm sure there is some home rules or such of ways to PVP and allow to attack each other without being enemies so to speak ect.
I sat for literally 26 hours and youtubed MANY games and decided pathfinder card game looked the most fun (for me). But I want to pick up Relic for the family it's just unfortunate there is literally no playthroughs or in depth reviews of the expansion on YouTube. I've cleared out any videos Relic related lol. I found one where they were playing it, but not even explaining what they were doing or interacting so your watching a group of guys play a game that you can't even see.
It's almost as if this game went under the radar, which is a shame because it seems a lot better than Talisman is many ways. I'm guessing like you said the theme is a niche and like I said I'm not this warhammer crazy fan. I've played a lot of warhammer video games and such, but I doubt I'll really get the "lore." I think Space Hulk is related? I just picked that game up on PS4 lol. I just got into board games and it's all so new to me and refreshing (AND EXPENSIVE). So I'm doing lots of research and finding what I like because I love RPG Video games, but stuff like D&D is just way to much for me. Way to much dedication and creativity for me, plus none of my friends have any interest in board games. AND I really don't care to go searching for some group. Someday I'll try it, but for now looking for solo-3 player games (loving Mage Knight solo).
Only reason I want it is because it's like Talisman with additional perks (like the character leveling). It's almost like I would rather have Talisman, BUT with these rules PLUS the PVP. The generic traditional stuff in Talisman is easy to adapt to for friends and family, but we will see if my Mom can understand this haha.
I was playing Mage Knight and showing my brother and she said "Can I play?" And I said "Mom this isn't like Crazy 8s or monopoly it's difficult and not easy to explain" and she took big offense thinking I said she was to dumb lol. So I'm buying a game like this that seems rather easy to explain, but something I'd enjoy because I'm not into monopoly or that class level of board games. I'm seeking out more complex games and I wish I knew a name for what I mean.
Thanks again, take care.