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I know things got a little patchy around here towards the end, but just wanted to give a personal thanks to everyone for contributing to real discussion and such. It's hard to achieve, especially mostly anonymously over the internet on something like an official forum. I assume this forum/board will be shut down... soonish, the end is nigh, etc. Anyways, thanks for being great!

I don't think it's the developer's fault - it's the ship everyone playing the game wants. what?

Sad - the eta2 is the ship I wanted the most in xwing, and now that it's released it's everything about the game I hate the most. Neat?

Yeah, from the sounds of things, this is not a unique experience just for Alex. Rough week for a lot of very great people that did a lot of stuff for us. If for whatever godforsaken reason you're reading this, everyone who put up with our nonsense at FFG - you know who you are, we appreciate you more than you'll probably ever know. Thanks for the good times.

Seriously. Also, good to hear from you Chris, hope everything is going as well with you ♥

Also I don't really understand what's going on. I don't know why you're so upset at me not while I'm not making any interesting claims, but I'm pretty checked out on the game in general at the moment as it's impossible to play, and care a lot more about the people I respect and like a lot getting screwed over by FFG than I do whatever the flavor of the month fight is in here. Apparently it's over whether or not whatever tournaments there have been recently matter? I don't care about whatever it is we're all fighting about at the moment.

Err, yeah, I think there's some miscommunication here. Since we had a points change, there's been two(it might be one, just coruscant?) tournaments that have data. There wasn't much data for the nantex period so I don't think there a big lessons to learn there, but trying to use that season's data for the post emergency change meta isn't really relevant, as any meta is a chaotic system. It could be that, for example, republic was only trash because Nantexes destroyed them, and now they're the apex predator. That's probably unlikely, but we don't have information either way. To be more clear - online/covid season had little to no data (it's not that it's low quality, it's just that there isn't really enough) that ranges from hard to impossible to draw conclusions from, while post nantex change is actually zero data. I would be uncomfortable trying to draw conclusions from covid stuff, but would refuse to draw conclusions from post-nerf nantex stuff

Oh. Yeah, from what I've gathered from a few public postings, pretty much everyone we (the community in general) interacts with was gutted. Quite a few of the developers too. I don't really want to go into details since it's people's personal lives, but yes, lots of people looking for new jobs

Response to all three - yeah, it's really unfortunate that there's no real data for the past... almost 10 months now, sadly. Obviously the cause of that no data is even more sad, but not being able to look at results meaningfully (and in fact having to explicitly try and convince people data is currently not valuable is... jarring. Like here for example, is republic bad? I certainly can't meaningfully contribute, we have one or two events with current points, and on top of that most of those lists were presumably all constructed before the points change, so even that meta is a bizarro once off meta. They might be bad, they might be great, but no matter how much we pour through these couple tournaments, we aren't going to find anything meaningful I'm not sure if this is a joke or not or actually just not informed, but... yeah. I'm very upset at the way FFG/Asmodee treated their staff through this, but I also know they don't care because we aren't their customers anymore anyways. It's infuriating.

Oh, interesting! Apparently there are a non-zero number of people who prefer having the options for generics. I wonder what the breakdown is of (non-tournament) players who ever include any generic pilot in their list vs always using named pilots. Obviously I don't have any insight into it, other than assuming it's very low.

no Sure, but the people that are into ONLY the raw positioning aspect of the game seem to be the extreme minority.

Would you have preferred playing Lulo + 4 different named low initiative As with different abilities, though? I was late night posting so the core point got missed (by me), but the attempt was that named pilots are basically just cooler than generics, and in an ideal world we'd just have more named pilots.

Hottest take: just ban generics. Even with things like TIE Swarms people just want to play the named pilots. That's fine! I think I agree - no one wants to play AS Obsidian Squadron Pilot. Save them for the solo player or co-op vs AI that's in alpha or whatever.

I know a lot of you had really strong feelings about nantexes, sending :care: reacts your way. Hope this helps you enjoy the game more! (And all of us, once the plague ends)

I just want to say thank you for being honest about low sample sizes, even when the little data you have is begging you to believe it because you want it to be true.

also you guys are just making the "print this thread out as a book with a real binding" challenge way harder, the poor person who has to figure out how to fit that onto a page...

... Though I have to say this game (and the following one) was way funnier

Haha yeah, we sniped a few streamers to see if we could get some harder haha. The Stache guys were definitely the best team, was glad to see them win despite us wasting 20 of their minutes.

So if you haven't played squadrons yet I uhh, recommend you do. Playing with 4 other friends for fleet battles is up there with the best games I've ever played in my life.

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