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    Kaigen got a reaction from TheSapient in Force Dice to Skills   
    If none of the other characters have invested in specializing in certain skill checks and the Jedi has dropped XP to being able to use the Force on those checks (which seems to be the scenario we're talking about here), then I don't see a problem, any more than there's a problem with people sighing and saying "I guess we should have the 6 INT droid do it" whenever a Knowledge/Computers/etc. check comes up. RPG characters specialize in different niches, and things only become problematic when someone crowds someone else out of their own niche.
    FWIW, I will say that skill ranks (especially beyond the first two or three) often feel over-costed in this system relative to the benefit you get, and so in that context, being able to add roll Force Dice on a check for a relatively small XP investment can feel like a very good bargain compared to the alternative. On the other hand, it still takes a lot of XP to increase your Force Rating further, so if Characteristic + current FR isn't cutting it, the Force user is still looking at a considerable investment to get better.
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    Kaigen reacted to Vondy in Warriors rejoice   
    Wait a minute?! Are you suggesting fictional characters in stories have subjective points of view and may be unreliable narrators? Oh dear!
    The literary theory is strong with this one... 
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    Kaigen reacted to Darth Revenant in Force Dice to Skills   
    The Jedi needs to have started with a force rating then and filled up 4 trees with force rating stats in them to get to force rating 5. Or taken two trees with two force ratings in them, which means no dedication on those two. Otherwise they're not likely to have a force rating of 5. A colossus character could do it early by having 4 untreated crits on them, but then they have 4 untreated crits which is pretty **** bad.
     
    At 4 filled trees a EotE or AoR character is going to be pretty impressive as well. Not able to influence weak minds with mystical force impressive, but very impressive at what they have specialized in being good at.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Vestij Jai Galaar in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen reacted to Donovan Morningfire in In RotJ, why didn't vader let Luke strike down the emperor?   
    The real reason Vader didn't let Luke just kill the Emperor right then and there?
    It quite simply wouldn't have been dramatic enough.
    Heck, you could say that Vader doesn't actually rescue his son because he experiences a sudden and powerful call to the light.
    Instead, throwing out the allegiances he's held for the past two decades at the absolute last moment and sacrificing his life to save his son by destroying his evil wizard master in a storm of lightning and blue flame has to be the most dramatic thing he could have possibly done in that situation.
    After all, this is the same guy shut off his life support and held his breath for minutes just to scare the crap out of a bunch of Rebel troop in Rogue One, who made his appearance on Malachor by floating down using his TIE Advanced as a chariot/platform, who earlier that same season used his ship to single-handedly decimate a Rebel fighter squadron.  His time in the Clone Wars as Anakin is littered with instances of him being dramatic for the sake of drama.
    If there's any one thing that's truly left of Anakin Skywalker in the cold, armored shell that is Darth Vader, it's his near-instinctual drive to do the most dramatic thing possible ?
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Ogrebear in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Shaheed the Gand in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from TheShard in Unrelenting Skeptic makes lying impossible?   
    Acknowledging that everyone's own experience is anecdotal and different customs work better at different tables, I find that putting the onus on the player to declare when they are suspicious of what an NPC is saying encourages a paranoid mindset and an antagonistic stance. It can also be disruptive when players feel the need to call out "I roll Discipline to see if he's lying" every few minutes. I would rather come to an agreement with my players that if they're willing to trust me to roll Deception unprompted when an NPC is trying to slip something past them, I'm willing to trust them not to metagame an open Deception roll.
    That way, when a truthful NPC is trying to convince a skeptical PC, I can simply roll Charm/Negotiation vs. their Cool or Coercion/Leadership vs. their Discipline, which better models the skills that each character is bringing to the interaction. An undisciplined character shouldn't be harder to sway than a disciplined one, simply because the NPC happens to be telling the truth, and an NPC with a Charm pool of AAAPP shouldn't be less convincing than one with PPP.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Sturn in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from GroggyGolem in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Stan Fresh in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Archlyte in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from panpolyqueergeek in Why did Obi Wan say this?   
    That sounds like "If droids could do our job, they wouldn't need us," i.e. talking about automation replacing people. Still definitely includes the assumption that droids aren't sapient, though.
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    Kaigen reacted to HappyDaze in Unrelenting Skeptic makes lying impossible?   
    And you absolutely should not. Just as a single roll of Ranged (Light) can represent several shots from a blaster pistol all with the same intent (blast 'em!), one roll of Deception can be more than one lie; in fact, it is one overall attempt, simple or complex, to use subterfuge to get a desired reaction.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from ThreeAM in Unrelenting Skeptic makes lying impossible?   
    Acknowledging that everyone's own experience is anecdotal and different customs work better at different tables, I find that putting the onus on the player to declare when they are suspicious of what an NPC is saying encourages a paranoid mindset and an antagonistic stance. It can also be disruptive when players feel the need to call out "I roll Discipline to see if he's lying" every few minutes. I would rather come to an agreement with my players that if they're willing to trust me to roll Deception unprompted when an NPC is trying to slip something past them, I'm willing to trust them not to metagame an open Deception roll.
    That way, when a truthful NPC is trying to convince a skeptical PC, I can simply roll Charm/Negotiation vs. their Cool or Coercion/Leadership vs. their Discipline, which better models the skills that each character is bringing to the interaction. An undisciplined character shouldn't be harder to sway than a disciplined one, simply because the NPC happens to be telling the truth, and an NPC with a Charm pool of AAAPP shouldn't be less convincing than one with PPP.
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    Kaigen reacted to HappyDaze in Unrelenting Skeptic makes lying impossible?   
    Deception should only be rolled when you're trying to use some form of subterfuge to actually get the target to do something. This is why it's resisted with Discipline.  There is no roll of Discipline against true statements that gives weird contradictions,  and a failure on the Deception check doesn't mean they know you're lying,  only that they are not persuaded by you. Despairs and/ or Threats can indicate bits of the truth slipping through (or simply your target already knowing or piecing together contradictory information).
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    Kaigen got a reaction from DaverWattra in Unrelenting Skeptic makes lying impossible?   
    Here's the problem with this idea in the current context. If your response to a powerful talent that triggers when you roll against a PC is to make it useless by always having the PC roll, the response you get from the player is likely to be frustration that they spent 20 XP on a talent that never gets used, as opposed to "more buy-in."
    Now, people have made the argument that talents like Unrelenting Skeptic can be reversed to function when the player rolls instead (I don't think that's a good fit for all of the social defense talents, but if it works anywhere, it's likely to work with a talent like Unrelenting Skeptic). If you do that, though, you're back to square one, because now the player is adding a bunch of automatic successes to every check they make to uncover Deception. They're still extremely likely to see through any attempt at a lie, even moreso, since the dice in this game favor the active roller, so you haven't actually addressed the OP's problem.
    So whatever the merits of the "always have the player roll" philosophy, it's not something that's useful in this context.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Edgehawk in Anyone have Homebrew stats for the Ardennian race from Solo?   
    If I had a player who wanted to play that species, I'd probably just reskin the Xexto from Stay on Target. It seems like a close enough match, since the one member of the species we've seen is a pilot.
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    Kaigen reacted to panpolyqueergeek in Ideas for Unique Slicing Gear   
    Sounds awful cispicious
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    Kaigen got a reaction from OriginalDomingo in Lets talk Coercion!   
    Another thing to remember about Coercion is that it's not just limited to physical threats, but can encompass a variety of negative consequences that you promise to inflict if the target doesn't do what you want. In this way, it's the mirror image of Negotiation: Negotiation involves offering them something they want to get what you want, Coercion involves promising to do something they don't want to get what you want.
    Telling someone to approve your request or you'll bury them in so much red tape they can't go to the refresher without a form signed in triplicate? Coercion.
    Threatening to tell everyone that a shop sells subpar goods unless you get a discount? Coercion.
    It's not just "I'll beat your face in." It's also "I want to talk to your manager."
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Vek Baustrade in Lets talk Coercion!   
    Another thing to remember about Coercion is that it's not just limited to physical threats, but can encompass a variety of negative consequences that you promise to inflict if the target doesn't do what you want. In this way, it's the mirror image of Negotiation: Negotiation involves offering them something they want to get what you want, Coercion involves promising to do something they don't want to get what you want.
    Telling someone to approve your request or you'll bury them in so much red tape they can't go to the refresher without a form signed in triplicate? Coercion.
    Threatening to tell everyone that a shop sells subpar goods unless you get a discount? Coercion.
    It's not just "I'll beat your face in." It's also "I want to talk to your manager."
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    Kaigen got a reaction from SavageBob in Anyone have Homebrew stats for the Ardennian race from Solo?   
    If I had a player who wanted to play that species, I'd probably just reskin the Xexto from Stay on Target. It seems like a close enough match, since the one member of the species we've seen is a pilot.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from kaosoe in Anyone have Homebrew stats for the Ardennian race from Solo?   
    If I had a player who wanted to play that species, I'd probably just reskin the Xexto from Stay on Target. It seems like a close enough match, since the one member of the species we've seen is a pilot.
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    Kaigen got a reaction from SavageBob in Lets talk Coercion!   
    Another thing to remember about Coercion is that it's not just limited to physical threats, but can encompass a variety of negative consequences that you promise to inflict if the target doesn't do what you want. In this way, it's the mirror image of Negotiation: Negotiation involves offering them something they want to get what you want, Coercion involves promising to do something they don't want to get what you want.
    Telling someone to approve your request or you'll bury them in so much red tape they can't go to the refresher without a form signed in triplicate? Coercion.
    Threatening to tell everyone that a shop sells subpar goods unless you get a discount? Coercion.
    It's not just "I'll beat your face in." It's also "I want to talk to your manager."
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    Kaigen got a reaction from Mark Caliber in Lets talk Coercion!   
    Another thing to remember about Coercion is that it's not just limited to physical threats, but can encompass a variety of negative consequences that you promise to inflict if the target doesn't do what you want. In this way, it's the mirror image of Negotiation: Negotiation involves offering them something they want to get what you want, Coercion involves promising to do something they don't want to get what you want.
    Telling someone to approve your request or you'll bury them in so much red tape they can't go to the refresher without a form signed in triplicate? Coercion.
    Threatening to tell everyone that a shop sells subpar goods unless you get a discount? Coercion.
    It's not just "I'll beat your face in." It's also "I want to talk to your manager."
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