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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from klatschi0212 in Minor Clan naming convention   
    Komainu, also called Shishi, which is the Chinese word for them, or Shisa because that's what people in Okinawa call them and they are sort of the Okinawa symbol and most Japanese seem happy to respect that and use their name for them, are really just lions.
    It was just that people in China who made the original statues and started the practice didn't really have proper examples of real lions to model the original statues after and so mostly resorted to using dog physiology to "fill in the gaps" and then that became even more true when the practice spread through Korea and Taiwain and Okinawa and ultimately Japan. The people making the statues just kept making them more-and-more dog like instead of lion-like-- it is like a big game of telephone as they are copies of copies of copies of copies and the artist kept trying to "fix" them by using what they thought was the most accurate model.
    All this is important to understand because within Rokugan there apparently are actual Lions. So if they still wanted the cultural practice of having their temples guarded by stone lions, they could make them a lot more lion-like than what was created in real life for the purpose.  There really is no reason they would resort to some lion-dog hybrid thing.
    Moreover, as there is a Lion Clan, it is generally agreed that if their name were to be expressed in Japanese and try to use Kanji, instead of "Lion" for which the "Japanese" word doesn't exist and they just borrow the English word, it would probably be expressed as the "Shishi Clan" much like the Unicorn would probably be best expressed as the "Kirin Clan" as there is no Japanese word for Unicorn.
     
    Having a Lion Clan school of temple guards (and making it clear that they are NOT for the Shinsei temples, a religion they resoundly reject and are guarded by the Seppun anyway, but for their own ancestor worship shrines and fortune shrines) would probably be a more appropriate use of this idea than a minor clan.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Victarion13 in Shame... Shame... Shame...   
    To be honest, this game's design is probably far more complicated than it should be and the way the company has decided to errata and restrict cards is maybe not the absolute best way possible (granted, I have seen worse). It really isn't terribly surprising that new players are getting tripped up like this and breaking so many rules accidentally. In fact, and given how difficult it can be to find opponents since our playerbase is so small and the fact that the restricted list is being updated constantly, I guess "new" would more or less extend over the majority of the playerbase.
    Not much we can really do about is besides just be as lenient as possible with one another. Which isn't always the easiest thing given the fundamentally competitive nature of the game. But, in the very least, we should all try to avoid becoming like the MtG players where the primary strategy for winning is to either cheat or constantly call the judge on the opponent for every pedantic thing you can imagine with the hopes the judge will accept one of those as an excuse to disqualify someone.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Saibot in Shame... Shame... Shame...   
    To be honest, this game's design is probably far more complicated than it should be and the way the company has decided to errata and restrict cards is maybe not the absolute best way possible (granted, I have seen worse). It really isn't terribly surprising that new players are getting tripped up like this and breaking so many rules accidentally. In fact, and given how difficult it can be to find opponents since our playerbase is so small and the fact that the restricted list is being updated constantly, I guess "new" would more or less extend over the majority of the playerbase.
    Not much we can really do about is besides just be as lenient as possible with one another. Which isn't always the easiest thing given the fundamentally competitive nature of the game. But, in the very least, we should all try to avoid becoming like the MtG players where the primary strategy for winning is to either cheat or constantly call the judge on the opponent for every pedantic thing you can imagine with the hopes the judge will accept one of those as an excuse to disqualify someone.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Doji Tori in Shame... Shame... Shame...   
    To be honest, this game's design is probably far more complicated than it should be and the way the company has decided to errata and restrict cards is maybe not the absolute best way possible (granted, I have seen worse). It really isn't terribly surprising that new players are getting tripped up like this and breaking so many rules accidentally. In fact, and given how difficult it can be to find opponents since our playerbase is so small and the fact that the restricted list is being updated constantly, I guess "new" would more or less extend over the majority of the playerbase.
    Not much we can really do about is besides just be as lenient as possible with one another. Which isn't always the easiest thing given the fundamentally competitive nature of the game. But, in the very least, we should all try to avoid becoming like the MtG players where the primary strategy for winning is to either cheat or constantly call the judge on the opponent for every pedantic thing you can imagine with the hopes the judge will accept one of those as an excuse to disqualify someone.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from HirumaShigure in Shame... Shame... Shame...   
    To be honest, this game's design is probably far more complicated than it should be and the way the company has decided to errata and restrict cards is maybe not the absolute best way possible (granted, I have seen worse). It really isn't terribly surprising that new players are getting tripped up like this and breaking so many rules accidentally. In fact, and given how difficult it can be to find opponents since our playerbase is so small and the fact that the restricted list is being updated constantly, I guess "new" would more or less extend over the majority of the playerbase.
    Not much we can really do about is besides just be as lenient as possible with one another. Which isn't always the easiest thing given the fundamentally competitive nature of the game. But, in the very least, we should all try to avoid becoming like the MtG players where the primary strategy for winning is to either cheat or constantly call the judge on the opponent for every pedantic thing you can imagine with the hopes the judge will accept one of those as an excuse to disqualify someone.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from AradonTemplar in Shame... Shame... Shame...   
    To be honest, this game's design is probably far more complicated than it should be and the way the company has decided to errata and restrict cards is maybe not the absolute best way possible (granted, I have seen worse). It really isn't terribly surprising that new players are getting tripped up like this and breaking so many rules accidentally. In fact, and given how difficult it can be to find opponents since our playerbase is so small and the fact that the restricted list is being updated constantly, I guess "new" would more or less extend over the majority of the playerbase.
    Not much we can really do about is besides just be as lenient as possible with one another. Which isn't always the easiest thing given the fundamentally competitive nature of the game. But, in the very least, we should all try to avoid becoming like the MtG players where the primary strategy for winning is to either cheat or constantly call the judge on the opponent for every pedantic thing you can imagine with the hopes the judge will accept one of those as an excuse to disqualify someone.
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to MirumotoOrashu in I'm disappointed with the wiki   
    Not go be that guy, but you could help as well by contributing, editing and adding pages.
    Now that I finally have a copy of Emerald Empire I should do so myself.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Magnus Grendel in The Possible Conclusion to the Inheritence Cycle   
    Schmoozie, I think you are putting WAY too much stock into everything being 100% exactly like the old story without any meaningful alterations and you haven't even accounted for the most basic things that are already quite different.
    Kachiko seems to be considerably older than Sotorii, even if she is ridiculously young to hold the station she is holding, and she isn't some sexpot whose title is "seductress" and whose every artwork shows her clothes falling off. Moreover, they have really underlined Sotorii's general youth and immaturity. By not being THE sex symbol of the whole setting, the entire impact of Sotorii demanding her is completely lost. The dynamic wouldn't make the least bit of sense now. Just because there was an Empress Kachiko in the old version in no way guarantees or even demands that the  new version be exactly the same.
    Toturi becoming "the Black Lion"? I really don't know that is remotely necessary. He is currently the legitimate Emerald Champion. And his personality seems to better reflect what we can glean as the character of Hantei Kami rather than Akodo Kami. It isn't difficult to imagine him being a rallying point for the Imperials should the succession go wrong-- whether that be because the Scorpions took over or because a prince went off the rails, killed the former Emperor and tried to claim the throne. And given that their members are scattered across the empire, I would expect any independent Imperial Family force to be heavily reliant on ronin and mercenary forces if the other clans aren't just going to lend them their forces. So that angle is already well set up without it being exactly necessary for things to be exactly as they were before.
    And certainly things that were ultimately detrimental to the game and had to be sloppily undone later, such as exiling the entire Scorpion Clan, that isn't likely to happen. While undoubtedly certain things in the setting are moving in a similar direction as the old story, I really suspect that the writers will intentionally avoid doing anything that is nearly as identical to the previous version as the things you suggested there. If just on the basic principle of the thing, that it would be silly to have a whole new story if we are all just going to tour through every one of the same ill-considered plot beats that happened the first time around.
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to Shiba Gunichi in The Possible Conclusion to the Inheritence Cycle   
    Also note, we're all so hung up on how Sotorii is fated to be Fu Leng's vessel... but what if he isn't? What if it's Daisetsu? What if Sotorii, awful as he is up to this point, has been gaslit explicitly to get him out of the way?
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Tonbo Karasu in The Possible Conclusion to the Inheritence Cycle   
    Schmoozie, I think you are putting WAY too much stock into everything being 100% exactly like the old story without any meaningful alterations and you haven't even accounted for the most basic things that are already quite different.
    Kachiko seems to be considerably older than Sotorii, even if she is ridiculously young to hold the station she is holding, and she isn't some sexpot whose title is "seductress" and whose every artwork shows her clothes falling off. Moreover, they have really underlined Sotorii's general youth and immaturity. By not being THE sex symbol of the whole setting, the entire impact of Sotorii demanding her is completely lost. The dynamic wouldn't make the least bit of sense now. Just because there was an Empress Kachiko in the old version in no way guarantees or even demands that the  new version be exactly the same.
    Toturi becoming "the Black Lion"? I really don't know that is remotely necessary. He is currently the legitimate Emerald Champion. And his personality seems to better reflect what we can glean as the character of Hantei Kami rather than Akodo Kami. It isn't difficult to imagine him being a rallying point for the Imperials should the succession go wrong-- whether that be because the Scorpions took over or because a prince went off the rails, killed the former Emperor and tried to claim the throne. And given that their members are scattered across the empire, I would expect any independent Imperial Family force to be heavily reliant on ronin and mercenary forces if the other clans aren't just going to lend them their forces. So that angle is already well set up without it being exactly necessary for things to be exactly as they were before.
    And certainly things that were ultimately detrimental to the game and had to be sloppily undone later, such as exiling the entire Scorpion Clan, that isn't likely to happen. While undoubtedly certain things in the setting are moving in a similar direction as the old story, I really suspect that the writers will intentionally avoid doing anything that is nearly as identical to the previous version as the things you suggested there. If just on the basic principle of the thing, that it would be silly to have a whole new story if we are all just going to tour through every one of the same ill-considered plot beats that happened the first time around.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from HirumaShigure in Wasp and Fox confirmed   
    Yes, that is what vassal means. Technically all the great clan daimyo are vassals to the emperor and all of the family daimyos are vassals to the Clan Champion and so far down the system.
    The issue is how the term "vassal family" was used in the previous incarnation and thus I have no better vocabulary to describe the distinction.
     
    For Clans, what should be most important is that they governor and manage the land. Whatever unique specializations and skills they might have, that generally seems to have arisen naturally from the nature of the land that they were assigned to. The Crab Clan was put on the outskirts right next to the Shadowlands and thus had to learn to cleanse corruption, build the best fortifications that could stand up to horde of oni and to just put aside some of the more superfluous flourishes that other clans might engage in to focus on what immediately contributes to survival. The Crane, on the other hand, were given lands next to the sea rich abundant in riches of both fish and rice, so much so that they basically feed the empire and set what is considered throughout the land the cultural menu. And as riches flowed in, they were able to buy their way around court, and absorb themselves in the art, fashion, painting, stories and other arts.
    So the clans' job was to manage particular lands and those lands had an affect on who they became generation after generation until become what they are now. Sure, it was stated that Hantei assigned them "roles", but that was so unnecessary and counter-intuitive that it really seemed more like folk-lore. Folklore that the Scorpion tell themselves so that they don't have to admit that the real reason they are hard-edged bastards that disregard all decency and respect is because "it's their duty", a highly dubious claim on its face as no good has ever arisen from Scorpion activities and the best they have ever accomplished is assisting in putting out the very fires their selfish and reckless abandoned causes, rather than the simple fact that they have the worst, most unproductive lands and if they tried to live like the Crane, they would all starve.
     
    Now, when it comes to individual families within a clan-- that is where we see less of a focus on "manage the land" and you start getting into "Our main family branch doesn't do X very well, why don't you specialize in X to compliment us?"
     
    So when it comes to minor clans...
    In the cases where we have "no one wanted to live there, these 'samurai' decided to set up there and are governing these lands, gathering the resources and delivering them as tax payments to the Emperor" then that's totally cool, that sounds  like a legitimate reason to have a minor clan. Some random group decided to set themselves up on some borderlands that were being ignored? Oh, a non-heir son of a Clan Champion ran away and he and a bunch of others set up on those islands out there and got the people who weren't even considered part of our empire to start working for the empire's behalf? A bunch of 'samurai' set up on the mountains outside of Crab claimed lands and have had the commoners of the area mining a ton of ore? Those all seem like cases where maybe a minor clan could arise, but I imagine that many of those families were not technically in the samurai caste when the social hierarchy was constituted, but probably they at least filled out their ranks with the leaders or best of the commoners they found there since it is extremely unlikely that a samurai with sufficient station within a Great Clan to have enough retainers to take over and settle lands outside of their clan's jurisdiction would ever either choose or be allowed to do so and bring all their vassals along.
    That's all fine and good.
     
    But things got wonky very, very quickly.
    First, the original origin for both the Dragonfly and the Wasp clans indicated that cross-clan marriages were something extraordinarily rare and inherently shameful and if anyone were to ever marry someone outside their own clan, both clans would basically seek to destroy them over this. So like-- every single time there was a cross-clan marriage, apparently a new minor clan would have to arise.
    Once the ideas for the setting were better solidified, that cross-clan marriages were actually quite common and normal and that in such marriages one of the two would give up their clan identity-- the entire origin for both the Wasp and the Dragonfly were rendered the complete antithesis of how the setting actually functioned.
    Nevermind the absolute silliness of the idea that the intra-clan conflict about both sides fighting who gets to wipe these guys out came to such a fever pitch that the Imperials decided to step and and resolve it by.... granting them a minor clan status. Because apparently that resolves the conflict in any way anyone would be satisfied with.
     
    And then there were those that were even worse...
    So, you see, there is this guy called Isawa who basically worked as a magistrate that hunted down blood-magic users. And so instead of remaining a proper Phoenix clan member and maybe opening a school in order to teach his techniques to other Phoenix.... lands were taken away from the Phoenix clan to award to him along to governor so that he could... specialize in hunting users of Blood Magic... because, you know, apparently having to suddenly start governing lands instead of either focusing on his cases or teaching others how to do it supposedly assists him in this?!!
    Or the ones that were outright jokes. The "Bee Clan" that was about fashion or the "Tanuki" who were assigned to investigate ghosts, things that those in Rokugan in fact know are real things, but their reports were taken as jokes.
    None of these were about them governing lands or them being shaped by the lands they govern. Some writer just randomly had an animal pop in their head, got a wonky idea about a special talent that seemed related to that animal and then said "Yeah, the Emperor made them a Minor Clan just so they could be assigned this animal that I thought would be cute as a mascot and then told them to do such-and-such that they are now the singular specialists in throughout the empire."
    The whole thing about being a Minor Clan though would be that, while you do answer to the Emperor, you are otherwise sovereign in your own lands just like the Great Clans are. You aren't directly positioned under someone else.
     
    But then you would get a wonky case like the "Kaeru" in the City of the Rich Frog. In that case, you had a group who rose to power within a neutral trade city, then paid the Emperor to grant them governorship of the city-- pretty much exactly what the "Boar Clan" did-- but they weren't called a "Minor Clan" because instead some writer got it into their head that there should be something called "Ronin Families" and decided that this was an ideal example of what one should be.
     
    Now, maybe it isn't the best possible term, but the other way to go-- the way many of the previous minor clans should be reinterpreted I feel-- is that there is a concept of "You get your own family name, but you aren't sovereign in the lands you occupy, some other family is between you and the Emperor."
    So often it seems that these are started by families to serve the members of their family with some function. So they would be one rank lower on the overall hierarchy scale.
    Emperor
    Clan Main Family
    Clan Sub Family
    Clan Vassal Family
    Of course, the odd thing about this is that many origin stories for these are that they are descendants of heroes of the family that they supposedly serve. And while I could see that maybe you would want to continue the legacy of such a person, it would be weird that their descendants would then be expected to work for and answer to members of their own family. But putting aside that oddity...
    We could see that the Isawa Chuda Snake Clan really would have made more sense to be an Isawa Vassal Family rather than a minor clan as having them be a minor clan did not coincide with their purpose for existing-- the lands they occupied had already been governed fine and they weren't supposed to be focused on governing or defending lands at all, their job was supposed to he to train magistrates to hunt down Bloodspeakers.
     
    Another perfect example of a "Minor clan" that doesn't feel like it should be a Clan, is the Tortoise. They don't have their own lands, or at least whatever little they might clan is stuck right up in there next to Castle Otomo and Castle Seppun and the Seppun controlled city and so forth. They exist entirely on fishing and trade. Now, obviously there is a reason one might not want exactly to refer to them as an "Imperial Family" due to the fact that they are kind of slimey and dirty customers and ought no carry the same distinction and respect as a Miya or Seppun or Otomo (then again, I don't know how much respect is really afforded to the random Otomo Census Clerk, the Seppun whose job is to guard a random Brotherhood Temple in the boondocks or the random Miya cartographer constantly working on the official imperial maps). However, they are definitely more a "family that works for the imperials" thing than a "sovereign clan administering this region" thing.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Brekekekiwi in New dynasty pack; For the Empire   
    That image of Sotorii is some sort of massive spoiler. I mean, technically he did cut his new swordsmanship teacher, but it read as a minor wound that wouldn't have left that much blood on his sword at all. Otherwise, by all indication, he has never successfully enough in a sword fight in order to cut anyone like that.
    So that feels like it is a scene from a story we haven't seen yet. And there is a pretty short list of people he might slice up. And that he still says "crown prince" even though he was specifically stated to no longer be so in the most recent stories also suggests a short list of targets. 
    And generally the artwork has been lagging well behind the fiction, so it is odd that they would spoil the outcome of the events the most recent fictions have been focused on like this.
    And beyond that, the indication in recent fiction has been that his stats wouldn't have been so high either.
    Anyway, I am not sure giving a +3 glory is a particularly good ability at this point in the game when it is so much easier to dishonor someone than honor someone, in fact the Crane exclusively have enough ways to honor cards to make use of it, and the Phoenix are the only clan that have the ability to weaponize glory directly-- and even that is only 1 or 2 event cards in their whole deck.
    Although he can use his ability on himself. So if you can win one battle with him, he'll be honored and then be a 7/6 and will be able to boost himself to a 10/9 using his ability. Couple him with one of the imperial cards that negate opponent's events so they can't send him home or destroy him using a card from hand and he'll be able to steam-roll stuff.
    Which is really far beyond what I would have expected from the character has he has been portrayed in the fiction so far.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from FriendofYoda in Returning (Rather Lost) Player   
    In addition to the above, there is also the Bushi Builder site.
    https://bushibuilder.com/
    Like FiveRings DB, people posts decks here. But you can also use the Stats function to see which cards are included in the majority of decks.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from HirumaShigure in New dynasty pack; For the Empire   
    I agree with these sentiments to an extent.
    The primary issue with this mechanic, as others identified, is that it allows one to replace a bowed character with a more powerful unbowed character. If it weren't for that singular issue then there really wouldn't be any power creep involved with paying extra fate to give a boost and a different ability to a card in a conflict.
    And it is a bit weird that Lion is the first card we see this mechanic on.
    But, that being said, as much as clans really pride themself on the particular image upheld by their most iconic family, I have also always felt that all clans likely have all sorts of tools at their disposal.
    I would think that there is not a single clan that is entirely without heavy infantry, cavalry, scouts, archers, assassins/saboteurs, diplomats, scholars, magistrates, governors, architects, artisans, etc., etc.
    It just happens that they are more iconic and have more clout in some clans than others. But each clan is functionally a self-sufficient nation within the overall empire and if it feels silly to say that an entire self-sufficient nation and its military absolutely would not have any individuals trained in a particular skillset, then somewhere within each clan must be someone who has that skillset. Even if it is not what the clan most celebrates, you got to figure that may have just fallen into that gap because they happened to be better at it than their peers and weren't as good at whatever the clan more favors as those peers.
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to DGLaderoute in Fiction Library   
    You may want to note that Hantei XXXVIII also goes by the name Jodan in "Children of the Empire Part 1". When I originally wrote this, I referred to him as "the Emperor", but Katrina pointed out that, since we were in his POV (inside his head) he probably wouldn't think of himself as "the Emperor".  Hantei Jodan was his name in the old lore, so we decided to stay with it.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Victarion13 in Deck Building Challenge - Imperial Deck   
    After the first two cycles, I wonder if there are enough cards to create a good Imperial Deck.
    I would like to hear ideas on how to fill this thing out.
    Here are the cards that the deck should contain.
    Clan: Any
    Stronghold: Any
    Role: Must be either Keeper or Seeker of Fire (due to restrictions on two of the required cards)
    Province
    Before the Throne
    Any other 4
    Attachments
    Icon of Favor
    Events
    Censure
    Way of the Chrysanthemum
    Characters
    Imperial Librarian
    Miya Mystic
    Miya Satoshi
    Otomo Courtier
    Seppun Guardsman
    Seppun Ishikawa
    Holdings
    The Imperial Palace (1 per deck)
    Imperial Storehouse
    Miwaku Kabe (1 per deck)
     
    In addition,  if possible must use...
    Crab: Karada District, Stoic Magistrate
    Crane: Chisei District, Kakita Yoshi, Silver Tongued Magistrate
    Dragon: Enigmatic Magistrate
    Lion: Hito District, Implacable Magistrate
    Phoenix: Haughty Magistrate, Kanjo District
    Scorpion: Bayushi Kachiko, Bayushi Yojiro, Cunning Magistrate
    Unicorn: Swift Magistrate
    All other cards are allowed to fill out the deck.
    What would be the best clan to run this deck from and what other cards would you use?
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Victarion13 in Mantis Theme Deck Suggestions   
    I would say the Mantis Clan would have more in common with Nagasaki, really. Or, if we were to say Rokugan relates to China, Taiwan.
    Nagasaki was considered a kind of wild place in Japan with lots of foreign influence that was known for trading with foreign nations and even adopting foreign religions even though both were outlawed.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Shadrack in Coiled Snake   
    Other than the fact that he allowed his anger to overwhelm all other senses, something plenty of samurai do often enough, he really wasn't really wrong. Well, not regarding that one narrow situation in which he found himself in at that moment.
    When he stated that he would be involved in something, which is something he had every right to do, he was not only refused but gravely insulted. And by the rules of Rokugan, he had no choice but to issue a duel.
    And instead of facing Sotorii himself even though he is the one who made the insult, he hid behind the superior skills of Dairu.
    Sotorii had been told all his life that if you do a duel, the person who is in the right will win. Not that whomever wins the duel is right because they win, but if they are in the right, as he was, then he would certainly win.
    He bought into the fundamental lies of Rokugani society and had the lies laid bare before him. It is why he snapped.
    In fact, I would think that quite a lot of samurai in Rokugan will have such idiotic lies that underpin their society laid bare to them at some point. Although probably most of them have it laid bare for them a lot sooner in life. They don't end up so naive, because they aren't so coddled.
    We have already seen in a previous story why his swordsmanship sucks. He gets the best swordsmen in the land as his teachers, but rather than correcting his technique or just flat out beating him in a spar so he can see how much farther he has to go to reach the level he wants to be at-- they just out and out let him win no matter how sloppy his technique is. People expect him to be psychic in order to read the other person's mind in order to realize they let him win? Or to even perceive that when his entire focus is on trying to hit them? Naturally that isn't going to be possible. In the very least he would need to know what it looks like when someone doesn't let you win in order to know what it looks like when someone does. And so he walks away from such scenarios having bested the best of the best in the empire, naturally he would think that he is more skillful than he really is.
    And that's probably not just swordsmanship. That probably extends to all teachers of all subjects who have always given him top marks even when he deserved failing marks. And without failure, he would never be able to learn from failure. And with nothing but success, he would ultimate put in less and less effort because people don't generally put more effort into things than necessary to achieve success.
    And that's why he fully bought into the lies of his society and never questioned him. Because all the lies he was told about the society ultimately favored him instead of challenged him, so why wouldn't he have bought in fully?
    And this is why he massively overestimates his own abilities, this is why he feels upon hearing that the Empire is falling apart, that he could just fix it if he had the opportunity because he has never been allowed to have the experience of facing a scenario that he could not win.
     
    What we are seeing here is actually quite well-written and is not possession of an evil god of Jigoku. It is a character whose failures all stem from simply being a human put in the particular situation he has been put with only a limited amount of life experience, none of which would have prepared him to act any differently than he currently is. And he is certainly not sociopathic like others have suggested-- this isn't Hantei the XVI at 6 years old killing his older brother and stuffing his body in a vase to become "heir" before he even knows what that is. It is a very human, though wildly deluded and misguided teen.
     
    And, really, "paragon of Bushido" is insulting a senior and then hiding behind your more dangerous buddy when they try to get back at you? Again, the favorable reading of Daisetsu by all the other characters is beyond ridiculous. But what virtues Daisetsu does have come from having Sotorii in his life. He has a better assessment of his own strengths and weaknesses because he has someone to measure himself against. Also, since all the lies underpining Rokugan society were already slanted against him, he had every reason to question them. In fact, it seems he questions them more than the average member of the noble caste does. Which means he can cut through those illusions and choose the more practical, rational and grounded choices (which is what I thought was typical of Imperial Family members anyway). But there is definitely an arrogance and darkness about him too, it is just more subtle than with Sotorii. And I guess side-by-side, those sinister aspects of Daisetsu can just be entirely overlooked.
     
    I think the one world-building question remaining in this though is the issue of how it is that not every generation of Hantei has turned out exactly like Sotorii if the way he has been treated is typical. As long as one is never challenged, always told one is perfect and wins at everything without any effort, they are never going to simply wake up one day and instantly be a more humble, polite, thoughtful and considerate person. They will retain the temperament of a spoiled toddler until the day they die should that never be changed.
    I would think the answer in most generations would be that the Hantei heir would usually be surrounded by a cadre of Otomo, Miya and Seppun who would be free, if not outright encouraged, to best the heir at whatever subjects they happen to be best at. So there would always be competition for the prince and he would always have to strive to be better. And when he ascended to the throne, all his childhood buddies/rivals could take positions as his ministers, generals and champions at whatever they happened to be better than the Emperor at in order to act on his behalf in those capacities. That is how it would typically work in a society such as Rokugan.
    And if such a thing was typical, and nothing has outright said it isn't what happened for the majority of the other 36 generations of Hantei heirs we haven't seen, then it gets back to the point I made in my comment on the last story-- why exactly are Daisetsu and Sotorii looking for validation from the Scorpion heir rather than being surrounded by a gang of kids from the "Imperial Clan"? What exactly made this particular generation such the exception that no one else in the Imperial Families sent their kids to go train, study and socialize with the princes? We know they are followed about by adult Seppun, but nothing has been said about those their own age. Because that really seems to be the key missing element that would have prevent the situation from turning out the way it has.
    Maybe it has to do with this empress who was mentioned once and has never been seen or mentioned again? Maybe she had some grudge against the Imperial Families that meant she used what influence she has to keep all the ones who son's own age far away from her precious kids? Maybe she made not-so-subtle threats against any teacher or appointee who might ever think to fail or discipline her kids? Maybe she is even part of the whole Kolat conspiracy actively working to take down the Imperial system, having been drawn into it by the Emerald Champion?
     
    The lack of any mention of the boys mother is quite odd. Because Sotorii and Daisetsu both exhibit the kind of personalities you get from when you have a helicopter mother who constantly praises her kid and refuses to allow anything outside of her personal influence to ever reach or affect them.
    I really wonder how much of the ideas about the characters the writers are leaving off the page here. Because what is on the page reads pretty genuine. And that hasn't always been true of L5R characters who are often 2-dimensional or simply never put into situations where more aspects of their personality or psychology can be explored. In fact, historically within this setting we have had characters whose actions and motivations have simply not even tracked from story to story.
     
    Best thing that could happen to Daisetsu would be to take almost all rank from him, make him a magistrate or some other basic task that means he actually has to face real challenges and keep busy and has to take care of himself. And maybe assign a few people to him who don't have to obey him or be gentle with him, but are ultimately tasked with keeping him alive and stopping him from committing criminal acts.
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Tonbo Karasu in Coiled Snake   
    Other than the fact that he allowed his anger to overwhelm all other senses, something plenty of samurai do often enough, he really wasn't really wrong. Well, not regarding that one narrow situation in which he found himself in at that moment.
    When he stated that he would be involved in something, which is something he had every right to do, he was not only refused but gravely insulted. And by the rules of Rokugan, he had no choice but to issue a duel.
    And instead of facing Sotorii himself even though he is the one who made the insult, he hid behind the superior skills of Dairu.
    Sotorii had been told all his life that if you do a duel, the person who is in the right will win. Not that whomever wins the duel is right because they win, but if they are in the right, as he was, then he would certainly win.
    He bought into the fundamental lies of Rokugani society and had the lies laid bare before him. It is why he snapped.
    In fact, I would think that quite a lot of samurai in Rokugan will have such idiotic lies that underpin their society laid bare to them at some point. Although probably most of them have it laid bare for them a lot sooner in life. They don't end up so naive, because they aren't so coddled.
    We have already seen in a previous story why his swordsmanship sucks. He gets the best swordsmen in the land as his teachers, but rather than correcting his technique or just flat out beating him in a spar so he can see how much farther he has to go to reach the level he wants to be at-- they just out and out let him win no matter how sloppy his technique is. People expect him to be psychic in order to read the other person's mind in order to realize they let him win? Or to even perceive that when his entire focus is on trying to hit them? Naturally that isn't going to be possible. In the very least he would need to know what it looks like when someone doesn't let you win in order to know what it looks like when someone does. And so he walks away from such scenarios having bested the best of the best in the empire, naturally he would think that he is more skillful than he really is.
    And that's probably not just swordsmanship. That probably extends to all teachers of all subjects who have always given him top marks even when he deserved failing marks. And without failure, he would never be able to learn from failure. And with nothing but success, he would ultimate put in less and less effort because people don't generally put more effort into things than necessary to achieve success.
    And that's why he fully bought into the lies of his society and never questioned him. Because all the lies he was told about the society ultimately favored him instead of challenged him, so why wouldn't he have bought in fully?
    And this is why he massively overestimates his own abilities, this is why he feels upon hearing that the Empire is falling apart, that he could just fix it if he had the opportunity because he has never been allowed to have the experience of facing a scenario that he could not win.
     
    What we are seeing here is actually quite well-written and is not possession of an evil god of Jigoku. It is a character whose failures all stem from simply being a human put in the particular situation he has been put with only a limited amount of life experience, none of which would have prepared him to act any differently than he currently is. And he is certainly not sociopathic like others have suggested-- this isn't Hantei the XVI at 6 years old killing his older brother and stuffing his body in a vase to become "heir" before he even knows what that is. It is a very human, though wildly deluded and misguided teen.
     
    And, really, "paragon of Bushido" is insulting a senior and then hiding behind your more dangerous buddy when they try to get back at you? Again, the favorable reading of Daisetsu by all the other characters is beyond ridiculous. But what virtues Daisetsu does have come from having Sotorii in his life. He has a better assessment of his own strengths and weaknesses because he has someone to measure himself against. Also, since all the lies underpining Rokugan society were already slanted against him, he had every reason to question them. In fact, it seems he questions them more than the average member of the noble caste does. Which means he can cut through those illusions and choose the more practical, rational and grounded choices (which is what I thought was typical of Imperial Family members anyway). But there is definitely an arrogance and darkness about him too, it is just more subtle than with Sotorii. And I guess side-by-side, those sinister aspects of Daisetsu can just be entirely overlooked.
     
    I think the one world-building question remaining in this though is the issue of how it is that not every generation of Hantei has turned out exactly like Sotorii if the way he has been treated is typical. As long as one is never challenged, always told one is perfect and wins at everything without any effort, they are never going to simply wake up one day and instantly be a more humble, polite, thoughtful and considerate person. They will retain the temperament of a spoiled toddler until the day they die should that never be changed.
    I would think the answer in most generations would be that the Hantei heir would usually be surrounded by a cadre of Otomo, Miya and Seppun who would be free, if not outright encouraged, to best the heir at whatever subjects they happen to be best at. So there would always be competition for the prince and he would always have to strive to be better. And when he ascended to the throne, all his childhood buddies/rivals could take positions as his ministers, generals and champions at whatever they happened to be better than the Emperor at in order to act on his behalf in those capacities. That is how it would typically work in a society such as Rokugan.
    And if such a thing was typical, and nothing has outright said it isn't what happened for the majority of the other 36 generations of Hantei heirs we haven't seen, then it gets back to the point I made in my comment on the last story-- why exactly are Daisetsu and Sotorii looking for validation from the Scorpion heir rather than being surrounded by a gang of kids from the "Imperial Clan"? What exactly made this particular generation such the exception that no one else in the Imperial Families sent their kids to go train, study and socialize with the princes? We know they are followed about by adult Seppun, but nothing has been said about those their own age. Because that really seems to be the key missing element that would have prevent the situation from turning out the way it has.
    Maybe it has to do with this empress who was mentioned once and has never been seen or mentioned again? Maybe she had some grudge against the Imperial Families that meant she used what influence she has to keep all the ones who son's own age far away from her precious kids? Maybe she made not-so-subtle threats against any teacher or appointee who might ever think to fail or discipline her kids? Maybe she is even part of the whole Kolat conspiracy actively working to take down the Imperial system, having been drawn into it by the Emerald Champion?
     
    The lack of any mention of the boys mother is quite odd. Because Sotorii and Daisetsu both exhibit the kind of personalities you get from when you have a helicopter mother who constantly praises her kid and refuses to allow anything outside of her personal influence to ever reach or affect them.
    I really wonder how much of the ideas about the characters the writers are leaving off the page here. Because what is on the page reads pretty genuine. And that hasn't always been true of L5R characters who are often 2-dimensional or simply never put into situations where more aspects of their personality or psychology can be explored. In fact, historically within this setting we have had characters whose actions and motivations have simply not even tracked from story to story.
     
    Best thing that could happen to Daisetsu would be to take almost all rank from him, make him a magistrate or some other basic task that means he actually has to face real challenges and keep busy and has to take care of himself. And maybe assign a few people to him who don't have to obey him or be gentle with him, but are ultimately tasked with keeping him alive and stopping him from committing criminal acts.
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to P'an Ku in Fanmade cards while we speculate   
    Miya Herald
    3 fate neutral character
    Calvary, Courtier, Imperial, Scout
    2/2
    1 glory
    Action: Discard a card - Move this character into the conflict and draw a card.
     
    Minor Clan Advocate
    1 Fate neutral Character
    Mantis Clan, Courtier
    1/1
    1 glory
    Reaction: After transferring exactly one honor during honor bids - gain one honor.
     
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to Tonbo Karasu in Fanmade cards while we speculate   
    For @Suzume Chikahisa
    Unyielding Seppun
    2 Fate. 2 Military. 1 Political. 2 Glory
    Bushi. Imperial.
    Interrupt: When the effects of an event targetting an Imperial card you control would initiate, put this character into play - cancel those effects.
    "...the guard just stood his ground, an impassive wall of determination and armor."
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from LordBlunt in 'New' Official Map   
    Here is a quickly cobbled together image of where I understand the various clan boundaries to be based on previous incarnations and using natural landmarks to mark out the boundaries. I am sure the boundaries are not 100% correct.
    After all, first-- the boundaries are kind of understood to be kind of murky to begin with and don't completely run up against one another neatly like this. And, in fact there are some minor clans that live between some of these clans and this doesn't account for any of that. So, really, none of these territories are as big as they look when displayed like this.
    The area with the 5 rings isn't claimed by any clan as far as I understand, although I know there are a number of minor clans that live over there, but that really seems to be kind of unclaimed wild there, such a large area didn't seem to be accounted for any previous version of the map I could find. This is mainly because the Shinomen forest here seems to be a wildly different shape than in previous versions of the map.
    The Spider Clan symbol is just the Shadowlands.

    So while I am sure there will be plenty of quibbles about how this isn't 100% accurate and is thus "totally wrong" because it "robs" one person's favorite clan or another as though 10% mistake negates the other 90%...
    But, if you want to generally know where the different clans are located, it is at least a slight upgrade over the original map.
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to BayushiFugu in Fanmade cards while we speculate   
    Childhood friendship
    1 cost neutral conflict card
    +0/+0
    Attachment
    Attach to a character you control. When you attach this card, choose a character an opponent has in play.
    Forced Reaction: If attached character participates in a conflict with the opposing character chosen - dishonor both characters and lose 2 Honor. 
    "You said we would be friends forever"
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    TheHobgoblyn reacted to sndwurks in Children of the Empire Spoilers   
    My thoughts on the previews:
    Overall - YES! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AT LONG LAST, THE IMPERIAL DECK IS MINE! MINE! HAHAHAHAHA!
    Oh, wait, you wanted more? Oh, okay.
    Hantei XXXVIII - Big Daddy Hantei himself. And you can run more than 1x of him in your deck (as "Mythic" is just flavor text). So, let's look at that stat block. Huh. Okay. But I DO like that first line. No Attachments. So. Tasty. And so what if your opponent can make you discard him if they get the Imperial Favor. Other than that one Scorpion, this should NEVER HAPPEN if you have him on the board. Seriously. Four Fate this guy, and watch as your opponent just rolls over you for paying 10 Fate for a very glorious speed bump. On the bright side, he has an awesome Action, and an Interrupt that just... works. I do not know if this will be a card that sees play outside of a wacky theme deck and maybe Shiro Shinjo, but hey. I like it.
    Humble Magistrate - Okay, I like your text. But a 2M/2P/2G for 3 Fate for a blanket, limited shut down is not anything to write home about.
    Righteous Magistrate - I am so very happy to see the Scorpion Clan have enlisted the aid of the Imperial Families to effectively turn off the Air Ring on the defense. And Banzai. And Assassinate. And Unleash the Djinn. Other than that, I like this guy a lot more than Humble.
    Unveiled Destiny - NB4 "2 Fate Attachments are useless!" But seriously. This is probably unplayable because of its Fate cost. A 0 Fate +0M / +0P Attachment that did the same MIGHT have seen play. This is just bad.
    Defend Your Honor - Oh. Oh my. Is this a counter-Event that the Unicorn, Crab, and Lion could theoretically run? And the Dragon are just going to run because they can? And is essentially ANOTHER Way of the Crane for the Kyuden Kakita deck, which has the potential to shut down an Event? This is solidly good... and one that adds incentive to running - Mil characters, since they cannot participate in a Mil duel, and thus this card cannot be played because there are insufficient targets.
    Overall winner? DEFINITELY the Keepers. Both of the Seeker cards in this are substandard. The real losers? The Support Of Roles.
    Wait, wait, there's a Mantis in this preview? Where? Oh, yeah...
    Aspiring Challenger - Well. Uh. Good for you, Mantis Clan. This certainly is a card. And is practically worthless, as it is a duel you never want to lose, but to get use out of the Composure, you have to already be winning?
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    TheHobgoblyn got a reaction from Brekekekiwi in Children of the Empire Spoilers   
    1 more character and 1 more holding.
    So, we'll be able to make my full Imperial Families dynasty deck.  Will still have to play out of some clan stronghold and use that clan's conflict cards, for the most part, but the dynasty side is now fully covered.
    Now, it seems like the cards on that dynasty side weren't designed with much synergy and they all seem to have a flat -1 across the stats compared to any faction-specific card, so it won't be able to be successful, but it will exist in the very least.
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