I love this solution.

funny you say that, i was just saying the other day that if a couple people are inclined enough to really sit down and play. this idea can last for weeks of game play they start with rebellion, when a fleet battle happens: rather than using the dice to decide, they move to a game of armada to decide the fate. and in armada, when squadrons engage each other, they use X wing games to decide their fate. and for any ground invasions yo use imperial assault to decide the fate that single game of rebellion could take months to finish.. but man, how epic would that be? Rebellion was one of my favorite Star Wars titles. It ranks up there with X-Wing vs TIE Fighter and Jedi Knight. It could have benefited with some graphic updating, but it was a great concept with lots of replay ability due to the randomness of resources of most planets from game to game. My friend and I played almost nightly on on crossover-connected laptops during a 6 month Eastern pacific deployment. So I too have thought about having a game that features IA and X-Wing or Armada working in tandem.

Much as I am adverse to a Jabba's Palace expansion, I am far more adverse to Dark Empire! Now don't get me wrong, I by no means hate Legends. I think I would take the twenty years between 3 and 4 over Rebels (I haven't seen season 2 which I am told is good.)! But there were some exceptions. In my opinion the two comics that best embodied the worst of Legends are Ewoks and Dark Empire. Heck I even preferred the Marvel comics to those! Ewoks was STUPID. Dark Empire had some of the worst coloring I have ever seen in a comic! And the story was pure garbage: Emperor lives on in effeminate naked clones. He wants to possess Leia's unborn child. Boba lives and hunts Han in Slave II (really?). Han and Chewie encounter some weird floating ball guy who tampers with the Falcon. Luke pretends to go to the darkside. I could go on! In short Disney was right in how they went about with the new EU. the good stuff from the old EU can come back, but junk like the Yuzzun Vong and Dark Empire are gone (for now, and should stay that way)! I pretty much agree with everything you said. However, and I know I'm in the minority here. Disney honestly isn't proving to be much better. Kylo Ren and Snoke are horrible characters. The story is nostalgia powered and strip away the Star Wars aspect and honestly it doesn't hold up well on its own.

I ignore that nonsense. I know it is house rules. The idea that supply cards can't be traded is silly prima facie. As the poster above said. R2 launched Luke's lightsaber to him. As long as characters are adjacent, I'll allow trading of supply cards without it even being an action. I consider it part of movement.

I think Kashyyyk would be great. The tiles can double as Endor too, since Ewoks were originally going to be Wookiees. Also, the Shadowlands gives you a chance for some exotic plant depictions and an excuse to include another dangerous beast like the Terentatek, which has a history of being hunted by, or feasting on Force Users.

Good vids. I enjoyed them.

The titanium speeder looks small next to the WotC figure, or the WotC figure looks small next to speeder? The speeder looks ridiculously small. I am wondering whether I should have gone for the Disney die cast model instead. If anyone has it, and has an opinion on whether it would match the IA / WotC figures, what do they feel? Would love to know. You don't want to use the WoTC speeder? Is it because it has Obi Wan and Luke in it?

I wanted it to stay around 3-4 spaces, just like Bossk's indiscriminate fire, or a grenade.

If I were to make Gungans I wouldn't make them as powerful as Royal Guards. It is sad how Stormtroopers, who were supposed to be elite infantry have become nothing but the worst kind of serial-television disposable mooks. I never liked the battle on Naboo, because it was George admittedly was trying to re-enact War and Peace. That being said the Gungans relied on their shield generators to bring an enemy in close so they could basically hurl AOE devices at them. If I were going to duplicate them I would make them shield bearing grenadiers who benefit from staying close to each other. Something like this I'm not very good assessing cost, but it would be 3 units. Trooper Probably 4 health. (I think 7 is a bit much for an individual Gungan) 4 speed. +1 block (represents the shield) ; ~ +1 evade (represents their dexterity); ~ +1 accuracy; ~ +1 (damage) Abilities: I would go with Sentinel ability from the Royal Guard. Since they have a hand held deflector shield. Booma: roll a normal attack. If the result equals 1 or more (damage) then roll 1 green die. Each figure adjacent to that figure suffers 1 (damage) for each (damage) and 1 (strain) for each (surge). Droid characters are sunned. Cannot move after attacking. Defense: B Attack: YY

I don't know if the WoTC landspeeder is to scale or not. IA figures are roughly 1:57 scale. Yeah, I see someone said they are like 3 inches, which, as you said, is too small.

I didn't see the Hero campaign cards. I'm digging the new maps. If Bossk is priced correctly, some serious errata needs to be done to a few uniques in this game.

It seems very unlikely, but I would love to get some of the more exotic looking locations for terrain like Ilum or Felucia. I agree with this. Dagobah isn't going to look any different from Yavin IV. If we had the Ewok village, that would be a little bit different, or maybe Kashyyyk, because you could have the impassible dotted lines all over for the bridges and platforms, which would make for interesting combat. Plus Kashyyyk would have the Shadowlands, which could give us a new beast.

I agree with this. The logical course of action for the heroes would be as Leia's agents to find where Boba is hiding Han and when he intends to deliver him to Jabba. There is actually a great deal that can be done if you have the legendary Bounty Hunter fight of the EU that is not necessarily canon, but also not necessarily not canon. That would make for a heck of an opportunity to bring Zuckuss and 4-LOM into it, two of my favorite characters. It would even be a chance to bring Boba back into, though he couldn't be "killed" in the mission. Yes, either way Boba gets Han to Jabba, but the heroes can get some XP and gear by making it harder. This could involve little known places like Ord Mantel also. I think as someone else said. The most logical thing for a big box ROTJ expansion would be a campaign that leads up to Leia and Chewbacca going to Jabba's palace. Possibly, including, helping Lando get situated as an inside agent by capturing whomever he was impersonating. Somehow Boushh has to be taken out of the picture as well.

So is this going to be Tatooine, or yet another more different desert planet from the other two?

Wouldn't it be nice to have something different? Yes, Luke was changed to be Darth Vader's son in Ep V and then Leia was added into the mix in Ep VI (a dumb decision), but Vader never ran the empire, and Luke wasn't related to the Emperor. Luke was succeeding Yoda in starting a new Jedi order. I'm certainly not saying they had to follow the Thrawn trilogy, but they could have gone in a different direction and had the hero NOT related to anyone. Like, maybe, hmmmm, Kyle Katarn? Oh, I forgot, it all about making a statement. Kara Katarn, then she could have the same name as that other gender-bender science fiction character that was an utter abomination.

Yes. But I mean the description of her in the books. He is right, she was dressed my like Sarah Conner in T2 than the outfit she is known for.

Fair enough. We've both given our opinions. I'm ready to go back to IA talk.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing. I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards. You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad. Lets be honest, if Hollywood did Mara Jade they would've ruined her. Let's be honest, there's not much to ruin. Outside of the concept of being a chick with Force powers, she has about as much character and personality as a piece of plywood. She's the token female, invented just to give Luke a love interest, because him not having a partner to care for would have made for a poor role model, and was made a badass chick with a laser sword to pull double duty as a pieco of shameless fanpandering for an adolescent male audience since Leia got too pregnant to wear that golden bikini oops, I mean, an empowered independent woman. Yes, Mara Jade is a token, but Rey, she's a well rounded character. C'mon, man. Mara Jade has a pretty decent backstory as Star Wars goes. Are you sure you're not just mad that you can't prove misogyny for for the hatred of Rey because Star Wars fans long ago accepted strong female characters?

Just saying: Natasha Romanov predates Star Wars in its entirety, let alone Mara Jade. You are correct. I apologize for that.

It is criminal that Lucas' wife decided to cut the Biggs conversation with Luke on Tatooine. I agree it isn't necessary in the scope of the original film, but would be well served to demonstrate that Luke was an experience pilot, respected by Biggs, and Biggs was prepping him to join the Rebellion. Luke came back to his blue milk to plead with Uncle Owen to go to the academy this year because of his renewed interest, sparked by Biggs. So yes, it appears that Luke starts flying as a complete novice. Another scene that was cut, but at least was re-added was Biggs defending Luke to his commander. At least it attempts to give a reason for Luke being in the ship. Also Obi Wan said 'I hear you've become quite a good pilot yourself.' So, long story short: Luke and Rey are young people stuck on their respective desert planets. We don't know much about either's past, only that they seem not to get much excitement. We are told in ANH that Luke is a great pilot. We are shown in TFA that Rey is a great pilot. I know which one of those I personally consider better storytelling, but I'll let everyone judge for themselves. Yes it's right up there with Lil'Annie getting into the Naboo fighter and blowing up the Trade federation ship. The only difference, because hes a boy, people say, "that was really stupid and suspension of disbelief shattering." Where as with Rey, because she's a girl, they say, Awwwww, what a great pilot. Girlz rule. Let me add, back in Star Wars days, it costs a crap ton of money to do models and effects. Now CGI is far less expensive, and get the kind of overuse we see in many movies, including TFA.

Have you met the Skywalker family? I like that a majority of people's complaints about the new movie are ones that could apply to the originals in the exact same way. I guess if you don't listen to any of the many reasons why they're nothing alike, sure. Luke was a hero that came to the show with a particular skill set, received training, still lost and still needed rescuing. Rey had never seen a force power, never shot a gun, never flew a ship, never swung a light saber, but did all of that better than experts and (of course) rescued herself. TFA was like watching a cartoon made for little children, that is exactly how most of them deal with heroes. The hero will be a child who tries hard and is better than everyone else at everything because they're the hero and because children can of course beat expert adults because that is what the children watching the show want to believe. Rey was like the kid from Home Alone, only no one was laughing. Luke came to the show with a particular skill set... Yes, he could fly a T-16(?) and was probably a decent farmer. X-Wings, which fly in SPACE, are not T-16's. That's like saying you could fly an F-22 in combat because you were good at flying a Cessna. We know nothing of his preparation for using Imperial weapons against Storm Troopers. We know he blocked a laser with the light saber on his second try. We know he was a fantastic gunner on the Falcon's turrets his first time in combat. Luke does a lot of stuff really well for a kid straight off of the farm because... Well, reasons. Don't even get me started on Annakin... I think it's highly likely Rey has had a LOT more training than either one of them by the time we met her, but she doesn't remember the training itself (just the "muscle memory" so to speak). If she hasn't and she's just as inexperienced as them... I still haven't seen her do much that's outside the realm of the other two. Maybe you just don't like it when girls are good at stuff? Ah yes it all comes out. YOu just hate it because it's a giiiiirl. The easy deflection when there is no defense. No I hate it because it was stupid. Because you are asked to assume things that are never shown. It's horrible writing. And Rey is just the tip of the I hate TFA iceberg. I also hated Kylo Ren. The Starkiller base was the worst kind of 'mine is bigger than yours'. I hate it because it was a reboot of the first movie with none of the first movie's magic. Its not about her being a female. I loved Sarah Conner, Ellen Ripley, Zoe Washburn. These were good female characters. As much as I hate Rebels, Hera is the only good character, I liked Padme's portrayal in the Clone Wars cartoon, as well as the short time we got Aayla Secura, who is one of my favorite Jedi. And I have a 18" statue of Sideshow Collectibles' Darth Talon in a curio cabinet in my living room.

Han and Luke actually have an equal number of kills on the Death Star. Han killed two at Mos Eisley. Luke saves Biggs in the beginning of the space battle. Then Wedge saves Luke, then Han saves Luke after Biggs dies a fiery death being blown apart by Vader who achieved one mission Ace with 6 kills in the space battle. It is criminal that Lucas' wife decided to cut the Biggs conversation with Luke on Tatooine. I agree it isn't necessary in the scope of the original film, but would be well served to demonstrate that Luke was an experience pilot, respected by Biggs, and Biggs was prepping him to join the Rebellion. Luke came back to his blue milk to plead with Uncle Owen to go to the academy this year because of his renewed interest, sparked by Biggs. So yes, it appears that Luke starts flying as a complete novice. Another scene that was cut, but at least was re-added was Biggs defending Luke to his commander. At least it attempts to give a reason for Luke being in the ship. Also Obi Wan said 'I hear you've become quite a good pilot yourself.' As far as Rey goes, I grew up next to an Air Force base. My two best friends fathers were both pilots. I wore one of their helmets to school for Halloween. Did that qualify me to jump into an F-15 and fly it like Maverick? Given that she was a scavenger of an ancient ship graveyard, I'd say it was a good bet there were plenty of helmets laying around. Luke didn't know what the force was, at all, when he first grabbed his lightsaber on Hoth? HOw could that be since Obi Wan explained it to him on the Millennium Falcon. When Obi Wan coaxes him through the force to turn off his targeting computer, to let go, probably aiding Luke, as he had foreshadowed to Vader that he would become more powerful than he could possibly imagine. Yet for all that, and for whatever he may have uncovered with his new found Rebel contacts in the two years between the films, and whatever practice he may have conducted on his own; being that he in a life or death situation, Luke still struggled to get his ligthsaber out of the snow. Where as Rey just whips that thing right out the snow pulling it away from Ren, who was also pulling it. Luke spent weeks with Yoda building up his force connection, including his failure at the cave, and still Yoda didn't want him to face Vader. The only reason he is alive, as I said earlier, was because Vader wanted to capture him, so he carried him through the fight.

Umm, I do. I happen to have an unashamed appreciation for redheads with laser swords wearing tight outfits. Just a specific thing I like, regardless of my indifference towards the rest of the old EU and even the fact that the specific character was boring as all hell and dumb as a chair once you got into the actual material (which was true for pretty much 99% of the old EU protagonists, the entire Mary Sue lot of them). I'm sure everyone has at least one thing that they appreciate in the old stuff, no matter how they feel about the entire thing. I have accepted that will probably never happen in IA, though, and moved on. I'd like to see everone do so as well, since that would help cut a lot of the more or less pointless Legends-Disney bickering that goes on these boards. You know what is funny, in a sad way. The only EU figure to break the Top 20 in action figures sales was Mara Jade from Shadows of the Empire. She regularly sold toys and merchandise, before the idea of forced feminism entered the picture, which is why she shows up so often. She was Black Widow before there was Black Widow. I would like to say "If Disney were smart" they would have taken a property that already had a proven record of sales without being featured in any film or cartoon (that I can think of) and capitalized on it. Let me add here that I've been collecting cool Star Wars action figures here and there since i was a teenager. They are all mint in a couple rubber maid bins in my basement. The TFA toys are abysmal. Some of the worst toys I've seen from Star Wars in a while. Mara Jade was tailor as the female icon they needed, but instead, they chose to invent Rey. Sad.

To that point, neither does using the Force. Simply put, what makes you a Jedi is getting inducted into the Jedi Order by another member. Same with Sith. This is what enables you to have a bunch of Force Users on both sides despite the official line being "Luke is the last Jedi" and "The Rule of Two is in effect". It's a bit of a cop out wrapped in creative book keeping with a side of rules lawyering, but that's how it works now in the franchise (and in fact was the same with the old EU, there was just a bit less Force Users running around in the more mainstream Rebellion Era material, because unlike now, Rebellion Era wasn't the focus) which is why any complaints along the lines "Diala can't be a Jedi because Luke is the last Jedi and that offends me" or "Inquisitors are dumb because only Palpatine and Vader were Sith" are in fact moot. Inquisitors are dumb because they crap all over the lore. If yo don't have some basic rules about the universe then what's the point? Han Solo said he didn't believe in the Force, yet if you look at Chewbacca, who keeps showing up, he's had more contact with Jedi than Luke ever had, once you include ROTS, The Clone Wars, and Rebels. The word Sith only appears once in the Star Wars novelization. It is never uttered onscreen. It is expanded on in the EU and then Lucas takes the expanded data and caters it to the Phantom Menace, the first time the term is heard in official canon. So despite tons of Inquisitors and Jedi running around just before TBY, Tarkin, who is shown completely involved in the affair sates to Vader in Star Wars, rather flippantly, "The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion." This is after Vader says "...a tremor in the force. The last time i felt it was in the presence of my old master." For the longest time this, and Obi Wan's comments were respected by novels, comics, and games who did their level best to limit Jedi until after Luke started the new Jedi academy, or to keep it 4000 years in the past. Then along comes Rebels. No longer taking place in the Clone Wars time period, but now taking place just a few years before ANH, is peppering the galaxy with good and bad force users that Darth Vader and Tarkin are fully aware of.

Star Trek discussion on a Star Wars board feels like gross offtopic, but I think you might have seen a different version of the reboot than was shown in cinemas. He never got command of the ship right of school. I'm not even sure he ever finished school. What I distinctly remember is him stowaway in the ship and go pester the captain, who then gave him a kick because he was fed up with his antics. He only assumed command when the captain was out and apparently there wasn't anyone else to pick up the job, which I admit was slightly deus ex machina, but it was kinda sorta needed for you know, the movie to happen. I liked what they did with Kirk in the reboot, and it was necessary to shake the character up a bit, similar to Spock. The original characters were too one-dimensional to fit into modern cinema, because times and storytelling conventions change over the decades. Besides, it's not like TOS Kirk wasn't a self-centred ****** that couldn't recognize authority. He basically spent most of his time flying around and showing Starfleet where they can stick that Prime Directive of theirs. Star Trek is off topic, but we are discussing JJ Abrams. It wasn't really Deus ex, it was just silly. As a person who retired from U.S. Navy after 20 years, let me tell you the people who procede taking over the ship prior to a Mid-shipman. Every officer and enlisted man. In the immediate chain of command you have the XO (executive offficer) Then the operations officer, chief engineer, then any other department head based on seniority, then every division officer based on seniority. I could go on. Rather than have Kirk be an hard charging up and coming officer, they had him be a punk and a caricature of a Kirk that really never existed in TOS. When you say TOS Kirk was self-centered ****** that couldn't recognize authority, you are completely wrong. That isn't the Kirk of the TOS, that is the cartoon caricature built around him. Most of Kirk's decisions to violate the Prime Directive, or any Star Fleet directive, were based on consultation with Bones and Spock at a minimum, and often Sulu and Scotty as well. They were contemplative decisions where logic and prudence trumped bureaucracy. In some cases his violation was because he was dealing with a corrupt Star Fleet official who was trying to hijack his vessel. Whenever there was danger to Kirk's crew he put himself out for sacrifice before them. He regularly tried to get his subordinates to safety before himself.